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As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
Last German state to do away with university tuition fees
The Times September 23, 2014 7:00AM ALL GERMAN universities will be free of charge when term starts next week after fees were abandoned in Lower Saxony, the last of seven states to charge. “Tuition fees are socially unjust,” said Dorothee Stapelfeldt, senator for science in Hamburg, which scrapped charges in 2012. “They particularly discourage young people who do not have a traditional academic family background from taking up studies. It is a core task of politics to ensure that young women and men can study with a high quality standard free of charge in Germany.” The experiment with tuition fees, which began in 2006, was overturned by democratic pressure against the conservative-led state governments, all in the west of Germany, which decided to charge euros 1,000 ($A1436) a year. They were able to do so after a constitutional court ruling that moderate fees combined with loans did not contradict the country’s commitment to universal higher education. Within eight years, all the states have changed their minds, with Lower Saxony the last to give way after the defeat of its Christian Democrat rulers last year. It means that this autumn’s student intake will enjoy free university courses. “We got rid of tuition fees because we do not want higher education which depends on the wealth of the parents,” said Gabriele Heinen-Kljajic of the Green party, the minister for science and culture in Lower Saxony. Under Germany’s federal system, state governments run education policy. _ _ _ Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:08:10 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Pusbag wrote:
Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Enjoy your slide, you live there. Like you could or would do anything to help the situation. You wont even pay your Bankruptcies. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:54:59 -0400, Harrold wrote:
On 9/30/2014 10:51 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:08:10 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Pusbag wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Enjoy your slide, you live there. Like you could or would do anything to help the situation. You wont even pay your Bankruptcies. Krause wants to kill the American educational system and have our young people go to college in Germany. Didn't Krause get through Yale on a fully paid academic scholarship? Or was it football? |
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On 10/1/2014 8:26 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:54:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/30/2014 10:51 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:08:10 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Pusbag wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Enjoy your slide, you live there. Like you could or would do anything to help the situation. You wont even pay your Bankruptcies. Krause wants to kill the American educational system and have our young people go to college in Germany. Didn't Krause get through Yale on a fully paid academic scholarship? Or was it football? Would you verify that. He claims to have received an undergraduate degree at some obscure Kansas school. He has never stated where he got his masters. Musta been Matchbook U. |
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On 10/1/2014 9:53 AM, Harrold wrote:
On 10/1/2014 8:26 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:54:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/30/2014 10:51 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:08:10 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Pusbag wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Enjoy your slide, you live there. Like you could or would do anything to help the situation. You wont even pay your Bankruptcies. Krause wants to kill the American educational system and have our young people go to college in Germany. Didn't Krause get through Yale on a fully paid academic scholarship? Or was it football? Would you verify that. He claims to have received an undergraduate degree at some obscure Kansas school. He has never stated where he got his masters. Musta been Matchbook U. Can't be verified, it's not true. krause lied about Yale long before Google ruined most of his reported history |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:08:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. === Or their thrifty, hard working parents forgo a few luxuries for the sake of their children. |
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On 10/1/2014 9:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:08:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. === Or their thrifty, hard working parents forgo a few luxuries for the sake of their children. Harry says it should be "free". Problem is nothing is "free". |
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On 10/1/2014 10:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/1/2014 9:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:08:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. === Or their thrifty, hard working parents forgo a few luxuries for the sake of their children. Harry says it should be "free". Problem is nothing is "free". I know very few who could send their kids to an Ivy League college just by "forgo-ing a few luxuries"... but then again, most of the folks I know are middle and upper middle class, no uber rich since I left Essex... |
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On 10/1/2014 10:41 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/1/2014 10:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/1/2014 9:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 22:08:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Under the U.S. system, students incur tens of thousands of dollars in debt. === Or their thrifty, hard working parents forgo a few luxuries for the sake of their children. Harry says it should be "free". Problem is nothing is "free". I know very few who could send their kids to an Ivy League college just by "forgo-ing a few luxuries"... but then again, most of the folks I know are middle and upper middle class, no uber rich since I left Essex... Everyone has different levels of natural smarts or capability. An Ivy League school isn't going to make a dim-wit any smarter or more capable. Harry should agree with that. George Bush is a Yale graduate. I am a firm believer that you should acquire the level of education that best utilizes the capabilities you were born with and then make the most of it. The world is full of examples of successful, contributing members of society who don't have degrees from prestigious schools. In fact, the networking and peer connections that Wayne speaks of is probably why we have so many incompetents in high places. |
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