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On Sunday, August 31, 2014 5:15:09 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/31/14 3:28 AM, Califbill wrote:

wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:16:49 -0500, Harrold wrote:



On 8/30/2014 12:14 PM, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully

assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,

however, buy a fully assembled lower.



I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.

I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.

I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600

rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds



I wonder what Harry's need for or attraction to military weaponry is?

Back in the sixties when Uncle Sam would have appreciated him picking up

a gun and serving his country, Harry preferred to seek a scholars

deferment to attend a third rate school for girls in, of all places, Kansas.



My point exactly. He could have stepped up and they would have given

him a M16-A1 and let him shoot gooks with it. Now he lives that life

vicariously shooting Evian bottles.



He would have been one of two things in the service. Clerk, or paper

pusher or cannon fodder. That liberal arts degree would not get a skilled

position. Why I got to fix radar on airplanes instead of jungle fighting.

Had skills that counted.







D'oh. I felt no desire to "serve" the brutal right-wing dictatorship in

Vietnam, or the equally corrupt pols who followed in its footsteps.



I think it is nice that you and Fretwell managed to avoid the shooting

war by hiding out fixing radar and cruising on coast guard ships.

FlaJim, of course, also avoided the shooting war. Brave boys, all of your,


"Brave boys, all of your,?"

The writer Krause is up for another Pulitzer!

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On 9/2/2014 3:14 AM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Sunday, August 31, 2014 5:15:09 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/31/14 3:28 AM, Califbill wrote:

wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:16:49 -0500, Harrold wrote:



On 8/30/2014 12:14 PM, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:00:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Another of our weird regs concerns AR-15s. If you buy one fully

assembled, it has to be one of only a couple of HBAR models. You can,

however, buy a fully assembled lower.



I guess I just never had the "black gun" thing.

I like wood and full power 30 cal if I am buying a center fire rifle.

I understand the attraction for the military but I am not packing 600

rounds into a fire fight, nor is my intent to inflict grievous wounds



I wonder what Harry's need for or attraction to military weaponry is?

Back in the sixties when Uncle Sam would have appreciated him picking up

a gun and serving his country, Harry preferred to seek a scholars

deferment to attend a third rate school for girls in, of all places, Kansas.



My point exactly. He could have stepped up and they would have given

him a M16-A1 and let him shoot gooks with it. Now he lives that life

vicariously shooting Evian bottles.



He would have been one of two things in the service. Clerk, or paper

pusher or cannon fodder. That liberal arts degree would not get a skilled

position. Why I got to fix radar on airplanes instead of jungle fighting.

Had skills that counted.







D'oh. I felt no desire to "serve" the brutal right-wing dictatorship in

Vietnam, or the equally corrupt pols who followed in its footsteps.



I think it is nice that you and Fretwell managed to avoid the shooting

war by hiding out fixing radar and cruising on coast guard ships.

FlaJim, of course, also avoided the shooting war. Brave boys, all of your,


"Brave boys, all of your,?"

The writer Krause is up for another Pulitzer!


He acquired his language skills from Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, two
men of the cloth who sound like ghetto folk.

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On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:51:10 AM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:


Cites, please.

Kevin? Is that you?

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On 9/2/14 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:51:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



What percentage of our troops over there are carrying and shooting high
caliber rifles,

I think you have totally missed the point. We were just trying to say
the 7.62x51 was more capable at long range than the 5.56,

You are the one who tried to make this a conversation about why most
of the soldiers are still issued AR variants. I doubt more than 30 or
40% ever actually shoot at anyone anyway.


I neither missed the point nor argued that one rifle is "more capable"
than the other, although I did argue that the AR was more capable than
the AK because it was more accurate.

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On 9/2/14 1:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:20:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/2/14 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:51:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



What percentage of our troops over there are carrying and shooting high
caliber rifles,

I think you have totally missed the point. We were just trying to say
the 7.62x51 was more capable at long range than the 5.56,

You are the one who tried to make this a conversation about why most
of the soldiers are still issued AR variants. I doubt more than 30 or
40% ever actually shoot at anyone anyway.


I neither missed the point nor argued that one rifle is "more capable"
than the other, although I did argue that the AR was more capable than
the AK because it was more accurate.

You have never heard me say much about the AK. It is a tool for
peasant warriors in 3d world countries. Most of their targets will be
less capably armed.
It is interesting that the Soviet army made the choice to go with a
5.45 MM round in the AK74 (the rifle you saw Bin Laden carrying)
The tip off is the orange magazine.


