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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... |
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On 11/17/2014 12:50 PM, Tim wrote:
It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... Hey, guns and boats go together... I mean, how many murders were committed in the last decade in Chicago by guys on boats? Seems guys on boats are safer than other gun owners.. that's what the stats say anyway :) |
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On 11/17/2014 1:40 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... Scott, I am not "denigrating" anyone. You seem to think so but you tend to be paranoid about things sometimes. A debate means trying to prove your position. Trying to establish or expose flaws in the positions of your opponents is not denigrating people. |
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On 11/17/2014 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2014 1:40 PM, KC wrote: On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... Scott, I am not "denigrating" anyone. You seem to think so but you tend to be paranoid about things sometimes. A debate means trying to prove your position. Trying to establish or expose flaws in the positions of your opponents is not denigrating people. And a "discussion" means bringing your side to the table hopefully so you can come together with the "correct" logical outcome... The difference is in a discussion, you don't necessarily come in with per-concieved ideas. |
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On 11/17/2014 2:13 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/17/2014 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/17/2014 1:40 PM, KC wrote: On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... Scott, I am not "denigrating" anyone. You seem to think so but you tend to be paranoid about things sometimes. A debate means trying to prove your position. Trying to establish or expose flaws in the positions of your opponents is not denigrating people. And a "discussion" means bringing your side to the table hopefully so you can come together with the "correct" logical outcome... The difference is in a discussion, you don't necessarily come in with per-concieved ideas. Then you don't understand my position. I *did* come to the discussion table with a firm conviction on background checks and registration. It hasn't changed. I don't expect those who's position is cemented in the wording of the 2A to change either. |
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On 11/17/2014 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/17/2014 2:13 PM, KC wrote: On 11/17/2014 2:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/17/2014 1:40 PM, KC wrote: On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... Scott, I am not "denigrating" anyone. You seem to think so but you tend to be paranoid about things sometimes. A debate means trying to prove your position. Trying to establish or expose flaws in the positions of your opponents is not denigrating people. And a "discussion" means bringing your side to the table hopefully so you can come together with the "correct" logical outcome... The difference is in a discussion, you don't necessarily come in with per-concieved ideas. Then you don't understand my position. I *did* come to the discussion table with a firm conviction on background checks and registration. It hasn't changed. I don't expect those who's position is cemented in the wording of the 2A to change either. No, I understand completely. You are debating, I am discussing... not that that's a bad thing, just like to know where we all stand. |
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On 11/17/2014 11:50 AM, Tim wrote:
It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... Blasphemy! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... ...boats and guns go together! Only if you are a duck hunter ;-) Salt water just makes them rust. Stainless? |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... I could talk about getting out in my boat 3 or 4 times a week but that is not what people want to talk about. I can talk about the parts on order to fix the boat. Could even post a couple pics of the damage. |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:06:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/17/2014 1:40 PM, KC wrote: On 11/17/2014 12:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I guess some of my posts of the last two days served to stir the pot for a while. I'll shut up now and let the newsgroup go back to focusing on local weather reports. Well, we have no problem discussing guns, if you would just stop denigrating those who do not agree with you, but whatever... Scott, I am not "denigrating" anyone. You seem to think so but you tend to be paranoid about things sometimes. A debate means trying to prove your position. Trying to establish or expose flaws in the positions of your opponents is not denigrating people. Well, calling folks irresponsible, selfish, and a few others 'could' be considered 'denigrating'. |
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On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... ...boats and guns go together! Only if you are a duck hunter ;-) Salt water just makes them rust. Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. -- Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s pro-birth. |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:01:42 -0600, Califbill
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... I could talk about getting out in my boat 3 or 4 times a week but that is not what people want to talk about. I can talk about the parts on order to fix the boat. Could even post a couple pics of the damage. Do it. That'd be interesting. |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... ...boats and guns go together! Only if you are a duck hunter ;-) Salt water just makes them rust. Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. ....and eats 'em! |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:01:42 -0600, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... I could talk about getting out in my boat 3 or 4 times a week but that is not what people want to talk about. I can talk about the parts on order to fix the boat. Could even post a couple pics of the damage. Get a new 4 stroke outboard and get years of trouble free service out of it ;-) My neighbor just hung a shiny new Yamaha 150 on his 200 Aquasport. He will be rigging it this week. I think that is what Harry had on the old Yo Ho. My F70 is still chugging along, coming up on 700 hours since 1q12. The motor is great. And an outboard jet would not drive the boat up some of the Rapids I like to run. |
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On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... ...boats and guns go together! Only if you are a duck hunter ;-) Salt water just makes them rust. Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. And the ducks are here because non duck hunters would not put up money for saving the ducks. |
