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On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. |
Grimes in Kentucky
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Maybe you should have taken some Technical courses. Then you would be well rounded. Engineers had to also take Liberal Arts courses. Then you would have some critical thinking skills. |
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Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Sometimes he lays in the sand. Other times he swims about. That is a complete fact. |
Grimes in Kentucky
In article , says...
On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. It's secular. The people there are comprised of 99.8% Muslim. Enough to call it a "Muslim country" here. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. You can find all you want to know about Turkey on the internet. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/2014 3:26 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. I admit my prior knowledge of Middle East history is very limited. These discussions have provided the impetus to go read about it though. Still far from understanding it all but I know enough to realize that there's "history" and there's "beliefs". |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/2014 3:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Sometimes he lays in the sand. Other times he swims about. That is a complete fact. He also is hatched with eyes on both sides of his head but one of them eventually migrates so both eyes are on the same side. Limits his field of view of all around him. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/14 4:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/13/2014 3:26 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. I admit my prior knowledge of Middle East history is very limited. These discussions have provided the impetus to go read about it though. Still far from understanding it all but I know enough to realize that there's "history" and there's "beliefs". A lot of "history" is little more than the writing down of "beliefs," but I know you know that. In contemporary times, since you and I have been alive, the Israeli Jews have turned a desolate chunk of land into a modern, functioning democracy with thriving business, industry, agriculture, educational and research institutions and a military. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have done very little with the territory they control and their leaders seem to do little more than urge their people to be patient until the day they can push the Jews into the Mediterranean. The Israelis have been helped by benefactors abroad, but the wealth of Jews around the world pales in comparison to the wealth of the oil-soaked Arabs, who have helped the Palestinians eke out a survival but not build themselves a viable country. But, then, most of the non-oil-soaked Arab Muslim countries in that part of the world have not done much nation building for themselves. The rich live well, of course, but everyone else lives in squalor. The Muslim Arabs seem unwilling to turn on their leaders who do little but exploit them. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/2014 4:39 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 4:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 3:26 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. I admit my prior knowledge of Middle East history is very limited. These discussions have provided the impetus to go read about it though. Still far from understanding it all but I know enough to realize that there's "history" and there's "beliefs". A lot of "history" is little more than the writing down of "beliefs," but I know you know that. In contemporary times, since you and I have been alive, the Israeli Jews have turned a desolate chunk of land into a modern, functioning democracy with thriving business, industry, agriculture, educational and research institutions and a military. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have done very little with the territory they control and their leaders seem to do little more than urge their people to be patient until the day they can push the Jews into the Mediterranean. The Israelis have been helped by benefactors abroad, but the wealth of Jews around the world pales in comparison to the wealth of the oil-soaked Arabs, who have helped the Palestinians eke out a survival but not build themselves a viable country. But, then, most of the non-oil-soaked Arab Muslim countries in that part of the world have not done much nation building for themselves. The rich live well, of course, but everyone else lives in squalor. The Muslim Arabs seem unwilling to turn on their leaders who do little but exploit them. That was true of China for many years also following WWII. The general populace were treated like mushrooms. Keep 'em in the dark and feed them manure. I recall my history professor (back in the late 70's while attending night school) making the point that once the Chinese had a taste of freedom and free enterprise the government would start to lose control. Seeing it beginning to happen in Hong Kong now and despite Internet controls the rest of China is starting to take notice. I've mentioned before that I visited the PRC back in 1986 when the Chinese government was "experimenting" with some elements of a capitalistic driven economy. My company was invited to explore "joint venture" opportunities. The provinces selected for the experiment were purposely picked based on their remoteness and being somewhat isolated from the more populated areas. Each meeting was attended by government representatives along with university faculty, some students and hand picked local businesses. I've checked to see what that area is like now, 28 years later. Wuxi, China is now a bustling major city and is considered the "birthplace" of modern Chinese industry. When I visited it was a very poor area, filled with people on bicycles and bicycle repair shops. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. The locals had been there for millennia also. Maybe they are taking there talking points from the founders of Israel. Take the land via violence. |
