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On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:23:57 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:

wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d

wrote:



On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:

Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?

Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?



Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15

minutes ago.

Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in

restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.



That was my point



BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR



As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite

society."







Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

Google is fascinating.

"Translate message to English?"

F*O*A*D
9:23 AM (3 hours ago)

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Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

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On Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:57:43 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:



On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:



But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha











Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010



as Maryland (293)?







Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.





Sure. didn't you too just now?







There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss



the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"



and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia



has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone



can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.



"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?



Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.



He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be

saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois

plates around here.



I think your post nailed it.







The Virginia gun show loophole problem has been reported on the news

dozens of times, **** for brains.

Surely you can support your alleged news stories with some type of a reputable certification can't you Krause?

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On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:55:43 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:57:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:



On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:



But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha











Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010



as Maryland (293)?







Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.





Sure. didn't you too just now?







There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss



the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"



and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia



has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone



can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.



"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?



Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.



He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be

saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois

plates around here.



I think your post nailed it.







The Virginia gunshow loophole problem has been reported on the news

dozens of times, **** for brains.



Yeah they said it on TV so it must be true

Krause mentioned it on rec.boats so the validity is impeccable.

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On 7/26/14, 4:13 PM, wrote:

Like I said, if they are willing to break a federal law, why would a
state law bother them?

As I said, there is no paper trail necessary for a private sale in
Virginia. Process that.

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On 7/26/14, 4:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Individuals not dealers who sell firearms in Virginia are the loophole
sellers. Got it? Still not? Sheesh.

Are you so deluded to think there are no individuals selling guns in
Maryland?


Did I say or imply that? No.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/26/14, 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:27:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 4:13 PM, wrote:

Like I said, if they are willing to break a federal law, why would a
state law bother them?

As I said, there is no paper trail necessary for a private sale in
Virginia. Process that.



It is still illegal for a private citizen to sell to an out of state
buyer. If they are willing to ignore that law, why would a law like
Maryland has affect them?



You're really working this.

Since there is no paperwork required, how can one prove the private
citizen seller had any idea the private buyer was an out of stater?

"Yeah, he showed me a driver's license. Looked okay to me, but then I'm
no expert about what an out of state driver's license should look like, eh?"

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On 7/26/14, 4:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:27:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 4:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Individuals not dealers who sell firearms in Virginia are the loophole
sellers. Got it? Still not? Sheesh.

Are you so deluded to think there are no individuals selling guns in
Maryland?


Did I say or imply that? No.

So you have a much stricter law ... that is being broken regularly.

I guess the real question is how many prosecutions are there?


Beats me. I only buy firearms legally.

Pistol grips
 

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:55:43 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:57:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:

But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha





Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010

as Maryland (293)?



Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.


Sure. didn't you too just now?



There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss

the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"

and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia

has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone

can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.

"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?

Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.

He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be
saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois
plates around here.

I think your post nailed it.



The Virginia gunshow loophole problem has been reported on the news
dozens of times, **** for brains.

Yeah they said it on TV so it must be true

You'd think he could find and post a link to at least one dozen of his bull**** stories.

Pistol grips
 

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:14:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Individuals not dealers who sell firearms in Virginia are the loophole
sellers. Got it? Still not? Sheesh.

Are you so deluded to think there are no individuals selling guns in
Maryland?

Ewww! That was a low blow. Accurate though.

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:04:36 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:57:43 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 1:51 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:



On Friday, July 25, 2014 3:25:59 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/25/14, 4:56 PM, Tim wrote:



But Harry, if your state has tougher gun laws than Virginia, then why does your state have double the murder rate per capita than Virginia ? http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murd...-state#MRalpha











Gee, Tim, why did Virginia have nearly as many gun murders (250) in 2010



as Maryland (293)?







Oh, I get it. You're playing the dumb stats game.





Sure. didn't you too just now?







