On 11/17/2014 4:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:09:08 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:50:15 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It'd be nice if it actually got back to boats and other related
activities...

...boats and guns go together!

Only if you are a duck hunter ;-)

Salt water just makes them rust.

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

Is there something wrong with hunting for the right reasons?

On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt.
Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any
moral authority at all..


There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting.

So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill
pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited,
we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one
organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace
combined to preserve natural habitat.
I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the
environmental community.


Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting.
You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out
of a silk top hat.
--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/17/14 8:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:37:37 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 11/17/2014 4:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

Is there something wrong with hunting for the right reasons?

I think there is something perverse about Harry needing a $2000
assault rifle to shoot bottles with but that seems to be all he has
for fun so I don't begrudge him doing it.



Gosh, Greg, there you go again, inflating the price of my AR and
implying I don't do anything else for fun besides shooting soda bottles.

Your fantasies about me are nothing if not amusing.

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/17/14 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt.
Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any
moral authority at all..


There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting.

So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill
pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited,
we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one
organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace
combined to preserve natural habitat.
I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the
environmental community.


Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting.
You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out
of a silk top hat.

Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of
hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man
who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store.
You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this
subsistence thing out of your silk hat.
The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and
the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to
raise more funds.



If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. I have no idea
who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example,
tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves
and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based
upon your wild-assed guesses.

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/17/2014 4:48 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:29:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Then you don't understand my position. I *did* come to the discussion
table with a firm conviction on background checks and registration.
It hasn't changed. I don't expect those who's position is cemented in
the wording of the 2A to change either.


I think it is just a cultural difference.
If you come from a place where guns have always had a stigma attached
to them you will carry that forward in your life. We just want you to
respect that it is a view held in a very small area of the US


Tunnel vision..

On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:22:13 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt.
Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any
moral authority at all..


There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting.

So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill
pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited,
we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one
organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace
combined to preserve natural habitat.
I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the
environmental community.


Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting.
You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out
of a silk top hat.

Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of
hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man
who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store.
You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this
subsistence thing out of your silk hat.
The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and
the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to
raise more funds.



If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters.

Think again, genius. That is if you're able.

http://us4palin.com/accomplishments/...complishments/

If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. I have no idea
who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example,
tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves
and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based
upon your wild-assed guesses.

--
[/quote]

The so called Motor City Madman is Ted Nugent.

On 11/17/14 10:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:10:46 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 8:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:37:37 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 11/17/2014 4:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

Is there something wrong with hunting for the right reasons?

I think there is something perverse about Harry needing a $2000
assault rifle to shoot bottles with but that seems to be all he has
for fun so I don't begrudge him doing it.



Gosh, Greg, there you go again, inflating the price of my AR and
implying I don't do anything else for fun besides shooting soda bottles.

Your fantasies about me are nothing if not amusing.

I figure you have at least a grand in it by now, probably more like
$1500 and you say it won't be complete without a $1000 scope.
Those bottles are tricky little devils. You really need good optics.

It does seem to be the only thing you talk about with any enthusiasm.



A grand is half of the two grand you claimed, and that's just about
right. And I didn't say it wouldn't be complete without a $1000 scope. I
said I'd like one but I think I also said I had no way to justify buying
one. So, once again, you've "imagineered" your way to a false conclusion.

As for "enthusiasm," this is rec.boats. Feh. For serious and
entertaining discussions, I post elsewhere.


--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/18/14 12:51 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:22:10 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:




If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters. I have no idea
who the "motor city mad man" is. I have no objection to, for example,
tribesmen who hunt because it is the only way they can feed themselves
and their families. You really should stop coming to conclusions based
upon your wild-assed guesses.

So someone who just hunts to supplement their income is evil?
Do you feel the same about gardening?

Personally I do not see much difference between shooting a deer and
paying Giant food to kill a steer, butcher and wrap it for me.
Both are going to be a dead mammal that we cook and eat.




*My* point was that there is no morality in non-subsistence hunting. If
a family with very little money can put food on the table or have
something to sell or trade by hunting, then *that* is subsistence hunting.

You don't seem to understand the point.

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

On 11/17/2014 11:17 PM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:22:13 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/17/14 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:08:37 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:51:11 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/17/14 6:18 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:23:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Last time I went duck hunting was on the Indian River just south of
Merritt Is, FL. Got a bunch. Little buggers, not mallards for sure.


How brave. Big, strong, brave old fart shoots ducks.

That line only works if you are eating tofu wearing a cardboard belt.
Otherwise you just hire out your animal murder and you do not have any
moral authority at all..


There's no morality in non-subsistence hunting.

So you think the factory farm is morally better? OK but as Bill
pointed out, if it wasn't for hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited,
we would have far less habitat and far fewer ducks, That one
organization does more than PETA, the Sierra Club and Greenpeace
combined to preserve natural habitat.
I don't hunt but I do recognize what hunters bring to the
environmental community.


Try reading for content. My comment was about non-subsistence hunting.
You might consider stopping your habit of reaching for conclusions out
of a silk top hat.

Subsistence hunting is not even the issue although there are plenty of
hunters like the Alaskans you love to hate and the Motor City Mad Man
who do eat from their hunts more than they buy at the store.
You are against hunting in all forms and you just pulled this
subsistence thing out of your silk hat.
The fact still remains that hunters do more for wildlife than PETA and
the rest of the people who raise funds, just to buy more TV ads to
raise more funds.



If you mean the palins, they are not subsistence hunters.

Think again, genius. That is if you're able.

http://us4palin.com/accomplishments/...complishments/


Harry can only think on an empty stomach.