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On 10/28/14 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:45 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 3:32 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 10:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:29 AM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 8:59 AM, Tim wrote: John. For years I've had a British .303 right by my shop door. People ask why I have a gun there, And my standard reply is" becaus the U.S. Constitution says I can" ... Are you required to have a trigger lock or other locking device that disables it? We do in Massachusetts. By law, all firearms must be stored in a safe or have trigger or chamber locks installed. Ammo is supposed to be stored elsewhere ... meaning not in the vicinity of the firearm. My shotgun and Ruger 10/22 have locks on them. The handguns are loaded but kept in a safe. Best keep your safe open, lest you need quick access to your hand cannons ;-) I keep them all in the safe during the day (unless I am carrying one which is rare). At night I keep one of them within easy reach from my bed. I think I told the story of hunting down "Fudge" recently in the middle of the night. Goofy dog got out of the garage and was exploring the house at 2am. Sounded for sure that someone was moving around from room to room. These days, I keep an unloaded .357 revolver close by at night, with a 5Star Speedloader with six rounds of Hornady Defense Ammo nearby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBO6Dm_PNJM .357 MAG ammo is... *loud* ! You must live in a crappy neighborhood. I'm sure the .357 MAG rounds would be just as noisy in your neighborhood. Oh, you think I live in a dangerous neighborhood. I suspect the violent crime rate in this part of our county is lower than it is in your 'hood. Said nothing about the sound. You must live in a crappy hood, to think you need a firearm handy at night. We have little violent crime in my hood. Mostly white collar criminal. You just never know when a little **** with a big mouth from Connecticut (or his full-patch motorcycle gang buddy) will jump on a kid's motorbike, drive down here, and bust his way through the door. If that happens, I want to be ready and able to greet him properly. Paranoid. He is paranoid. The local police in his area thought enough about his threats to pay him a home visit and to follow up with me. He's a diminutive, loud-mouthed, short-tempered right-wing jerk with nothing to lose, and he talks a lot about perpetrating violence. -- A vote for any Republican is a vote AGAINST: Social Security, Medicare, Minimum Wage, Fair Pay, Food Stamps, Clean Air and Water, Modest Gun Regulations, Public Schools, Rebuilding Infrastructure and Good Jobs, Women's Rights, Veterans’ Rights, LGBT Rights, and, of course, Your Right to Vote. |
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On 10/28/14 11:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/28/2014 11:21 PM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:45 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 3:32 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 10:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:29 AM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 8:59 AM, Tim wrote: John. For years I've had a British .303 right by my shop door. People ask why I have a gun there, And my standard reply is" becaus the U.S. Constitution says I can" ... Are you required to have a trigger lock or other locking device that disables it? We do in Massachusetts. By law, all firearms must be stored in a safe or have trigger or chamber locks installed. Ammo is supposed to be stored elsewhere ... meaning not in the vicinity of the firearm. My shotgun and Ruger 10/22 have locks on them. The handguns are loaded but kept in a safe. Best keep your safe open, lest you need quick access to your hand cannons ;-) I keep them all in the safe during the day (unless I am carrying one which is rare). At night I keep one of them within easy reach from my bed. I think I told the story of hunting down "Fudge" recently in the middle of the night. Goofy dog got out of the garage and was exploring the house at 2am. Sounded for sure that someone was moving around from room to room. These days, I keep an unloaded .357 revolver close by at night, with a 5Star Speedloader with six rounds of Hornady Defense Ammo nearby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBO6Dm_PNJM .357 MAG ammo is... *loud* ! You must live in a crappy neighborhood. I'm sure the .357 MAG rounds would be just as noisy in your neighborhood. Oh, you think I live in a dangerous neighborhood. I suspect the violent crime rate in this part of our county is lower than it is in your 'hood. Said nothing about the sound. You must live in a crappy hood, to think need a firearm handy at night. We have little violent crime in my hood. Mostly white collar criminal. You just never know when a little **** with a big mouth from Connecticut (or his full-patch motorcycle gang buddy) will jump on a kid's motorbike, drive down here, and bust his way through the door. If that happens, I want to be ready and able to greet him properly. Paranoid. Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so afraid of? Apparently me :) I do indeed keep a weather eye out for you, little ****. You're an ill-tempered failure with nothing to lose, and you threaten violence. You've made threats against several posters here over the years. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
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On 10/28/2014 11:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/28/2014 11:21 PM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:45 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 3:32 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 10:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:29 AM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 8:59 AM, Tim wrote: John. For years I've had a British .303 right by my shop door. People ask why I have a gun there, And my standard reply is" becaus the U.S. Constitution says I can" ... Are you required to have a trigger lock or other locking device that disables it? We do in Massachusetts. By law, all firearms must be stored in a safe or have trigger or chamber locks installed. Ammo is supposed to be stored elsewhere ... meaning not in the vicinity of the firearm. My shotgun and Ruger 10/22 have locks on them. The handguns are loaded but kept in a safe. Best keep your safe open, lest you need quick access to your hand cannons ;-) I keep them all in the safe during the day (unless I am carrying one which is rare). At night I keep one of them within easy reach from my bed. I think I told the story of hunting down "Fudge" recently in the middle of the night. Goofy dog got out of the garage and was exploring the house at 2am. Sounded for sure that someone was moving around from room to room. These days, I keep an unloaded .357 revolver close by at night, with a 5Star Speedloader with six rounds of Hornady Defense Ammo nearby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBO6Dm_PNJM .357 MAG ammo is... *loud* ! You must live in a crappy neighborhood. I'm sure the .357 MAG rounds would be just as noisy in your neighborhood. Oh, you think I live in a dangerous neighborhood. I suspect the violent crime rate in this part of our county is lower than it is in your 'hood. Said nothing about the sound. You must live in a crappy hood, to think need a firearm handy at night. We have little violent crime in my hood. Mostly white collar criminal. You just never know when a little **** with a big mouth from Connecticut (or his full-patch motorcycle gang buddy) will jump on a kid's motorbike, drive down here, and bust his way through the door. If that happens, I want to be ready and able to greet him properly. Paranoid. Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so afraid of? Apparently me :) Maybe. He was scared enough to call the cops on you. |