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On 10/13/14 5:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. The locals had been there for millennia also. Maybe they are taking there talking points from the founders of Israel. Take the land via violence. Or maybe they are taking their lessons from the founders of the United States. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/13/2014 8:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:00:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Debating here should be a college course, at least if you want to use facts.. I know a lot more than I did a few years ago too. I will be honest, most of it is on the internet, if you are willing to dig a little deeper than wikipedia and the top 10 hits on google Sometimes I spend a half hour or more or reading to write a paragraph because you get crucified if you are wrong. I write it off to intellectual curiosity and it doesn't cost me a dime. The Internet is amazing. It floors me to think of how we used to do research on a subject. In some ways it was better though. Spending hours in the library was a great way to meet girls. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/13/14 5:44 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/13/2014 2:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/13/14 2:08 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 13:17:32 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:22:02 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: **** Turkey too. **** NATO too? Putin will like that. Who said anything about NATO? The context of that comment was "Who gives a **** about Turkey?" You do understand it's a Muslim country, don't you? What's that punk Putin got to to do with any of this? You guys seem to be afraid of him. A great man once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Turkey is a member of NATO. It is just a fact. A flounder is a flatfish that lays in the sand at the bottom of the sea. Fact. Turkey is not a Muslim country. The majority of its citizens are Muslim, but it is a secular nation. The majority of the citizens of the United States are Christians, but the United States also is a secular nation. Of course, to know that about Turkey, you'd have to have read some history, and, as we all know, history is a liberal arts field of study, and therefore of no interest to Greg Fretwell. Don't know about that. I've learned more about the history of the Middle East reading his posts than I ever learned in college. Then, I'm afraid, you still know very little about the history of the Middle East. Greg simply dismisses much of the Jewish history in that area going back thousands and hundreds of years in order to present and promote the Arab point of view and he conveniently pays no attention to the roles of the Arabs in World War I and World War II, the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the division of Muslim lands. The Jews have been in the Holy Land for thousands of years, almost non-interrupted. Even after Herod's death, when Israel was divided up by the Romans, there were still Jews there, and there were Jews there under the Ottoman Empire. The locals had been there for millennia also. Maybe they are taking there talking points from the founders of Israel. Take the land via violence. Or maybe they are taking their lessons from the founders of the United States. Large country, and few natives by the time Europeans arrived. The Spanish explorers spread lots of killer diseases. |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:20:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: The Internet is amazing. It floors me to think of how we used to do research on a subject. In some ways it was better though. Spending hours in the library was a great way to meet girls. I went to an all boys school. The library wasn't near as much fun ;-) I do really like the internet tho. Back in the olden days,if you want to do something like research a Supreme Court decision, you needed a $100,000 law library and you also needed to have a pretty good idea where to look. Now you can find the decision in minutes, if not seconds. There are also many sources of interpretation because sometimes the logic can be somewhat convoluted, depending on who wrote it. I loved the library growing up also. Plus the internet is easier. I had access to both the small library a few blocks from my hose, but in high school we used Cal Berkeley's library. In those days, you could even park on campus by the library. |
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On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 01:57:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... What, you don't like that I'm not agreeing with you? I said "**** Turkey" and start you talking about NATO. How can you separate Turkey from NATO? Are you saying we can renege on our NATO treaty because Turkey is muslim? NATO treaties don't even enter into it. Yet. I just said "**** Turkey." And the U.S can in many ways. That's the way it works. Why are you so worried about Putin and NATO? Thought this was about ISIS. Turkey is a NATO member and we are committed by treaty to come to their aid if they are attacked, along with virtually all of Europe. Are you saying they are of a lesser class of NATO member than UK or Germany? I don't know why you're talking about NATO here. This is when you first started going on about NATO. --- Luddite: