Pistol grips
 

Some nice looking ones here at a decent price if you're in need.

http://tinyurl.com/k2x9f5n

Pistol grips
 

On 7/24/14, 7:40 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
Some nice looking ones here at a decent price if you're in need.

http://tinyurl.com/k2x9f5n



Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

Pistol grips
 

Nice looking stuff John. Seems kinda pricy to me but I've been out of the market for quite a while so...

Pistol grips
 

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

Pistol grips
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

Whoa, what about his millionaire dad's largest boat business in the northeast and his shopping
center?

I'd be really surprised if Krause ever lowered himself to buy something off Ebay.

Pistol grips
 

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:11:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Nice looking stuff John. Seems kinda pricy to me but I've been out of the market for quite a while so...

Well, I've never bought any grips either, and the local gunsmith said the grips I've got on the Mod
28 are worth some bucks. He said folks will try to get the original grips in exchange for some of
the 'rubberized' ones and then turn around and sell the wooden originals for a couple hundred bucks.
Of course, he may be bull****ting, who knows?

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

I imagine he just thinks anything on Ebay would not be up to his
standards. He wants everyone to go to a local union gun dealer for
everything.

I will say that he certainly seems to buy and sell more guns than
anyone else here. I am surprised he doesn't have to get an FFL, simply
based on his volume.
I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.



Wow...the right-wing jackals are traveling in a pack this morning.

I've bought stuff on eBay, though not a lot lately.
Earlier this week I was shopping for a scout scope, and the three models
that interested me either were the same price or slightly higher in
price than the established, non-eBay dealers. I suppose if I were
looking for used parts for a 1993 outboard motor, eBay would be a good
place to shop. But I'm ordering mine from OpticsPlanet.

Pistol grips are available everywhere, including eBay. That Herring
provided a URL to pistol grips on eBay just means he really has nothing
to post here.

Fancy wood grips are very nice on a fairly high caliber revolver you
don't intend to shoot much. I have a $20 Hogue Tamer Grip on my Ruger
GP100, and it does the job for me.

http://tinyurl.com/nn6gfrs

At the range I use, the guys who are regularly shooting revolvers with a
bit of recoil tend not to use wood grips. They do have the fancy grips
on the "just for show" revolvers they might fire a few shots through.

My rifle has walnut grips, and looks just like this:

http://tinyurl.com/k76k8zr

That's the vendor's photo.

Mine, in my gun vise:

http://tinyurl.com/pp599bm

I'm contemplating buying another rifle, either a Ruger Mini 14 or a
Ruger Mini 30. The only significant difference in the two is the
chambering...the 14 shoots .223 Winchester and the 30 shoots 7.62x39
Russian. The rifle prices are about the same, and the ammo prices, even
though the Russian round is larger and heavier, are pretty close to the
same, and less expensive than the factory .357 MAG ammo I shoot in my
revolver and lever action carbine.

The scout scope will now mount on my lever action rifle, thanks to a new
rail, and will also be the sort of scope I'd need for the Ruger, if I
get one.

And now, back to your regular rec.boats jackals and morons...

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 11:28 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:11:37 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Nice looking stuff John. Seems kinda pricy to me but I've been out of the market for quite a while so...

Well, I've never bought any grips either, and the local gunsmith said the grips I've got on the Mod
28 are worth some bucks. He said folks will try to get the original grips in exchange for some of
the 'rubberized' ones and then turn around and sell the wooden originals for a couple hundred bucks.
Of course, he may be bull****ting, who knows?



I took off the non-cushioned non-fancy Hogue rubber grip that came on my
GP100 and replaced them with a cushioned Hogue grip that looks exactly
the same. $20. Not eBay...Amazon.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 11:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

Whoa, what about his millionaire dad's largest boat business in the northeast and his shopping
center?

I'd be really surprised if Krause ever lowered himself to buy something off Ebay.


More bull**** from the conservative jackals...

My dad did not have anywhere near the "largest boat business" in his
area. He was for several years in the 1950s, however, the largest
retailer in New England of Evinrude outboard motors. That was in the
days of protected dealer franchises.

The "shopping center" was and is a strip mall.

What did your daddy do, Herring?

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:26:45 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

I imagine he just thinks anything on Ebay would not be up to his
standards. He wants everyone to go to a local union gun dealer for
everything.