I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

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On 9/2/14 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:55:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

When did we become such sissies? The M1 weighed about 10 pounds and
the skinny kids in the 40s had no problem carrying them across most of
Europe and the Pacific islands.
I carried one most of the day in boot camp, including during
calisthenics (PDUA). Do some situps holding this over your head and it
will put hair on your chest.
My M1A is about the same depending on which magazine I have in it.
With a 30 round it is probably over 11 pounds.
I am not sure I would want it much lighter shooting 7.62 NATO rounds.


I think my AR-15 weighs about 7.5 pounds with a 10-round mag and the
scope atop it. I don't have it tricked out with lots of rails and
attachments. I'd like to remove the forward sight/gas block, though, and
replace the stock handguard, which is kind of thick, with a thinner
single rail system that would also conceal the gas block. I don't think
I'd enjoy lugging around a rifle any heavier than what I have
now...certainly not for offhand shooting.

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/2/14 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:55:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

When did we become such sissies? The M1 weighed about 10 pounds and
the skinny kids in the 40s had no problem carrying them across most of
Europe and the Pacific islands.
I carried one most of the day in boot camp, including during
calisthenics (PDUA). Do some situps holding this over your head and it
will put hair on your chest.
My M1A is about the same depending on which magazine I have in it.
With a 30 round it is probably over 11 pounds.
I am not sure I would want it much lighter shooting 7.62 NATO rounds.


I think my AR-15 weighs about 7.5 pounds with a 10-round mag and the
scope atop it. I don't have it tricked out with lots of rails and
attachments. I'd like to remove the forward sight/gas block, though, and
replace the stock handguard, which is kind of thick, with a thinner
single rail system that would also conceal the gas block. I don't think
I'd enjoy lugging around a rifle any heavier than what I have
now...certainly not for offhand shooting.

Because you are an out of shape wimp? Lots of 10 pound rifles are hauled
around all day during hunting season. As as Gregg stated, lots of M1's
were hauled all around Europe and on island landings in the Pacific.

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/2/14 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:51:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



What percentage of our troops over there are carrying and shooting high
caliber rifles,

I think you have totally missed the point. We were just trying to say
the 7.62x51 was more capable at long range than the 5.56,

You are the one who tried to make this a conversation about why most
of the soldiers are still issued AR variants. I doubt more than 30 or
40% ever actually shoot at anyone anyway.


I neither missed the point nor argued that one rifle is "more capable"
than the other, although I did argue that the AR was more capable than
the AK because it was more accurate.

And the question was never which of the two was more capable.

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On 9/2/14 3:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/2/14 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:55:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

When did we become such sissies? The M1 weighed about 10 pounds and
the skinny kids in the 40s had no problem carrying them across most of
Europe and the Pacific islands.
I carried one most of the day in boot camp, including during
calisthenics (PDUA). Do some situps holding this over your head and it
will put hair on your chest.
My M1A is about the same depending on which magazine I have in it.
With a 30 round it is probably over 11 pounds.
I am not sure I would want it much lighter shooting 7.62 NATO rounds.


I think my AR-15 weighs about 7.5 pounds with a 10-round mag and the
scope atop it. I don't have it tricked out with lots of rails and
attachments. I'd like to remove the forward sight/gas block, though, and
replace the stock handguard, which is kind of thick, with a thinner
single rail system that would also conceal the gas block. I don't think
I'd enjoy lugging around a rifle any heavier than what I have
now...certainly not for offhand shooting.

Because you are an out of shape wimp? Lots of 10 pound rifles are hauled
around all day during hunting season. As as Gregg stated, lots of M1's
were hauled all around Europe and on island landings in the Pacific.



Do you know what the term "offhand shooting" means, Bilious? It means no
hunting stick, no bipod, no support on a tree limb, no rest on a
shooting bag. It means standing up, holding the rifle to your shoulder
and shooting it. Most modern hunting rifles weigh eight pounds or less,
not the 10+ pounds a tricked out AR-10 would weigh.

What the hell would a great white hunter like you be going after in this
country where he would require a big, heavy, rifle to shoot offhand? My
lever action rifle will easily drop a deer and it weighs about 6.5 pounds.

