John, you think .22LR is rare and expensive, go looking for .22 short!

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:31:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Deer are 180 pound rats. They are not much of an indicator of bio
diversity. I have seen them in downtown DC.

Funny. When I was a kid and even into early 20's, I loved venison. A
year or so ago a friend gave me some venison sausage and some steaks.
The smell of them cooking took away my appetite for venison
completely.

Greg you have a point. We don't have bird feeders but if we had standing feeders and critters well, my cure would probably be a Crosman pellet rifle .

Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:31:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Deer are 180 pound rats. They are not much of an indicator of bio
diversity. I have seen them in downtown DC.

Funny. When I was a kid and even into early 20's, I loved venison. A
year or so ago a friend gave me some venison sausage and some steaks.
The smell of them cooking took away my appetite for venison
completely.

Might depend on the care of the venison. As a kid, did not like venison,
but coastal season started in July. I think in the heat the deer went bad
as it fell to the ground. Later, my dad got some deer when the snow and
cold was in season and the venison tasted decent.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

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If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

There is a squirrel proof feeder. Taylor's Hardware in Qualala , CA has a
video. They could make more money selling the video I think. Is
absolutely hilarious. As they get on the feeder, they are heavy and forces
the feeder to spin. Throwing off the squirrel. Some distance, also.

Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...

On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

On 10/21/2014 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

How about this one?

I don't think a pellet gun would discourage this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmnTrD4j1c

No a pellet gun wouldn't even distract a bear But at that distance a .44 mag or a 12ga. Slug would.

On 10/21/2014 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:00:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

I bet you will have to grease that up fairly often if you have a lot
of squirrels.
They will wipe it all off eventually smearing it off in the dirt.



YaBUT think of the entertainment value.