On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:18:52 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would rip a rabbit up though.

The only way to get a decent rabbit is with a .22. Otherwise you are
picking birdshot out of it.

I shot a couple but I was not that big a fan of the meat. It has a
funny wang to it. Commercial rabbit is worse.

The last one I ate we took with a 69 Corvette.
I must have just whacked him in the head with the spoiler and there
really didn't seem to be a mark on him. My roomie insisted on taking
it home and cooking it.

It was as good as any other I had.

===

Dang, you're the only guy I know who has actually eaten at the Road
Kill Cafe. :-)

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 7:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.


Would that be the Milk-less Milk Shake Machine? I don't know what's in
them now, but back when I am talking about, they were not made of milk.



What ever was in them, that is the reason that Krock actually bought McD's.

wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:00 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would
rip a rabbit up though.

Probably a .17 HMR would be a good round.

That is also a varmint exploder. You just need a .22rf for rabbits.

Lots longer distance.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:40:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/20/14 6:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye
at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303
British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was
a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223
would rip a rabbit up though.


Damn! You guys are tough, tough, tough...using a little bitty .223 on
those really dangerous bunny rabbits. Aren't you afraid that unless you
make multiple hits on the bunny, it might bite you on the ankle? You
should step up to at least a 5.56 round...why risk losing your life to a
****ed-off bunny?

Must be Carter wannabees. He had to kill one from a canoe because it
was going to board and take him prisoner.

The rabbit was after Jimmie because of lust in its heart.

wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:21:42 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:00 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would
rip a rabbit up though.

Probably a .17 HMR would be a good round.

That is also a varmint exploder. You just need a .22rf for rabbits.

Lots longer distance.

So you have to walk a long ways to get a rabbit that is shredded to
much to eat.

Friends in Oregon shoot sage rats ( ground squirrels ) and are not worried
about eating.

wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:15:21 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 7:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.


Would that be the Milk-less Milk Shake Machine? I don't know what's in
them now, but back when I am talking about, they were not made of milk.



What ever was in them, that is the reason that Krock actually bought McD's.

Actually we have that backwards . Krok was selling milk shake machines
and he wanted to know why McDonalds needed 12 (or some huge number) of
them. When he saw their business model he wanted in.
The thing that McDonald had figured out was previously prepared
burgers pushed out the window really fast at a cheap price (AKA "fast
food")

Actually forgot he was a shake machine salesman.

On 10/20/2014 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:38:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.


Little Tavern is a White Castle sort of thing if you are a mid
westerner.
They long predate McDonalds. My father flipped burgers at Little
Tavern for a few weeks in 1930 or so when he had just arrived in DC
from Oklahoma.
It is a "slider" type burger with grilled onions and a pickle slice on
a steamed bun.

The 3 main burger chains have different philosophies on the burger.
McD does make them up and stock them under the lights from what I see.
BK cooks the meat in a robo broiler, stocks the meat at the end of the
broiler or over at the sandwich station and makes up the sandwich to
order. (if the meat is cold, they nuke it)
Wendy's keeps burgers cooking on the grill all day, making the
sandwich to order and when the meat on the grill gets too old, they
make chili out of it.
I don't know much about McD but Wendy's and BK use the computer system
to predict how many burgers to cook, based on past usage in 15 minute
intervals.
The manager has an opportunity to override the computer but he does it
at his peril because they also get rated by the same 15 minute
interval and it is a business of pennies.

Everything they do is logged (fry drops, burgers cooked etc) and
balanced against sales. The guys in Columbus or Miami have a pretty
good idea of how many burgers are getting cold and how long the fries
have been baking, if they want to look.
It least that was the way it was when I got away from the business and
I have to believe the computer only got better. That is why I think
the robot store is not that far fetched. They could lose about half of
the kitchen staff and only make things go smoother. Ordering on your
phone could take out a couple more of the counter staff, particularity
if I-pay type services take the money out of the transaction.




I don't go to McDonalds often but I think they now "cook" to order.
"Cooking" is basically nuking a pre-cooked piece of something they call
hamburger in the microwave and assembling the burger per the order. I
don't think they stack 'em up anymore.

Gfre says...
"It is amazing what youth and copious amounts of alcohol will do.
In our defense. The rabbit was still warm when we got it home.
I cleaned and skinned it on the curb in front of the apartment, threw
the guts in the dumpster. I scraped and salted the hide while my
roomie was cooking the rabbit. It may still be hanging on the wall in
my old shop at my ex's house. "

Whew boy....this reminds me of the old Bob Newhart Show.
Larry, his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl used to go up on the highway looking for roadkill to serve as 'critter de jour" at their cafe.

On 10/21/14 7:37 AM, True North wrote:
Gfre says...
"It is amazing what youth and copious amounts of alcohol will do.
In our defense. The rabbit was still warm when we got it home.
I cleaned and skinned it on the curb in front of the apartment, threw
the guts in the dumpster. I scraped and salted the hide while my
roomie was cooking the rabbit. It may still be hanging on the wall in
my old shop at my ex's house. "

Whew boy....this reminds me of the old Bob Newhart Show.
Larry, his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl used to go up on the highway looking for roadkill to serve as 'critter de jour" at their cafe.


I think the fast food burger chains still do that!

I wonder if it is a "southern" thing. When we lived in Virginia and
Florida, and even here in southern Maryland, it isn't unusual to see a
couple of guys in a pickup truck stopping to pick up and, I guess, take
home deer and even raccoons that have been hit and killed by cars. I
suppose it happens in New England, where I grew up, but I never saw it.

On the "back" route from here to Annapolis, there are a few roadside
signs offering the services of fellas who will "dress" your deer, dress
meaning butcher. I suppose these butchers will handle fresh road kill.
There's no shortage of it.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would rip a rabbit up though.

I've never used anything but a .22 for rabbits. I haven't eaten rabbit
much since I was a kid. Back then we ate them at least a couple times
a week. Cheap.