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On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:50:28 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:51:10 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



What percentage of our troops over there are carrying and shooting high
caliber rifles,

I think you have totally missed the point. We were just trying to say
the 7.62x51 was more capable at long range than the 5.56,

You are the one who tried to make this a conversation about why most
of the soldiers are still issued AR variants. I doubt more than 30 or
40% ever actually shoot at anyone anyway.

===

And most of them were providing covering fire with no really specific
point of aim.

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On 9/2/2014 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:55:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

When did we become such sissies? The M1 weighed about 10 pounds and
the skinny kids in the 40s had no problem carrying them across most of
Europe and the Pacific islands.
I carried one most of the day in boot camp, including during
calisthenics (PDUA). Do some situps holding this over your head and it
will put hair on your chest.
My M1A is about the same depending on which magazine I have in it.
With a 30 round it is probably over 11 pounds.
I am not sure I would want it much lighter shooting 7.62 NATO rounds.



What was that exercise routine called using a M1? 96 Count Manual or
something like that. It was a series of exercises done to the beat of
some John Phillips Sousa march played through a PA system. I remember
that after 4 or 5 iterations your arms felt like lead.

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On 9/2/14 3:49 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:21:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

What the hell would a great white hunter like you be going after in this
country where he would require a big, heavy, rifle to shoot offhand? My
lever action rifle will easily drop a deer and it weighs about 6.5 pounds.


I bet your .357 carbine does not meet the minimum ME for taking a deer
in Maryland.
My .44 barely made it and you needed hotter than normal ammo.
I did know a game warden up there who said more deer were taken with a
22rf than any other caliber but it was at night, at close range with a
spot light.
I am sure your .357 would kill a deer eventually but you might be
following a blood trail in the woods for a while.
I have no interest in killing a deer these days but when I did, I
wanted them to hit the ground dead, not run around wounded for a
while. The adrenaline screws up the meat.



My .357 rifle won't be killing any deer so long as I own it. I don't
shoot critters. I have read, though, a number of articles on the potency
of the .357 round when fired through a rifle. It almost matches the
..30-.30 up to 100 yards.

I understand the .357 round, however, is the perfect tamer for rampaging
tea party zombies. :)

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/2/14 3:49 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:21:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

What the hell would a great white hunter like you be going after in this
country where he would require a big, heavy, rifle to shoot offhand? My
lever action rifle will easily drop a deer and it weighs about 6.5 pounds.


I bet your .357 carbine does not meet the minimum ME for taking a deer
in Maryland.
My .44 barely made it and you needed hotter than normal ammo.
I did know a game warden up there who said more deer were taken with a
22rf than any other caliber but it was at night, at close range with a
spot light.
I am sure your .357 would kill a deer eventually but you might be
following a blood trail in the woods for a while.
I have no interest in killing a deer these days but when I did, I
wanted them to hit the ground dead, not run around wounded for a
while. The adrenaline screws up the meat.



My .357 rifle won't be killing any deer so long as I own it. I don't
shoot critters. I have read, though, a number of articles on the potency
of the .357 round when fired through a rifle. It almost matches the
.30-.30 up to 100 yards.

I understand the .357 round, however, is the perfect tamer for rampaging
tea party zombies. :)

A 30-30 is actually a minimum deer round. Ok if in short ranges.

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On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 5:40:23 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/2/14 3:49 PM, wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:21:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



What the hell would a great white hunter like you be going after in this

country where he would require a big, heavy, rifle to shoot offhand? My

lever action rifle will easily drop a deer and it weighs about 6.5 pounds.





I bet your .357 carbine does not meet the minimum ME for taking a deer

in Maryland.

My .44 barely made it and you needed hotter than normal ammo.

I did know a game warden up there who said more deer were taken with a

22rf than any other caliber but it was at night, at close range with a

spot light.

I am sure your .357 would kill a deer eventually but you might be

following a blood trail in the woods for a while.

I have no interest in killing a deer these days but when I did, I

wanted them to hit the ground dead, not run around wounded for a

while. The adrenaline screws up the meat.







My .357 rifle won't be killing any deer so long as I own it. I don't

shoot critters. I have read, though, a number of articles on the potency

of the .357 round when fired through a rifle. It almost matches the

.30-.30 up to 100 yards.



I understand the .357 round, however, is the perfect tamer for rampaging

tea party zombies. :)



A 30-30 is actually a minimum deer round. Ok if in short ranges.