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On 11/17/2014 4:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related activities... ...boats and guns go together! Only if you are a duck hunter ;-) Salt water just makes them rust. Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. Is there something wrong with hunting for the right reasons? |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store. You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this subsistence thing out of your silk hat. The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to raise more funds. If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. I have no idea who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example, tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based upon your wild-assed guesses. -- Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s pro-birth. |
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On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:22:13 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 10:12 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store. You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this subsistence thing out of your silk hat. The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to raise more funds. If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. Think again, genius. That is if you're able. http://us4palin.com/accomplishments/...complishments/ |
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who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example, tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based upon your wild-assed guesses. -- [/quote] The so called Motor City Madman is Ted Nugent. |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:10:46 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 8:04 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:37:37 -0500, Harrold wrote: On 11/17/2014 4:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. Is there something wrong with hunting for the right reasons? I think there is something perverse about Harry needing a $2000 assault rifle to shoot bottles with but that seems to be all he has for fun so I don't begrudge him doing it. Gosh, Greg, there you go again, inflating the price of my AR and implying I don't do anything else for fun besides shooting soda bottles. Your fantasies about me are nothing if not amusing. I figure you have at least a grand in it by now, probably more like $1500 and you say it won't be complete without a $1000 scope. Those bottles are tricky little devils. You really need good optics. It does seem to be the only thing you talk about with any enthusiasm. A grand is half of the two grand you claimed, and that's just about right. And I didn't say it wouldn't be complete without a $1000 scope. I said I'd like one but I think I also said I had no way to justify buying one. So, once again, you've "imagineered" your way to a false conclusion. As for "enthusiasm," this is rec.boats. Feh. For serious and entertaining discussions, I post elsewhere. -- Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s pro-birth. |
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On 11/17/2014 11:17 PM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:22:13 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 10:12 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store. You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this subsistence thing out of your silk hat. The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to raise more funds. If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. Think again, genius. That is if you're able. http://us4palin.com/accomplishments/...complishments/ Harry can only think on an empty stomach. |
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On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. Can't read, TOAD? |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Try reading for content. I eat animals I kill, TOAD, including frogs. |
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On 11/18/2014 6:50 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/18/14 12:51 AM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:22:10 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. I have no idea who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example, tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based upon your wild-assed guesses. So someone who just hunts to supplement their income is evil? Do you feel the same about gardening? Personally I do not see much difference between shooting a deer and paying Giant food to kill a steer, butcher and wrap it for me. Both are going to be a dead mammal that we cook and eat. *My* point was that there is no morality in non-subsistence hunting. If a family with very little money can put food on the table or have something to sell or trade by hunting, then *that* is subsistence hunting. You don't seem to understand the point. Simply put, your moral code is extremely fluid and revolves around your current activities and habits. Give us a few examples of what is moral, amoral and immoral, according to the gospel of Harry Krause. |
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On 11/18/14 8:09 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Try reading for content. I eat animals I kill, TOAD, including frogs. You're not a subsistence hunter, ****head. -- Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s pro-birth. |
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I'm a substance hunter. Every pound of usable venison I bag goes to somebody's table.
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On 11/18/14 8:21 AM, Tim wrote:
I'm a substance hunter. Every pound of usable venison I bag goes to somebody's table. Cute! :) -- Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s pro-birth. |
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On 11/18/2014 8:15 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/18/14 8:09 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure. How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks. That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt. Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any moral authority at all.. There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting. So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited, we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace combined to preserve natural habitat. I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the environmental community. Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting. You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out of a silk top hat. Try reading for content. I eat animals I kill, TOAD, including frogs. You're not a subsistence hunter, ****head. According your YOUR moral compass, which spins as frantically as your ethical compass. You are a hoot. |
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On 11/18/2014 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
Cute? Factual You misspelled subsistance and Harry took advantage. |
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