On Friday, August 29, 2014 9:33:01 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:

The day after I got mine, I was "killing" one liter empty soft drink

plastic bottles at 25 to 35 yards with iron sights and no modifications.



Sure you were, while carrying eight Cinder blocks with ONE hand.....riiiiiiight.

Just for the fun of it-

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XuXjMXMGvrA?autoplay=1

On 8/29/14 11:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Just for the fun of it-

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XuXjMXMGvrA?autoplay=1



Cool. Nice shirt, too.

On 8/30/14 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:27:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:31:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

... .22LR rifle, PSA has a pretty good sale on these this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/opnxuaq

The $299 price is $50 to $100 less than these usually sell for. Terrific
rifle, very accurate right out of the box, looks and size just like my
standard AR 15 other than the slightly smaller in diameter barrel. Much
more accurate than the more common Ruger .22LR rifles.

Here's a snap of mags from each of the rifles, a 10-round PMAG for my
.223 Rem AR 15, and the 25-round S&W mag for the .22LR

http://tinyurl.com/otkdvot

===

I don't see anything about optics. Does it have a Weaver rail that
will acept a standard scope mount? Can the trigger be customized?

It does say "quad rail" so I assume they mean the forward hand guard
is a quad picatinny rail.
The good news it takes anything "Weaver" but it won't take a regular
.22 "tip off" scope unless you put longer screws on it.

I still do not see the allure of this kind of gun unless you are
channeling some Vietnam war fantasy.


The M&P 15-22 will accept a lot of AR "accessories" without modification
to either. I have a scope I use on mine with an "AR type" mount. The
front and rear sights that come standard with the rifle are the
removable AR sights that slide right on or off the rail. An AR
aftermarket trigger will drop in, as will an AR stock and an AR
handgrip. I changed the handgrip on mine to a Hogue model I like better.
I also installed an ambi safety. I still have the stock trigger, which
seems ok to me.

The "allure" to me was the rifle's light weight, ergonomics, accuracy
out of the box. It's easy for me to shoot it accurately off-hand. You'd
have to spend a lot of money on a Ruger 10/22 to get it to shoot as
accurately off-hand as the M&P 15-22.

There are a ka-zillion different firearms out there. Obviously, allure
is in the mind of the beholder.

On 8/30/14 1:14 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 21:33:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The day after I got mine, I was "killing" one liter empty soft drink
plastic bottles at 25 to 35 yards with iron sights and no modifications.

My 10/22 machine gun could keep all of the shots in the bottom of that
soda bottle at 25 yards, at 1100 RPM (my cop buddy shooting)


Yeah, well, I'm not your "cop buddy" shooting, so I judge a firearm's
accuracy on its innate accuracy and my ability to shoot it accurately.
I'm not a fan of full auto fire. Waste of ammo.

On 8/30/2014 6:37 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
I'm not a fan of full auto fire. Waste of ammo.

Oh! You mean you don't have one yet. You probably couldn't pass the
background check or mental capacity evaluation.

On 8/30/14 7:36 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/30/14 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:27:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:31:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

... .22LR rifle, PSA has a pretty good sale on these this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/opnxuaq

The $299 price is $50 to $100 less than these usually sell for.
Terrific
rifle, very accurate right out of the box, looks and size just like my
standard AR 15 other than the slightly smaller in diameter barrel. Much
more accurate than the more common Ruger .22LR rifles.

Here's a snap of mags from each of the rifles, a 10-round PMAG for my
.223 Rem AR 15, and the 25-round S&W mag for the .22LR

http://tinyurl.com/otkdvot

===

I don't see anything about optics. Does it have a Weaver rail that
will acept a standard scope mount? Can the trigger be customized?

It does say "quad rail" so I assume they mean the forward hand guard
is a quad picatinny rail.
The good news it takes anything "Weaver" but it won't take a regular
.22 "tip off" scope unless you put longer screws on it.

I still do not see the allure of this kind of gun unless you are
channeling some Vietnam war fantasy.


The M&P 15-22 will accept a lot of AR "accessories" without modification
to either. I have a scope I use on mine with an "AR type" mount. The
front and rear sights that come standard with the rifle are the
removable AR sights that slide right on or off the rail. An AR
aftermarket trigger will drop in, as will an AR stock and an AR
handgrip. I changed the handgrip on mine to a Hogue model I like better.
I also installed an ambi safety. I still have the stock trigger, which
seems ok to me.

The "allure" to me was the rifle's light weight, ergonomics, accuracy
out of the box. It's easy for me to shoot it accurately off-hand. You'd
have to spend a lot of money on a Ruger 10/22 to get it to shoot as
accurately off-hand as the M&P 15-22.

There are a ka-zillion different firearms out there. Obviously, allure
is in the mind of the beholder.


Here's a photo of mine:

http://tinyurl.com/m68gjgj

Shows scope, scope mount, Hogue grip, empty 25-round mag (with arrow for
my non-shooting friends..(as in, this part points towards the muzzle
when you load up ), right-hand side of ambi safety (just above and
to rear of trigger). Flash suppressor on barrel muzzle will be removed
when my sound suppressor paperwork comes back (takes two to three
months, I am told). Sometimes I fasten a red dot to the rails.

On 8/30/14 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:49:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Here's a photo of mine:

http://tinyurl.com/m68gjgj

Shows scope, scope mount, Hogue grip, empty 25-round mag (with arrow for
my non-shooting friends..(as in, this part points towards the muzzle
when you load up ), right-hand side of ambi safety (just above and
to rear of trigger). Flash suppressor on barrel muzzle will be removed
when my sound suppressor paperwork comes back (takes two to three
months, I am told). Sometimes I fasten a red dot to the rails.



I thought the people republic of Maryland was limiting you to 10 round
magazines these days.


It's a weird reg. You can't legally buy mags larger than 10 rounds here,
*but* if you buy them in another state, you can legally bring them into
Maryland and use them. At the moment, I only have a couple of 10-round
PMAGs for my AR-15. I like to shoot it deliberately, and if I have a
really large mag in there, I tend to want to shoot more quickly. Also,
the "short" mags are easier to shoot off a bench.

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds

===

An AR-15 should be very effective against alligators and wild boars.

On 8/30/14 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

It's a weird reg. You can't legally buy mags larger than 10 rounds here,
*but* if you buy them in another state, you can legally bring them into
Maryland and use them.

Good thing you are close to Virginia huh?


Indeed. My dentist and our favorite Vietnamese restaurant are in Fairfax
County.