Correct. We call a 30-30 a bush rifle, good for deer stands back in the woods. When hunting an open field, you want more than that. I haven't hunted in a few years, but my last deer was taken at 150 yds with a Ruger M77 stainless in 270 Winchester caliber. An 8 point that dropped in his tracks.

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On 9/2/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:12:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/2/2014 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 13:55:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I've "handled" and shot a Colt LE 901. Damned thing weighed more than 10
pounds with a mag and all the usual "tactical" crapola on it. Not a
rifle to be shot off hand.

When did we become such sissies? The M1 weighed about 10 pounds and
the skinny kids in the 40s had no problem carrying them across most of
Europe and the Pacific islands.
I carried one most of the day in boot camp, including during
calisthenics (PDUA). Do some situps holding this over your head and it
will put hair on your chest.
My M1A is about the same depending on which magazine I have in it.
With a 30 round it is probably over 11 pounds.
I am not sure I would want it much lighter shooting 7.62 NATO rounds.



What was that exercise routine called using a M1? 96 Count Manual or
something like that. It was a series of exercises done to the beat of
some John Phillips Sousa march played through a PA system. I remember
that after 4 or 5 iterations your arms felt like lead.


They just called it PDUA for us. (Physical Drill Under Arms)
It made you look forward to the regular, before breakfast, PE.
We didn't get any music either, just a first class boatswains mate
yelling at us.
I don't remember most of the exercises but the situps still put a knot
in my stomach ;-)

Most of it was just lifting the rifle over your head from different
positions.


I just tried googling it. It *was* called the "96 Count Manual" but I
couldn't find any examples or videos of it. Apparently it is no longer
done in boot camp.

All I remember was the march music playing and you lifted that rifle
over your head three times, then straight out 3 times, then to the left,
the right, down and whatever ... over and over and over until you
reached the count of 96. Then you started all over again. After a
half hour (or more if your company commander was sadistic) it got tough
to lift the damn thing over your head.

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wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:40:23 -0500, Califbill
wrote:


A 30-30 is actually a minimum deer round. Ok if in short ranges.

It is really academic for Harry anyway. First he is not a hunter and
second, even he was, he can't use a rifle in his county anyway ... or
any nearby. They are shotgun bow or muzzle loader only.

Rifles are OK for zombies. 😀
--
Posted from my iPhone

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On 9/2/2014 7:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:44:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I just tried googling it. It *was* called the "96 Count Manual" but I
couldn't find any examples or videos of it. Apparently it is no longer
done in boot camp.

All I remember was the march music playing and you lifted that rifle
over your head three times, then straight out 3 times, then to the left,
the right, down and whatever ... over and over and over until you
reached the count of 96. Then you started all over again. After a
half hour (or more if your company commander was sadistic) it got tough
to lift the damn thing over your head.

The one we had close to that was "high port", basically double time
with your rifle over your head.



We called that the "goon squad".

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On 9/2/2014 10:27 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 20:25:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/2/2014 7:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:44:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I just tried googling it. It *was* called the "96 Count Manual" but I
couldn't find any examples or videos of it. Apparently it is no longer
done in boot camp.

All I remember was the march music playing and you lifted that rifle
over your head three times, then straight out 3 times, then to the left,
the right, down and whatever ... over and over and over until you
reached the count of 96. Then you started all over again. After a
half hour (or more if your company commander was sadistic) it got tough
to lift the damn thing over your head.

The one we had close to that was "high port", basically double time
with your rifle over your head.



We called that the "goon squad".

This wasn't a punishment. The whole company was doing it.
I was not sure why but they put a lot of emphasis on PT. I guess it
was because we spent a lot of classroom time and they wanted to give
us a good workout along the way.

The other one that was more fun was the 26' Monomoy surf boats.
It was a heavy assed wood row boat that we took out in the ocean off
Cape May in the winter.
I managed to work myself up to coxswain right away because I could
remember all the commands and knew when to use them. We usually had an
E-4 on board making sure we didn't do anything too dumb
In the end I was commanding my own boat..
Lugging those boats down the beach was still a chore tho. It was still
more fun than just doing calisthenics.

The amazing thing was how low our failure rate was. If you failed to
advance, each week, you had to start over (no getting out easy with a
GD in those days). Nobody in our company or our sister company failed.
The rumor was, if you failed twice, they sent you to the army or gave
you a UD.



