On 11/25/2014 6:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.


I didn't see anything wrong with the "due process."
The DA saw no reason to prosecute, so he gave it to a grand jury.
THEY saw no reason to prosecute. There were 3-4 blacks on that jury and
they came to a unanimous decision.
If the Feds see a reason to prosecute, so be it.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

On 11/25/2014 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


Listen... here's my tin hat math. Sharpton and the parents got in with
the Communist Party, New Black Panther Pussies, and a Hamas party rep
who glorifies cop killing on his FB page... This of course is part of an
ongoing theme from kallege to govt provided child care to make sure cops
second guess themselves before they shoot, with the intent of allowing
more cops to be injured or killed... They brought in their own
terrorists last week to teach grade school kids how to protest and
incite litigation. This is what Ferguson wanted, and they got it... I
wish however they would just go back to sniping looters, that would slow
them down a lot...

On 11/25/2014 6:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.


I didn't see anything wrong with the "due process."
The DA saw no reason to prosecute, so he gave it to a grand jury.
THEY saw no reason to prosecute. There were 3-4 blacks on that jury and
they came to a unanimous decision.
If the Feds see a reason to prosecute, so be it.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.


He has about as much class and credibility as those who watch msnbc...

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:36:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

===

At least he's trying to pay them off.

On 11/25/2014 7:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:36:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

===

At least he's trying to pay them off.


From what I heard, he isn't.. but he isn't being prosecuted because
indeed, there is a double standard in the US Justice System, if you are
black you get a break...

On 11/25/2014 8:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:24:13 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I thought the schools were closed anyway.

Wednesday to Sunday for Thanksgiving. They were open today.


This is getting comical. Now the family and the news agencies are asking
why they did it at night, as if it matters anyway. All they wanted for
for honest citizens to get caught up in with the wild dogs so they could
kill a few innocents for the cameras...

On 11/25/2014 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:37:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.

He is very close to vested in his pension... I think within a year or
so... Bet "the media" didn't mention that but of course why would they,
it doesn't fit the "news" they are making up.

I imagine he could disappear in a big city department if he wanted to
but he may be done with the cop biz for personal reasons.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

Very likely, the real question is whether sovereign immunity will
shield him from a civil action.


Well, unless somebody else does it I may have to start a go fund me for
the guy like I did my bud after Sandy. I think it would be nice if it
went viral and the guy ended up with a couple million to disappear with...

On 11/25/2014 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:24:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Usually the union would force them to keep him on the payroll until he
was actually convicted, not just charged.

Harry's lib arts degree failed him, he doesn't know how the crim justice
system works...

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

In the grand scheme of police shootings, this is as justifiable as any
I have seen. Most just involve a cop who shot a guy for a "furtive
move" or a shiny object.
Like Zimmerman, they may have had a valid beef with the process but
they hitched the wagon to the wrong horse. This was not the case they
should have pursued.
When you start with a guy who is walking away from a strong arm
robbery, then he assaults an officer (neither in dispute) it is not
the most sympathetic victim when that officer shoots him.


Unless he's black and useless...

On 11/25/2014 9:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.



Neither was the Mormon Tabernacle Choir but like the Nat Guard, they
were not needed or useful there with their strategdy, they are not
police.. Even tonight, they are there for logistics, and traffic
control, the Police take care of the crims.... it had nothing to do with
black or white, unless of course someone is looking to make things
racial...

Nixon was taking heat for calling them up at all. I am not surprised
he kept them away from the protests.

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:10:59 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


And of course, both the cops and the national guard have experience
shooting unarmed civilians.

And of course, you have experience shooting off your mouth with no intellectual content.