I will say that he certainly seems to buy and sell more guns than
anyone else here. I am surprised he doesn't have to get an FFL, simply
based on his volume.
I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

Liberals don't seem to tag other liberals much, no matter what they do or say.

Pistol grips
 

On Friday, July 25, 2014 11:25:57 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:

I'd be really surprised if Krause ever lowered himself to buy something off Ebay.

Why? He lowers his cock into donnies mouth daily.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or keeps.

Pistol grips
 

In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:09:17 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.

Like I say, liberals don't tag liberals.

What a joke!

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 3:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.


I don't have any resistance to serious gun regulations. I don't think
current gun regulations generally are nearly strict enough, and I live
in a state considered to have fairly strict gun regulations. The
neighboring state of Virginia, sadly, has extremely lax gun regulations,
especially as they pertain to private sale and transfer of firearms.

Pistol grips
 

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


You know, Tim, you presented a good source of data. Maryland's murder rate, 6.3 per 100K, isn't
quite double Virginia's 3.8, but darn close.

What makes Krause's comment even more ludicrous is a comparison of Maryland's rate to the top ten
lax gun control states, to wit: Alaska, Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kentucky, Montana, New Mexico,
Texas, Utah and Wyoming. None of those states approach Maryland, land of liberal inspired gun laws,
in their murder rates. http://weapons.about.com/od/gunlaws/...dly-states.htm

I wonder why? Hell, even Illinois, land of the most beloved of liberal gun control laws, has a
higher murder rate than that unconscionably lax Virginia.

Kinda makes you wonder if the **** being spewed is, well, ****.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 10:18 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be
interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

I imagine he just thinks anything on Ebay would not be up to his
standards. He wants everyone to go to a local union gun dealer for
everything.

I will say that he certainly seems to buy and sell more guns than
anyone else here. I am surprised he doesn't have to get an FFL, simply
based on his volume.
I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.



Wow...the right-wing jackals are traveling in a pack this morning.

I've bought stuff on eBay, though not a lot lately.
Earlier this week I was shopping for a scout scope, and the three models
that interested me either were the same price or slightly higher in
price than the established, non-eBay dealers. I suppose if I were
looking for used parts for a 1993 outboard motor, eBay would be a good
place to shop. But I'm ordering mine from OpticsPlanet.

Pistol grips are available everywhere, including eBay. That Herring
provided a URL to pistol grips on eBay just means he really has nothing
to post here.

Fancy wood grips are very nice on a fairly high caliber revolver you
don't intend to shoot much. I have a $20 Hogue Tamer Grip on my Ruger
GP100, and it does the job for me.

http://tinyurl.com/nn6gfrs

At the range I use, the guys who are regularly shooting revolvers with a
bit of recoil tend not to use wood grips. They do have the fancy grips
on the "just for show" revolvers they might fire a few shots through.

My rifle has walnut grips, and looks just like this:

http://tinyurl.com/k76k8zr

That's the vendor's photo.

Mine, in my gun vise:

http://tinyurl.com/pp599bm

I'm contemplating buying another rifle, either a Ruger Mini 14 or a
Ruger Mini 30. The only significant difference in the two is the
chambering...the 14 shoots .223 Winchester and the 30 shoots 7.62x39
Russian. The rifle prices are about the same, and the ammo prices, even
though the Russian round is larger and heavier, are pretty close to the
same, and less expensive than the factory .357 MAG ammo I shoot in my
revolver and lever action carbine.

The scout scope will now mount on my lever action rifle, thanks to a new
rail, and will also be the sort of scope I'd need for the Ruger, if I
get one.

And now, back to your regular rec.boats jackals and morons...




So says the self made up man.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 10:23 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 11:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be
interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

Whoa, what about his millionaire dad's largest boat business in the
northeast and his shopping
center?

I'd be really surprised if Krause ever lowered himself to buy
something off Ebay.


More bull**** from the conservative jackals...

My dad did not have anywhere near the "largest boat business" in his
area. He was for several years in the 1950s, however, the largest
retailer in New England of Evinrude outboard motors. That was in the
days of protected dealer franchises.

The "shopping center" was and is a strip mall.

What did your daddy do, Herring?

Getting kinda personal aren't you, Mr. self made up man?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 11:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:26:45 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

I imagine he just thinks anything on Ebay would not be up to his
standards. He wants everyone to go to a local union gun dealer for
everything.