I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there. And yes, I remember the threat
(maybe just rumor) that if you didn't make it through your were
transferred to the Army. I know a few people didn't make it but I doubt
they were transferred to the Army. They just couldn't deal with the
pressure and flipped out mentally. This was in 1968.

I have two sons and a son-in-law who went through the Navy boot camp
over 20 years later. Very different program by then.

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On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.

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On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

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On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being
almost 10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/14 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.



Watch it, fella...Snotty will have one of his "full patch" motorbike
buddies hold you down so he can fart on your face.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself.... maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord
knows you troll from deeper under a desk than he.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try. And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/14 6:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being
"asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest
fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I
remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog
but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in
any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC
transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed
unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one
guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder
separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have
caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched
some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks
while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the
athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the
morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company
won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you
did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a
couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but
being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes
till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from
what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers
decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like
that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you
troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed
around.
Dip****!




I don't recall saying you were too lazy for college. Too stupid, surely.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 6:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being
"asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest
fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I
remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog
but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in
any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC
transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed
unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one
guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder
separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have
caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched
some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks
while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the
athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the
morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company
won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you
did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a
couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but
being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes
till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from
what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers
decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like
that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you
troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed
around.
Dip****!




I don't recall saying you were too lazy for college. Too stupid, surely.

****, most with effort can get a degree. Maybe not a science degree, but
some liberal arts major.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 6:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being
"asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest
fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I
remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog
but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in
any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC
transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed
unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one
guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder
separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have
caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched
some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks
while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the
athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the
morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company
won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you
did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a
couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but
being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes
till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from
what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers
decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like
that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you
troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed
around.
Dip****!




I don't recall saying you were too lazy for college. Too stupid, surely.

****, most with effort can get a degree. Maybe not a science degree, but
some liberal arts major.

You are clueless as to what comprises the liberal arts.
--
Posted from my iPhone

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 10:17 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was
being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest
fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I
remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a
dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back"
in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC
transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed
unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost
one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder
separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have
caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched
some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks
while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the
athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the
morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other
company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you
did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a
couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but
being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling
holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from
what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers
decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like
that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit
silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you
troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed
around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my
employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom
who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too
much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the
internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

Besides, it's always interesting to see those who never had to struggle
for anything, they always think those who didn't have it handed to them
must not have worked as hard or been as smart.... Fact is, I built a 2
million dolllar company for a guy in the 5 years after high school, only
to make too much and have him get greedy and push me out for a young kid
who would work for half the price.... But of course, you think mommy
and daddy paying for your beer while the military paid for your college
of course means you are much better then I...LOL...

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:17:56 -0400, KC wrote:

On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

===

So Scot, after you get done insulting everyone in the newsgroup, where
do you go from there?

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

On 9/3/2014 10:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:17:56 -0400, KC wrote:

On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

===

So Scot, after you get done insulting everyone in the newsgroup, where
do you go from there?


What the hell is wrong with you guys? I told a story about my dad, only
to have the bull****ter from cali call my dad names... Is the math there
too hard for you? Lets face it, dick, harry, and now bill do it on
purpose, knowing it will cause pain and start ****.. and you think *I*
am a sick mother ****er? Seriously what is wrong with you?

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 10:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:17:56 -0400, KC wrote:

On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

===

So Scot, after you get done insulting everyone in the newsgroup, where
do you go from there?


What the hell is wrong with you guys? I told a story about my dad, only
to have the bull****ter from cali call my dad names... Is the math there
too hard for you? Lets face it, dick, harry, and now bill do it on
purpose, knowing it will cause pain and start ****.. and you think *I* am
a sick mother ****er? Seriously what is wrong with you?

No, I said your dad was an idiot. And he was for doing **** like that.
Especially if he was 10 years older than the others. I did not say it to
cause you pain. I said it because it was an idiotic thing to do. Maybe
cool in some TV sitcom, but not in real life. He should have developed
some common sense in those 10 years.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 10:17 PM, KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was
being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest
fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I
remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a
dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back"
in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC
transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed
unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost
one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder
separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have
caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched
some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks
while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the
athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the
morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other
company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you
did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a
couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but
being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him)
took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear
gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story
of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling
holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from
what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers
decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like
that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit
silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it
yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you
troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed
around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my
employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom
who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too
much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the
internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my
experience....

