On 8/30/14 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:49:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Here's a photo of mine:

http://tinyurl.com/m68gjgj

Shows scope, scope mount, Hogue grip, empty 25-round mag (with arrow for
my non-shooting friends..(as in, this part points towards the muzzle
when you load up ), right-hand side of ambi safety (just above and
to rear of trigger). Flash suppressor on barrel muzzle will be removed
when my sound suppressor paperwork comes back (takes two to three
months, I am told). Sometimes I fasten a red dot to the rails.



I thought the people republic of Maryland was limiting you to 10 round
magazines these days.


It's a weird reg. You can't legally buy mags larger than 10 rounds here,
*but* if you buy them in another state, you can legally bring them into
Maryland and use them. At the moment, I only have a couple of 10-round
PMAGs for my AR-15. I like to shoot it deliberately, and if I have a
really large mag in there, I tend to want to shoot more quickly. Also,
the "short" mags are easier to shoot off a bench.

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

On 8/30/14 1:10 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

It's a weird reg. You can't legally buy mags larger than 10 rounds here,
*but* if you buy them in another state, you can legally bring them into
Maryland and use them.

Good thing you are close to Virginia huh?


Indeed. My dentist and our favorite Vietnamese restaurant are in Fairfax
County.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds

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An AR-15 should be very effective against alligators and wild boars.

On 8/30/14 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds


Right, because everyone knows a 30-30 or .308 won't inflict grievous
wounds. I like the AR platform because the rifles are easy to customize
and maintain, and, for me, at least, they are accurate enough and, of
course, I only inflict "grievous wounds" on plastic and aluminum bottles
and cans and paper target. Besides, .308 ammo, American-made in brass
casings, is twice as expensive or more than brass-cased U.S.-made .223
REM ammo, and 30-30 Win is even more expensive.

On 8/30/2014 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds

I wonder what Harry's need for or attraction to military weaponry is?
Back in the sixties when Uncle Sam would have appreciated him picking up
a gun and serving his country, Harry preferred to seek a scholars
deferment to attend a third rate school for girls in, of all places, Kansas.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:14:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully
assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,
however, buy a fully assembled lower.

I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds

Amen.

Consider the circles in which Krause travels. A gun like that makes him one of the 'big boys'.

wrote:
On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:42:08 -0400, BAR wrote:



I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.
I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.
I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600
rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds

There is always the AR-15's Daddy, the AR-10.

That is just taking an inferior idea and expanding to a Russian
slightly better idea. Look at the sturmgewehr, where this reduced
power round came from.

Buy an M1A and get on with your life ... out to 1000 yards.

The original AR was a 308. That is what the AR-10 is. Is nice with every
thing in line with the shoulder to reduce climb between shots.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/30/14 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:27:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:31:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

... .22LR rifle, PSA has a pretty good sale on these this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/opnxuaq

The $299 price is $50 to $100 less than these usually sell for.
Terrific
rifle, very accurate right out of the box, looks and size just like my
standard AR 15 other than the slightly smaller in diameter barrel.
Much
more accurate than the more common Ruger .22LR rifles.

Here's a snap of mags from each of the rifles, a 10-round PMAG for my
.223 Rem AR 15, and the 25-round S&W mag for the .22LR

http://tinyurl.com/otkdvot

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I don't see anything about optics. Does it have a Weaver rail that
will acept a standard scope mount? Can the trigger be customized?

It does say "quad rail" so I assume they mean the forward hand guard
is a quad picatinny rail.
The good news it takes anything "Weaver" but it won't take a regular
.22 "tip off" scope unless you put longer screws on it.

I still do not see the allure of this kind of gun unless you are
channeling some Vietnam war fantasy.


The M&P 15-22 will accept a lot of AR "accessories" without
modification to either. I have a scope I use on mine with an "AR type"
mount. The front and rear sights that come standard with the rifle are
the removable AR sights that slide right on or off the rail. An AR
aftermarket trigger will drop in, as will an AR stock and an AR
handgrip. I changed the handgrip on mine to a Hogue model I like
better. I also installed an ambi safety. I still have the stock
trigger, which seems ok to me.

The "allure" to me was the rifle's light weight, ergonomics, accuracy
out of the box. It's easy for me to shoot it accurately off-hand.
You'd have to spend a lot of money on a Ruger 10/22 to get it to shoot
as accurately off-hand as the M&P 15-22.

There are a ka-zillion different firearms out there. Obviously, allure
is in the mind of the beholder.

It certainly is.

On 8/29/14 1:31 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
... .22LR rifle, PSA has a pretty good sale on these this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/opnxuaq

The $299 price is $50 to $100 less than these usually sell for. Terrific
rifle, very accurate right out of the box, looks and size just like my
standard AR 15 other than the slightly smaller in diameter barrel. Much
more accurate than the more common Ruger .22LR rifles.

Here's a snap of mags from each of the rifles, a 10-round PMAG for my
.223 Rem AR 15, and the 25-round S&W mag for the .22LR

http://tinyurl.com/otkdvot


Whoops. Forgot to attach a vid of it being displayed and used. There are
lots of them on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXkEPD7pyXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fvZBQNq3_c


I have a red dot I've had kicking around for years on mine, and I
alternate it with a scope.

F*O*A*D wrote:
... .22LR rifle, PSA has a pretty good sale on these this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/opnxuaq

The $299 price is $50 to $100 less than these usually sell for. Terrific
rifle, very accurate right out of the box, looks and size just like my
standard AR 15 other than the slightly smaller in diameter barrel. Much
more accurate than the more common Ruger .22LR rifles.

Here's a snap of mags from each of the rifles, a 10-round PMAG for my
.223 Rem AR 15, and the 25-round S&W mag for the .22LR

http://tinyurl.com/otkdvot

Why buy so many weapons? Gun nut? I just bought an M&P AR 5.56. Pick up
next week after the 10 day waiting period. First firearm I have bought in
30 years or so