On 8/28/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You might be able to hold down a job as
a punch-list guy, maybe.


Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you.



I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power
plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a
bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various
high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40
pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad
diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials.

It's simple if you are literate enough to read the instructions.
5 Years apprenticeship to mix mortar. Really?

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:58:32 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 8/28/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You might be able to hold down a job as
a punch-list guy, maybe.


Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you.



I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power
plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a
bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various
high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40
pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad
diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials.

It's simple if you are literate enough to read the instructions.
5 Years apprenticeship to mix mortar. Really?

I can testify to the fact that carrying concrete blocks all day does not require a lick of training
or specialized skill. Buying a bag of mortar and following the mixing directions doesn't take a lot
of skill either, although a little knowledge of the English language may be helpful.

On 8/28/14 6:42 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:58:32 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 8/28/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You might be able to hold down a job as
a punch-list guy, maybe.


Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you.



I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power
plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a
bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various
high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40
pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad
diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials.

It's simple if you are literate enough to read the instructions.
5 Years apprenticeship to mix mortar. Really?

I can testify to the fact that carrying concrete blocks all day does not require a lick of training
or specialized skill. Buying a bag of mortar and following the mixing directions doesn't take a lot
of skill either, although a little knowledge of the English language may be helpful.



You would certainly be the "go to" guy for jobs requiring no useful
skills, but mixing a bag of sakcrete was not what I was describing. And,
actually, carrying or lifting 40 to 50 pound block all day long does
require some training so that you don't injure yourself or others. But,
as I said previously, you don't have the skills to qualify as a hod
carrier.

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:44:41 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:





You would certainly be the "go to" guy for jobs requiring no useful

skills, but mixing a bag of sakcrete was not what I was describing. And,

actually, carrying or lifting 40 to 50 pound block all day long does

require some training so that you don't injure yourself or others. But,

as I said previously, you don't have the skills to qualify as a hod

carrier.

Too bad " blocks " ...DONT weigh 40 to 50 pounds, but I'm sure a Union drudge like you would imagine they do.

wrote:
On Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:44:41 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:




You would certainly be the "go to" guy for jobs requiring no useful

skills, but mixing a bag of sakcrete was not what I was describing. And,

actually, carrying or lifting 40 to 50 pound block all day long does

require some training so that you don't injure yourself or others. But,

as I said previously, you don't have the skills to qualify as a hod

carrier.
Too bad " blocks " ...DONT weigh 40 to 50 pounds, but I'm sure a Union drudge like you would imagine they do.

A standard 8 X 8 X 16 concrete block is closer to 25#.

On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:06:28 PM UTC-4, Roger wrote:

A standard 8 X 8 X 16 concrete block is closer to 25#.

drudge krause would state he could carry eight at a time.....with one hand while re-wiring an Outboard Motor.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 6:42 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:58:32 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 8/28/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You might be able to hold down a job as
a punch-list guy, maybe.


Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you.



I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power
plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a
bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various
high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40
pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad
diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials.

It's simple if you are literate enough to read the instructions.
5 Years apprenticeship to mix mortar. Really?

I can testify to the fact that carrying concrete blocks all day does not
require a lick of training
or specialized skill. Buying a bag of mortar and following the mixing
directions doesn't take a lot
of skill either, although a little knowledge of the English language may be helpful.



You would certainly be the "go to" guy for jobs requiring no useful
skills, but mixing a bag of sakcrete was not what I was describing. And,
actually, carrying or lifting 40 to 50 pound block all day long does
require some training so that you don't injure yourself or others. But,
as I said previously, you don't have the skills to qualify as a hod carrier.

Does not take a union card to be able weld nuclear plant tubes. About 6
months training. My brother did weld on a nuclear plant, and that is after
a couple months navy schooling. He was able to weld before joining the
service, you can go to my local JC and take a 2 year welding course and
get certified. Not union.

On 8/28/2014 7:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 6:42 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:58:32 -0500, Harrold wrote:

On 8/28/2014 2:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/28/14 3:13 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:58:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You might be able to hold down a job as
a punch-list guy, maybe.


Uh huh. You really are clueless about me aren't you.



I don't see you welding tubes and pipes at a pharma lab or nuclear power
plant, or working as a manufacturing plant electrician, or as a
bricklayer knowing the chemistry necessary to mix up and apply various
high strength or high or low temp mortars, or the strength to fling 40
pound concrete block all day, or maintaining and repairing railroad
diesel-electric powerplants, or even how to mitigate hazardous materials.

It's simple if you are literate enough to read the instructions.
5 Years apprenticeship to mix mortar. Really?

I can testify to the fact that carrying concrete blocks all day does not
require a lick of training
or specialized skill. Buying a bag of mortar and following the mixing
directions doesn't take a lot
of skill either, although a little knowledge of the English language may be helpful.



You would certainly be the "go to" guy for jobs requiring no useful
skills, but mixing a bag of sakcrete was not what I was describing. And,
actually, carrying or lifting 40 to 50 pound block all day long does
require some training so that you don't injure yourself or others. But,
as I said previously, you don't have the skills to qualify as a hod carrier.

Does not take a union card to be able weld nuclear plant tubes. About 6
months training. My brother did weld on a nuclear plant, and that is after
a couple months navy schooling. He was able to weld before joining the
service, you can go to my local JC and take a 2 year welding course and
get certified. Not union.


A friend of mine in the 80's was an electrician at nuke plants. He said
the workers there sucked, "you could walk through the openings they left
in concrete walls"...

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:16:20 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:42:51 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:


I can testify to the fact that carrying concrete blocks all day does not require a lick of training
or specialized skill. Buying a bag of mortar and following the mixing directions doesn't take a lot
of skill either, although a little knowledge of the English language may be helpful.

I got a pretty good schooling on laying block when I was building my 3
additions in Maryland. My contractor (and a personal friend) was
teaching his boy the trade and I was just another student/helper on
that job. I mixed mortar, stacked block on the scaffolds and laid
block to the line in the field.
If you get the mortar right, not as easy as it would seem, and you
understand the process, you can learn to lay block to the line pretty
quickly. Laying the piers in the corners and getting everything
started is a trick. Actually going fast only comes with experience.
I still think that a reasonably intelligent person could be a pretty
decent block mason in a summer. Brick may take longer, particularly if
you want to go fast.
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I built the back half of this
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg

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Damn, that shed is built like the proverbial brick sh*t house!

:-)

Nice.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:00:35 -0400, wrote:

I built the back half of this
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg

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Damn, that shed is built like the proverbial brick sh*t house!

:-)

Nice.

The pavers was my wife's idea. Centex threw away 20 driveways worth at
Cedar Glen in the Brooks and I got a bunch of them.
We have them everywhere, except on the ground.

The first thing we built was this fireplace on the lanai. She couldn't
wait until it was finished to try it out
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/JUDYFIR2.jpg\

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You need to delete the back slash after .jpg

We also did the back wall of the garage, where the tiki bar is.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/tikibar.jpg


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Nice signage. :-)

Speaking of technology changes, we're in the middle of Long Island
Sound right now doing about 10 knots westbound. The Manhattan
skyline is just emerging from the water in front of us and it's a
beautiful late summer day up here in the north country.