Besides, it's always interesting to see those who never had to struggle
for anything, they always think those who didn't have it handed to them
must not have worked as hard or been as smart.... Fact is, I built a 2
million dolllar company for a guy in the 5 years after high school, only
to make too much and have him get greedy and push me out for a young kid
who would work for half the price.... But of course, you think mommy
and daddy paying for your beer while the military paid for your college
of course means you are much better then I...LOL...

You worked for a guy building a multi million dollar company. You did not
build it! And I worked during high school, I worked as a kid for my
allowance. Mom never bought my beer. Mom never bought me a car. Mom
bought me clothes and food and took care of mental I graduated HS. Then I
paid for my cars, food, insurance, etc. you try to justify diddly squat.
Maybe if you had studied, you would not have been forced out at a software
company. Maybe you can of actually started and built something.

If you are looking for a terrific...
 

KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 9/3/2014 1:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/3/2014 11:42 AM, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:33:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I recall the term for being sent back in training was being "asswalled"
or "azwalled" or something like that. It was my biggest fear and it
usually happened because you got sick or injured. I remember doing PT
sessions while running a high fever and being sick as a dog but I
refused to go to sick bay in fear of having to "go back" in any of the
training. All I wanted was out of there.

===

That's all any of us wanted. I was in basic with a NYC transit cop
who took the final PT exam while he was sick. He collapsed unconcious
after completing the mile run and we never saw him again.

1965, Air Force was not physically as hard. We only lost one guy, and he
got a medical discharge. Doing push ups he got a shoulder separation. He
had them before, and the pre induction physical should have caught the
defect he was ttold, we marched. And marched. And marched some more.
Besides running, and running and running and jumping jacks while a cyborg
led us. Had to be a cyborg , as he never tired.


When I went through boot camp the various companies competed for
"flags". Our company commander was intent on winning the athletic flag
so we did a lot of PT drills, usually first thing in the morning and
after dinner at night. Still didn't work. Some other company won the flag.

We could test out of a lot of the "off schedule" PT.
If you could do the 25 pushups, 30 situps and 10 pull ups, you did not
need to go to the fat body sessions.
They doubled that before we graduated
We still did plenty in the course of a normal day tho.
Most of it was more along the lines of "cardio" than strength
training. They said it was just to get our blood going after a couple
hours in class.


Somebody (I suspect my dad was right in the middle of it but being almost
10 years older than other recruits they all looked up to him) took the
guts out of the officers gasmask before bivwack. They got tear gassed
that night, my dad still roared with laughter telling the story of the
sarge flying out of camp with no mask driving a jeep....:0

Anyway, nobody tattled so they ended up digging and filling holes till
someone gave up. They never gave him up and they dug holes from what I
can tell for probably a week and a half until the officers decided it
wasn't productive....

Why would someone look up to an idiot like your dad? **** like that is
asking for penalties!


**** you you silver spoon piece of ****..

**** you you stupid ass. Your dad was an idiot to do crap like that.
Apple did not fall far. And I earned my money, did not inherit silver
spoon.


Sorry dude, you brag about it too much to have worked for it yourself....
maybe you got it off the backs of others like harry, lord knows you troll
from deeper under a desk than he.

I worked my way through college. You were to lazy to try.

Wow, you are pulling a harry, you don't have any idea about my younger
years, but you are arrogant, already went over that...
And I am
comfortable. Worked hard in the computer design world. You lazed around.
Dip****!


Bull****. I worked and went to school part time. Just like Richard did.
He used the GI Bill, I used partial tuition reimbursement from my employer.
A college graduate makes on average twice what a high school graduate
earns in a lifetime. An electronic Engineering degree leads to higher
paying jobs than most degrees. What is your excuse? You had a mom who was
supposedly educated. Why did you fail? Too much time partying? Too much
time trying to run an internet company, with no training? Sounds like my
nephew. He thinks he is a world class guru on computers and the internet.
He is a bum. Who is going to pay someone who claims expertise, but no
degree, no certificates, etc. big bucks to manage their IT? Very, very
few. Infinitesimal!


Sure... and you did it all walking up hill both ways! Lol, just because
your ****ing nephew comes from poor stock, doesn't mean it was my experience....

No, my nephew, is just lazy. High IQ. His dad worked his way through cal
Poly SLO for an engineering degree. My mom was a nurse, and went back for
her degree while working. You?