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On 10/29/2014 7:24 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/28/14 11:52 PM, KC wrote: On 10/28/2014 11:21 PM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 11:00 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:45 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 3:32 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 10:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:29 AM, Harrold wrote: On 10/28/2014 10:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2014 8:59 AM, Tim wrote: John. For years I've had a British .303 right by my shop door. People ask why I have a gun there, And my standard reply is" becaus the U.S. Constitution says I can" ... Are you required to have a trigger lock or other locking device that disables it? We do in Massachusetts. By law, all firearms must be stored in a safe or have trigger or chamber locks installed. Ammo is supposed to be stored elsewhere ... meaning not in the vicinity of the firearm. My shotgun and Ruger 10/22 have locks on them. The handguns are loaded but kept in a safe. Best keep your safe open, lest you need quick access to your hand cannons ;-) I keep them all in the safe during the day (unless I am carrying one which is rare). At night I keep one of them within easy reach from my bed. I think I told the story of hunting down "Fudge" recently in the middle of the night. Goofy dog got out of the garage and was exploring the house at 2am. Sounded for sure that someone was moving around from room to room. These days, I keep an unloaded .357 revolver close by at night, with a 5Star Speedloader with six rounds of Hornady Defense Ammo nearby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBO6Dm_PNJM .357 MAG ammo is... *loud* ! You must live in a crappy neighborhood. I'm sure the .357 MAG rounds would be just as noisy in your neighborhood. Oh, you think I live in a dangerous neighborhood. I suspect the violent crime rate in this part of our county is lower than it is in your 'hood. Said nothing about the sound. You must live in a crappy hood, to think need a firearm handy at night. We have little violent crime in my hood. Mostly white collar criminal. You just never know when a little **** with a big mouth from Connecticut (or his full-patch motorcycle gang buddy) will jump on a kid's motorbike, drive down here, and bust his way through the door. If that happens, I want to be ready and able to greet him properly. Paranoid. Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so afraid of? Apparently me :) I do indeed keep a weather eye out for you, little ****. You're an ill-tempered failure with nothing to lose, and you threaten violence. You've made threats against several posters here over the years. Can't you tell the difference between idle threats and the real deal? |
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On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the roadside to turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than finding and keeping a decent job. I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water bottles and performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by third world children. Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop bottles, and I'm going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale, I've found, produces the biggest "explosions." I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box Colt AR15s. They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's corporation left behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go" and "No Go" tools in their little kits when they need to replace the barrels in those Cheney Saturday Night Specials. And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in my AR15. It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull, and is ok but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half that amount of pull. For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a good job right out of the Grapes of Wrath. :) It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs) running than a new in the box AR. The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts does not enhance your argument. I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see where regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little difference in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the parts are identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed. I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK rifles. They don't interest me. Non responsive answer ... again. Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16 running. What skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15 from a stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and maintain my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including the various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to manufacture a billet lower or hammer a barrel. As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
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On 10/29/14 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:35:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the roadside to turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than finding and keeping a decent job. I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water bottles and performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by third world children. Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop bottles, and I'm going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale, I've found, produces the biggest "explosions." I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box Colt AR15s. They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's corporation left behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go" and "No Go" tools in their little kits when they need to replace the barrels in those Cheney Saturday Night Specials. And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in my AR15. It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull, and is ok but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half that amount of pull. For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a good job right out of the Grapes of Wrath. :) It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs) running than a new in the box AR. The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts does not enhance your argument. I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see where regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little difference in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the parts are identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed. I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK rifles. They don't interest me. Non responsive answer ... again. Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16 running. What skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15 from a stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and maintain my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including the various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to manufacture a billet lower or hammer a barrel. As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs. A 3d world child is keeping an old M16 running with limited access to parts if any and it is usually a worn out Vietnam era M16A1 that we gave away during one of our "save the world from communism" misadventures. That is far more difficult than simply dropping new parts in a new lower. and acting like you are a master gunsmith. Really. What parts are these Third World kids machining? Springs? Detents? Levers? Are they carving parts out of hickory logs? Or are they simply scavenging parts out of one old rifle and tossing them into another old rifle. I made no claim of being a master gunsmith. I'm no more of a master gunsmith than you are a master auto mechanic, public health expert, or environmental engineer, or an expert in any of the other 100 areas in which you've claimed mastery. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
