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On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


Given the choice between BAR and the CIA, I'd stick with BAR -
especially since so many of the various media tend to agree with him.
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On Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:17:14 AM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/22/14 10:08 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:27:20 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

Good. They investigated and cleared those being investigated. That's
the way the system is supposed to work, Toad.

The Grand Jury in Ferguson will soon provide its findings. That's the
way the system is supposed to work. Zimmerman was found not guilty.
That's the way the system works.

Why does that **** you off, Toad?



I have virtually no confidence in the American legal system as it
pertains to and treats minorities. Zimmerman was and is a thug.



OJ was a minority thug as well. He walked. Cochran was a minority racist who pulled the race card. He won.

Think of a better line Krause.
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:59:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/23/14 3:24 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


Given the choice between BAR and the CIA, I'd stick with BAR -
especially since so many of the various media tend to agree with him.


Indeed, the media sure has reported Darryl Issa's never-ended, dead-end
inquiries and of course, BAR is a degreed, credentialed and nationally
recognized expert in diplomacy and gun running. Oh, wait...


He's not a liar. That puts him way above you, Toad.
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:18:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/23/14 5:16 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:59:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/23/14 3:24 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


Given the choice between BAR and the CIA, I'd stick with BAR -
especially since so many of the various media tend to agree with him.


Indeed, the media sure has reported Darryl Issa's never-ended, dead-end
inquiries and of course, BAR is a degreed, credentialed and nationally
recognized expert in diplomacy and gun running. Oh, wait...


He's not a liar. That puts him way above you, Toad.



*snerk*

BAR's even more of an outspoken racist than you are, and he's a John
Bircher.


That can be true only if Luddite chimes in with 'it's ingrained' or
some such.

Like I said, he's not a liar, which puts him way above you, Toad.


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On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Actually, it was missiles, but it's all the same... Fortunately for our
CIA and others repubs put security and patriotism above personal
vendettas.. if this was a repub president the libs could get a bit of
political gain, they would be singing it far and wide, outing the agents
and process just in time for the next election....
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On 11/23/2014 2:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence
failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in
Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the
attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador
Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.



We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?







Charles Krauthhammer(sp?) and several other respectable journalists but
it was missiles not guns...
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On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464


Hey John, the CIA denied it! You would think they would be happy to open
their books to AlQueda and the rest of the world on exactly this
operation ran, and who ran it... but for some strange reason, they say
they weren't involved.. Imagine that, the CIA working under cover, damn
them.... lol...
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On 11/23/2014 3:24 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated, investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S. personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks, the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


Given the choice between BAR and the CIA, I'd stick with BAR -
especially since so many of the various media tend to agree with him.


I suppose luddite thinks is was a spontaneous action because of a video
they had never ever seen or even heard of till the day after the
attack... lol! Hey, that's what Hillary said, in fact she doesn't even
think it's worth looking into....
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On 11/23/2014 5:47 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/23/2014 3:24 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 3:05 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:28:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/23/2014 2:17 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 11/22/2014 9:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
You know, that non-scandal the GOPers investigated,
investigated, and
investigated, and our own little PsychoScotty pushed...

Well, the GOP now admits, in writing, there was nothing of a
serious
nature to be found there. Nothing.

The House Select Intelligence Committee?controlled by
Republicans?has
been investigating the Benghazi attacks in minute detail for two
years.
Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their
findings. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and
nearly
absolute.

The Committee first concludes that the CIA ensured
sufficient
security for CIA facilities in Benghazi....Appropriate U.S.
personnel
made reasonable tactical decisions that night, and the Committee
found
no evidence that there was either a stand down order or a denial of
available air support....

Second, the Committee finds that there was no
intelligence failure
prior to the attacks. In the months prior, the IC provided
intelligence
about previous attacks and the increased threat environment in
Benghazi,
but the IC did not have specific, tactical warning of the
September 11
attacks.

Third, the Committee finds that a mixed group of
individuals,
including those affiliated with Al Qa'ida, participated in the
attacks....

Fourth, the Committee concludes that after the attacks,
the early
intelligence assessments and the Administration's initial public
narrative on the causes and motivations for the attacks were not
fully
accurate....There was no protest. The CIA only changed its initial
assessment about a protest on September 24, 2012, when closed
caption
television footage became available on September 18, 2012 (two days
after Ambassador Susan Rice spoke)....

Fifth, the Committee finds that the process used to
generate the
talking points HPSCI asked for?and which were used for
Ambassador Rice's
public appearances?was flawed....

Finally, the Committee found no evidence that any
officer was
intimidated, wrongly forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement or
otherwise kept from speaking to Congress, or polygraphed because of
their presence in Benghazi. The Committee also found no evidence
that
the CIA conducted unauthorized activities in Benghazi and no
evidence
that the IC shipped arms to Syria.



I read that yesterday. Another thing that caught my attention is
that
the specific report you are citing is the seventh of eight
"investigations" conducted regarding the Benghazi affair.

This report, by the House Committee, is consistent with the six
previous investigations. One more investigation is being conducted
apparently.


We, the US, were invovled in "gun running" in Libya.


Do you know that to be a fact? The CIA denies it but said they "can't
comment on other agencies".

So if the CIA doesn't know for sure, where did you get your intel?

Or is your position that the CIA is just lying?




http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun...-syria/5345464



John, that's one of many media reports of allegations. None have been
proven. The CIA denies it.

I am not saying the allegations are not true and I am not saying the CIA
isn't lying. BAR made a unequivocal statement that "We, the US, were
involved in "gun running" in Libya".

I simply asked where he got that factual info since no one else or any
other agency seems to know.


Given the choice between BAR and the CIA, I'd stick with BAR -
especially since so many of the various media tend to agree with him.


I suppose luddite thinks is was a spontaneous action because of a video
they had never ever seen or even heard of till the day after the
attack... lol! Hey, that's what Hillary said, in fact she doesn't even
think it's worth looking into....



The recently released findings of the Republican led House Select
Intelligence Committee and the six independent investigations that
preceded it agree.




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