There have been any number of news stories over the years that discuss



the number of Maryland criminals who take advantage of the "paperless"



and "recordless" private sales of guns in Virginia. In fact, Virginia



has a well-deserved rep as *the* state on the East Coast where anyone



can buy about any firearm they want sans even the instant check.



"Numerous?" is that cited or projecting again?



Numerous as in 'more of Krause's numerous bull**** stories'.



He's made that bull**** comment over and over, but has yet to back it up with anything. He'll be

saying all those Chicago boys get there guns here also. But, I sure don't see a lot of Illinois

plates around here.



I think your post nailed it.







The Virginia gun show loophole problem has been reported on the news

dozens of times, **** for brains.

Surely you can support your alleged news stories with some type of a reputable certification can't you Krause?

He's yet to do so, even with several years of touting the same bull****.

Pistol grips
 

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:13:03 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:13:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 2:54 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:10:08 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



D'oh. How is an individual seller at a Virginia gun show supposed to
know with certainly where a prospective buyer lives? There's no
paperwork or record-keeping requirement for these sales in Virginia.
"Yeah, he showed me a license."

That is all you do if you go to a dealer.
As long as the name on the license comes back clean, you get your gun.

If the instant check system is a s bad as E-Verify, it is no real
check at all.



Note that I posted "individual seller," not "dealer." The individual
sellers being discussed are not dealers, they are selling out of the
trunks of their cars. For the 978th time. Sheesh.

Like I said, if they are willing to break a federal law, why would a
state law bother them?
Are you really trying to convince anyone that there are not illegal
gun sales going on in Maryland?
All of those gang bangers in Baltimore seem to have plenty of guns and
they are not driving to Virginia to get them.
Most are stolen locally and sold locally.

Find me any credible proof that it is not true. I do find it
interesting that there is no real effort to trace crime guns unless
they shoot a president or something. Then they seemed to be able to
track them ... even before all of the laws since 1968.

Gosh, you'd think with all these 'individuals' illegally selling all these guns, the law would have
caught some by now. Wonder why Harry can't post something referencing all these lawbreakers.

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:16:08 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:07:27 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 4:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:27:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/26/14, 4:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



Individuals not dealers who sell firearms in Virginia are the loophole
sellers. Got it? Still not? Sheesh.

Are you so deluded to think there are no individuals selling guns in
Maryland?


Did I say or imply that? No.

So you have a much stricter law ... that is being broken regularly.

I guess the real question is how many prosecutions are there?


Beats me. I only buy firearms legally.

You certainly seem to want us to believe you know what you are
pontificating about.
"Beats me" is pretty much a description of your knowledge on the
subject. You just parrot the bull**** MSNBC tells you.

That deserves a....

.....~snerk~

Pistol grips
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

The bad guys got the guns thereM

Pistol grips
 

On 7/27/14, 5:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

The bad guys got the guns thereM



Oh, so an armed society is *not* a polite society. Gee, you got it.
Amazing.

Pistol grips
 

On 7/27/2014 5:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

The bad guys got the guns thereM


The fact is, "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good
guy with a gun". In my opinion, until someone can prove that wrong,
there is really not other answer to self protection provided under the
Constitution... I don't do guns, I have (recently) family members who do
and I think that's fine, hopefully they never have to use them.

Pistol grips
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/27/14, 5:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/26/14, 12:20 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:25:07 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 7/25/2014 6:42 PM, wrote:
Maybe because Virginia has about 40% more people?
Would you want to compare your gun murder rate to Wyoming?

Funny you should mention Wyoming. We just left the Cody rodeo about 15
minutes ago.
Something that struck me odd was that a few of the servers in
restaurants were open carrying. Didn't see many others doing so though.

That was my point

BTW the number was 11 (gun murders) from the FBI UCR

As a guy in Alaska told us years ago. "An armed society is a polite
society."



Sell that bull**** to the Somalis or the Ukrainians.

The bad guys got the guns thereM



Oh, so an armed society is *not* a polite society. Gee, you got it. Amazing.

If only the bad guys got the arms, is not an armed society!