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On 10/29/14 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:28:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/29/14 12:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:35:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the roadside to turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than finding and keeping a decent job. I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water bottles and performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by third world children. Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop bottles, and I'm going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale, I've found, produces the biggest "explosions." I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box Colt AR15s. They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's corporation left behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go" and "No Go" tools in their little kits when they need to replace the barrels in those Cheney Saturday Night Specials. And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in my AR15. It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull, and is ok but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half that amount of pull. For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a good job right out of the Grapes of Wrath. :) It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs) running than a new in the box AR. The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts does not enhance your argument. I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see where regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little difference in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the parts are identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed. I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK rifles. They don't interest me. Non responsive answer ... again. Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16 running. What skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15 from a stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and maintain my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including the various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to manufacture a billet lower or hammer a barrel. As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs. A 3d world child is keeping an old M16 running with limited access to parts if any and it is usually a worn out Vietnam era M16A1 that we gave away during one of our "save the world from communism" misadventures. That is far more difficult than simply dropping new parts in a new lower. and acting like you are a master gunsmith. Really. What parts are these Third World kids machining? Springs? Detents? Levers? Are they carving parts out of hickory logs? Or are they simply scavenging parts out of one old rifle and tossing them into another old rifle. Exactly. I made no claim of being a master gunsmith. I'm no more of a master gunsmith than you are a master auto mechanic, public health expert, or environmental engineer, or an expert in any of the other 100 areas in which you've claimed mastery. You only seem to hang your hat on that one skill, assembling erector set guns.. I don't see rec.boats as a place where I would want to discuss or show my expertise with Trompe-l'śil oil painting. -- “There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” - Norman Mailer |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/29/14 12:17 PM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:35:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the roadside to turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than finding and keeping a decent job. I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water bottles and performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by third world children. Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop bottles, and I'm going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale, I've found, produces the biggest "explosions." I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box Colt AR15s. They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's corporation left behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go" and "No Go" tools in their little kits when they need to replace the barrels in those Cheney Saturday Night Specials. And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in my AR15. It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull, and is ok but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half that amount of pull. For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a good job right out of the Grapes of Wrath. :) It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs) running than a new in the box AR. The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts does not enhance your argument. I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see where regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little difference in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the parts are identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed. I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK rifles. They don't interest me. Non responsive answer ... again. Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16 running. What skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15 from a stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and maintain my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including the various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to manufacture a billet lower or hammer a barrel. As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs. A 3d world child is keeping an old M16 running with limited access to parts if any and it is usually a worn out Vietnam era M16A1 that we gave away during one of our "save the world from communism" misadventures. That is far more difficult than simply dropping new parts in a new lower. and acting like you are a master gunsmith. Really. What parts are these Third World kids machining? Springs? Detents? Levers? Are they carving parts out of hickory logs? Or are they simply scavenging parts out of one old rifle and tossing them into another old rifle. I made no claim of being a master gunsmith. I'm no more of a master gunsmith than you are a master auto mechanic, public health expert, or environmental engineer, or an expert in any of the other 100 areas in which you've claimed mastery. Those 3rd world people are turning out nice parts on old machining equipment. Do not need the latest CNC stuff. |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:44:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/28/2014 5:57 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:37:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:23:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: $35 every three years doesn't sound onerous to me. We pay $100 for six years up here. Free if 70 or over. Per gun? Eeek! You will love Florida LOL ... no The $100 is for the license or renewal every 6 years. You can own as many guns as you want. The registration process allows the state to monitor how many you buy and sell though and they might investigate if they suspect you are an unlicensed dealer. I didn't take John's $35 (for three years) as being a fee per gun. It's just for the fingerprinting. As I said, you missed the fee per gun part. What was it, $13 bucks or something? I don't have a problem with that. I expect not. You wouldn't have a problem with $1300/gun, but it would sure be an infringement on the right of many, including me, to own a firearm, wouldn't it? Would it require a change in the Constitution to pass such a law in a city, county, or state? |
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