I will say that he certainly seems to buy and sell more guns than
anyone else here. I am surprised he doesn't have to get an FFL, simply
based on his volume.
I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

Liberals don't seem to tag other liberals much, no matter what they do or say.

Never the less, Mr. self made up man is quite the tagger.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 1:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 3:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or
keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.


I don't have any resistance to serious gun regulations. I don't think
current gun regulations generally are nearly strict enough, and I live
in a state considered to have fairly strict gun regulations. The
neighboring state of Virginia, sadly, has extremely lax gun regulations,
especially as they pertain to private sale and transfer of firearms.
There are enough gun regulations on the books to deal with the criminal
element. Liberal judges are preventing justice from being done.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 2:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha

Harry's state has more low life that need murdering.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:46:53 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/25/2014 10:23 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 11:25 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:10:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Krausebag wrote: Wowser...ebay has pistol grips. Imagine that.

The even have fake Yale diplomas on the off chance that you might be
interested.

===

Harry is a self made man, a legend in his own mind.

Whoa, what about his millionaire dad's largest boat business in the
northeast and his shopping
center?

I'd be really surprised if Krause ever lowered himself to buy
something off Ebay.


More bull**** from the conservative jackals...

My dad did not have anywhere near the "largest boat business" in his
area. He was for several years in the 1950s, however, the largest
retailer in New England of Evinrude outboard motors. That was in the
days of protected dealer franchises.

The "shopping center" was and is a strip mall.

What did your daddy do, Herring?

Getting kinda personal aren't you, Mr. self made up man?

He's just lookin' for a response. Poor guy.

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:58:56 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/25/2014 1:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 3:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or
keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.


I don't have any resistance to serious gun regulations. I don't think
current gun regulations generally are nearly strict enough, and I live
in a state considered to have fairly strict gun regulations. The
neighboring state of Virginia, sadly, has extremely lax gun regulations,
especially as they pertain to private sale and transfer of firearms.

There are enough gun regulations on the books to deal with the criminal
element. Liberal judges are preventing justice from being done.

I'm waiting for his response to Tim's post. Should be enlightening, as are most of Krause's posts.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010
as Maryland (293)?

Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.

There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss
the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"
and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia
has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone
can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Cause there are too many assholes like krause there..

Pistol grips
 

On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha





Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 2:50 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or keeps.




Wayne LaPierre agrees with you.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/14, 8:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:25:59 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010
as Maryland (293)?

Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.

Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?


There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss
the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"
and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia
has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone
can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.


All of those sales are illegal. Do you think that more laws would fix
it?


Are they? Apparently sales between individuals in Virginia are not
regulated. When I sold my SIG some years ago to a Virginia buyer, I
called the Virginia state police and was told point blank they didn't care.

This was the Virginia law a few years ago:


http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm

What are the laws concerning the private sale of a handgun?

To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard
information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm
was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make,
model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a
handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs.
Additionally, Virginia’s handgun purchase limitation applies in private
transactions. Refer to http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Mul ...
chase.shtm for additional information on multiple handgun purchases.
Should the firearm ever be located at a crime scene, trace of the
firearm will determine the licensed dealer who last sold the firearm and
will identify the last buyer of the firearm. To have your name removed
from this process, you may consider placing your firearm on consignment
with a licensed dealer. This will also ensure that the firearm is
transferred only to a lawfully eligible individual.


Read mo
http://vagunforum.net/virginia-laws/...#ixzz38WztUrc4

You can be sure the non-dealers selling out of the back of their cars at
Virginia gun shows aren't verifying the statehood of their buyers beyond
asking whether they are residents of Virginia. It's not as if there is a
form.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 3:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 3:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...

On 7/25/14, 11:26 AM, wrote:

I have been tagged a "gun nut" here several times and I have bought 4
guns since the Nixon administration. I only sold one in my whole life,
the machine gun.

I would think that being a "gun nut" has more to do with attitudes about
firearms and less to do with how many firearms one buys, sells, or
keeps.

One thing that makes a "real" gun nut is resistance to gun regulations.
You probably don't qualify as a "real" gun nut.
But you're close. So am I.
Of course I get to decide whom I call a gun nut.
Greg is a gun nut. It's a genetic deal.


