BoatBanter.com - Grimes in Kentucky

On 10/13/14 4:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2014 3:26 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out
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**** Turkey too.

**** NATO too? Putin will like that.

Who said anything about NATO?
The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?"
You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you?
What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this?
You guys seem to be afraid of him.
A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear
itself."

Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact.

A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the
sea.
Fact.

Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are
Muslim,
but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United
States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation.

Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some
history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study,
and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell.

Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the
Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college.

Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the
Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that
area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and
promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to
the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the
Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in
the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after
Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were
still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire.

I admit my prior knowledge of Middle East history is very limited. These
discussions have provided the impetus to go read about it though.
Still far from understanding it all but I know enough to realize that
there's "history" and there's "beliefs".

A lot of "history" is little more than the writing down of "beliefs,"
but I know you know that.

In contemporary times, since you and I have been alive, the Israeli Jews
have turned a desolate chunk of land into a modern, functioning
democracy with thriving business, industry, agriculture, educational and
research institutions and a military. The Palestinians, on the other
hand, have done very little with the territory they control and their
leaders seem to do little more than urge their people to be patient
until the day they can push the Jews into the Mediterranean.

The Israelis have been helped by benefactors abroad, but the wealth of
Jews around the world pales in comparison to the wealth of the
oil-soaked Arabs, who have helped the Palestinians eke out a survival
but not build themselves a viable country. But, then, most of the
non-oil-soaked Arab Muslim countries in that part of the world have not
done much nation building for themselves. The rich live well, of course,
but everyone else lives in squalor.

The Muslim Arabs seem unwilling to turn on their leaders who do little
but exploit them.

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The new GOP credo:

Hate the people who are being oppressed,
love the people who are doing the oppressing.