On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

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If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

On 11/25/2014 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:37:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.

He is very close to vested in his pension... I think within a year or
so... Bet "the media" didn't mention that but of course why would they,
it doesn't fit the "news" they are making up.

I imagine he could disappear in a big city department if he wanted to
but he may be done with the cop biz for personal reasons.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

Very likely, the real question is whether sovereign immunity will
shield him from a civil action.


Well, unless somebody else does it I may have to start a go fund me for
the guy like I did my bud after Sandy. I think it would be nice if it
went viral and the guy ended up with a couple million to disappear with...

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:37:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.


I imagine he could disappear in a big city department if he wanted to
but he may be done with the cop biz for personal reasons.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

Very likely, the real question is whether sovereign immunity will
shield him from a civil action.

It would be interesting if Wilson counter sued the family and the people
putting up,the money, for raising a thug who put Wilson in th hospital.
That video of the strong arm robbery shortly before will be introduced in a
civil trial.

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Your liberal arts education failed you, this is America and we don't
just put folks on trial to appease animals... the Grand Jury did it's
job, get over it...

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If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

I think the city would still be on the hook for defense costs. He was an
employee at the time.

On 11/25/2014 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:24:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Usually the union would force them to keep him on the payroll until he
was actually convicted, not just charged.

Harry's lib arts degree failed him, he doesn't know how the crim justice
system works...

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

In the grand scheme of police shootings, this is as justifiable as any
I have seen. Most just involve a cop who shot a guy for a "furtive
move" or a shiny object.
Like Zimmerman, they may have had a valid beef with the process but
they hitched the wagon to the wrong horse. This was not the case they
should have pursued.
When you start with a guy who is walking away from a strong arm
robbery, then he assaults an officer (neither in dispute) it is not
the most sympathetic victim when that officer shoots him.


Unless he's black and useless...