I don't have any resistance to serious gun regulations. I don't think
current gun regulations generally are nearly strict enough, and I live
in a state considered to have fairly strict gun regulations. The
neighboring state of Virginia, sadly, has extremely lax gun regulations,
especially as they pertain to private sale and transfer of firearms.


I've reviewed the current (and fairly new) Maryland gun laws.
Generally, they are similar to those that have been in existence in
Massachusetts for many years although Massachusetts remains more
restrictive in terms of what particular models are legal to buy.

A bill to impose even more restrictions in MA, including permit
applicants to demonstrate a "need" to own even a shotgun was recently
fast-tracked through the state legislature. MA is a "shall issue" state
for long guns and rifles and the proposed new law would have changed
that, requiring permit applicants to demonstrate a "need" to local
police permitting authorities and would have given police departments
more power to deny a permit.

Fortunately enough opposition was expressed to this bill to cause it to
be withdrawn and re-written before it was voted on. The new laws are
more restrictive than those in effect but they aren't as bad as they
could have been.

Point is, there has to be a reasonable balance between those who would
love to simply ban private gun ownership outright and those who don't
want any regulation at all. Overall, we are slowly slipping towards
the former. If you enjoy owning firearms, keep an eye on your Maryland
legislature.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 2:21 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:52:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 8:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:25:59 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:
But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha


Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010
as Maryland (293)?

Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.

Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?


There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss
the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"
and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia
has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone
can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.


All of those sales are illegal. Do you think that more laws would fix
it?


Are they? Apparently sales between individuals in Virginia are not
regulated. When I sold my SIG some years ago to a Virginia buyer, I
called the Virginia state police and was told point blank they didn't care.

This was the Virginia law a few years ago:


http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm

What are the laws concerning the private sale of a handgun?

To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard
information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm
was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make,
model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a
handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs.
Additionally, Virginia’s handgun purchase limitation applies in private
transactions. Refer to http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Mul ...
chase.shtm for additional information on multiple handgun purchases.
Should the firearm ever be located at a crime scene, trace of the
firearm will determine the licensed dealer who last sold the firearm and
will identify the last buyer of the firearm. To have your name removed
from this process, you may consider placing your firearm on consignment
with a licensed dealer. This will also ensure that the firearm is
transferred only to a lawfully eligible individual.


Read mo
http://vagunforum.net/virginia-laws/...#ixzz38WztUrc4

You can be sure the non-dealers selling out of the back of their cars at
Virginia gun shows aren't verifying the statehood of their buyers beyond
asking whether they are residents of Virginia. It's not as if there is a
form.

If a private seller is going to violate a FEDERAL law about selling to
out of state buyers, why would a state law like you have in Maryland
deter them?
If the gun is stolen, as most crime guns are, the whole question is
ludicrous anyway.



D'oh. How is an individual seller at a Virginia gun show supposed to
know with certainly where a prospective buyer lives? There's no
paperwork or record-keeping requirement for these sales in Virginia.
"Yeah, he showed me a license."

Pistol grips
 

wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/2014 10:23 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

Two words that aren't in your vocabulary. Polite and society.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Pistol grips
 

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha





Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?

Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.

He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be
saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois
plates around here.

I think your post nailed it.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha





Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?

Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.

He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be
saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois
plates around here.

I think your post nailed it.



The Virginia gunshow loophole problem has been reported on the news
dozens of times, **** for brains.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 2:54 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:10:08 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



D'oh. How is an individual seller at a Virginia gun show supposed to
know with certainly where a prospective buyer lives? There's no
paperwork or record-keeping requirement for these sales in Virginia.
"Yeah, he showed me a license."

That is all you do if you go to a dealer.
As long as the name on the license comes back clean, you get your gun.

If the instant check system is a s bad as E-Verify, it is no real
check at all.



Note that I posted "individual seller," not "dealer." The individual
sellers being discussed are not dealers, they are selling out of the
trunks of their cars. For the 978th time. Sheesh.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:57:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha





Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?

Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.

He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be
saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois
plates around here.

I think your post nailed it.



The Virginia gunshow loophole problem has been reported on the news
dozens of times, **** for brains.

Yeah they said it on TV so it must be true


Individuals not dealers who sell firearms in Virginia are the loophole
sellers. Got it? Still not? Sheesh.