Meanwhile, our fellow NATO member Turkey sits on the sidelines, not willing to fight unless we put troops in. Me: "Training" Arabs is the military's idea. It's silly. **** Turkey too. --- So it was obviously said in the context of Turkey wanting us to put U.S. fighting troops into Syria and Iraq. You might say "Okay, we'll do it." I say **** Turkey. I have no idea why you're taking about NATO. I already told you Turkey is a Muslim country. Muslim countries destroy themselves from within. That's what's happening in Syria, and that's what's happening in Iraq. Even the ISIS punks aren't stupid enough to attack Turkey's borders. If Turkey is "attacked" it will be from within, a civil war. NATO can do absolutely nothing about that. So much for NATO. I don't think that necessarily will happen with Turkey, but who knows? If it does happen and ISIS wins Turkey, NATO will expel them and they too will say "**** Turkey." OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote: OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. The strongest force in the Middle East as of now. And the only sane country there. But they aren't a NATO member, whatever good that would do. I suppose that was a mere Freudian slip from the history guy. |
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On 10/14/14 4:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:18:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote: OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. Israel is like having a cat. They will hang around as long as you feed them,($3 billion a year in this case) they won't do anything for you and they won't come when you call them. Name one thing Israel has done to help us with anything in the middle east other than not getting involved. They have spied on us and attacked one of our ships They didn't even try to say it was an accident.. Hehehe. Probably your most pathetic post on political/historical matters to date. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/14/14 4:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:18:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote: OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. Israel is like having a cat. They will hang around as long as you feed them,($3 billion a year in this case) they won't do anything for you and they won't come when you call them. Name one thing Israel has done to help us with anything in the middle east other than not getting involved. They have spied on us and attacked one of our ships They didn't even try to say it was an accident.. Hehehe. Probably your most pathetic post on political/historical matters to date. Then, what are they? |
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On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:28:57 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
Hehehe. Probably your most pathetic post on political/historical matters to date. Every one of your posts are pathetic clip n paste ****. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/14/2014 8:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:28:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 4:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:18:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote: OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. Israel is like having a cat. They will hang around as long as you feed them,($3 billion a year in this case) they won't do anything for you and they won't come when you call them. Name one thing Israel has done to help us with anything in the middle east other than not getting involved. They have spied on us and attacked one of our ships They didn't even try to say it was an accident.. Hehehe. Probably your most pathetic post on political/historical matters to date. Non responsive When has Israel EVER actually helped us in that region? Didn't they bomb Iran, and Iran as well as others are kept somewhat in check knowing they will do it again. |
Grimes in Kentucky
On 10/14/14 8:21 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:28:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 4:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:18:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/14/14 12:12 PM, wrote: OK **** Turkey but they are the closest thing to an ally we have in the whole damned middle east. Right, because Israel isn't an ally of the United States because...they're Jews, not Druze. Israel is like having a cat. They will hang around as long as you feed them,($3 billion a year in this case) they won't do anything for you and they won't come when you call them. Name one thing Israel has done to help us with anything in the middle east other than not getting involved. They have spied on us and attacked one of our ships They didn't even try to say it was an accident.. Hehehe. Probably your most pathetic post on political/historical matters to date. Non responsive When has Israel EVER actually helped us in that region? For one thing, they made possible the participation of Arab Muslim states in George H.W. Bush's war to oust Saddam Hussein from Kuwait. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
Grimes in Kentucky
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Grimes in Kentucky
KC wrote:
On 10/14/2014 9:26 PM, wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:53:05 -0400, KC wrote: Non responsive When has Israel EVER actually helped us in that region? Didn't they bomb Iran, and Iran as well as others are kept somewhat in check knowing they will do it again. They have bombed Iran a number of times but that was for their purposes. It had nothing to with helping us. You must be pretty deep into the loop to know that for a fact. Just like bombing Libia. Elementary to deduce the purposes. |
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