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H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 10th 14 11:24 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
Here's what EDMUNDS SAYS ABOUT ONE OF THE IMPOSTERS
Criticisms include the Ridgeline's aversion to off-road adventures,
where its lack of a low-range gear and a tendency to bottom out don't
help when tackling more rugged trails. Fuel economy for a V6-powered
pickup is also disappointing.

If these shortcomings are meaningful to you, then you'll want to
consider a pickup with true truck DNA. But if all you really need is the
passenger space of an SUV and the utility of a pickup truck, the
Ridgeline is an excellent choice.
--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

F*O*A*D July 10th 14 11:55 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/10/14, 6:45 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:24:11 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

Here's what EDMUNDS SAYS ABOUT ONE OF THE IMPOSTERS
Criticisms include the Ridgeline's aversion to off-road adventures,
where its lack of a low-range gear and a tendency to bottom out don't
help when tackling more rugged trails. Fuel economy for a V6-powered
pickup is also disappointing.

If these shortcomings are meaningful to you, then you'll want to
consider a pickup with true truck DNA. But if all you really need is the
passenger space of an SUV and the utility of a pickup truck, the
Ridgeline is an excellent choice.


We took a Kia Sorento on some off road adventures in Montana. I can't
say it was suited to the task but we made it back. I did buy the
insurance and it wasn't my car so we just went with it.
There was a lot of scraping and banging.



Is FlaJim planning to take his self-propelled tin motel room offroad on
some rugged trails?

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Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 11th 14 12:26 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/10/2014 5:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/10/14, 6:45 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:24:11 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

Here's what EDMUNDS SAYS ABOUT ONE OF THE IMPOSTERS
Criticisms include the Ridgeline's aversion to off-road adventures,
where its lack of a low-range gear and a tendency to bottom out don't
help when tackling more rugged trails. Fuel economy for a V6-powered
pickup is also disappointing.

If these shortcomings are meaningful to you, then you'll want to
consider a pickup with true truck DNA. But if all you really need is the
passenger space of an SUV and the utility of a pickup truck, the
Ridgeline is an excellent choice.


We took a Kia Sorento on some off road adventures in Montana. I can't
say it was suited to the task but we made it back. I did buy the
insurance and it wasn't my car so we just went with it.
There was a lot of scraping and banging.



Is FlaJim planning to take his self-propelled tin motel room offroad on
some rugged trails?

No but it does afford me a closer up view of America than you get while
on your fabled American flyovers.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Poquito Loco July 11th 14 04:04 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:26:43 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/10/2014 5:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/10/14, 6:45 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:24:11 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

Here's what EDMUNDS SAYS ABOUT ONE OF THE IMPOSTERS
Criticisms include the Ridgeline's aversion to off-road adventures,
where its lack of a low-range gear and a tendency to bottom out don't
help when tackling more rugged trails. Fuel economy for a V6-powered
pickup is also disappointing.

If these shortcomings are meaningful to you, then you'll want to
consider a pickup with true truck DNA. But if all you really need is the
passenger space of an SUV and the utility of a pickup truck, the
Ridgeline is an excellent choice.

We took a Kia Sorento on some off road adventures in Montana. I can't
say it was suited to the task but we made it back. I did buy the
insurance and it wasn't my car so we just went with it.
There was a lot of scraping and banging.



Is FlaJim planning to take his self-propelled tin motel room offroad on
some rugged trails?

No but it does afford me a closer up view of America than you get while
on your fabled American flyovers.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson


Speaking of RVs, I had my antenna replaced with a Windgard Sensar IV that folks down on the roof.
Hopefully I won't rip it off. Gets good reception too.

Going back down to Solomons Navy Rec Center with the kids and grandkids next week. Have to go
through Huntingtown, but we keep the windows up.

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 04:45 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 11:04 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:26:43 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:



Going back down to Solomons Navy Rec Center with the kids and grandkids next week. Have to go
through Huntingtown, but we keep the windows up.


Trailer trash in my county...alas...but at least they keep you behind a
locked gate, eh?


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anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

True North[_2_] July 11th 14 04:48 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 04:55 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the neighborhood
with dark skin.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 11th 14 05:04 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/2014 10:55 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
We have some folks in the neighborhood with dark skin.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.


You've mentioned that before on several occasions. What's your point?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Califbill July 11th 14 06:04 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the neighborhood with dark skin.



That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?

Poquito Loco July 11th 14 06:11 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:04:15 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 7/11/2014 10:55 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
We have some folks in the neighborhood with dark skin.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.


You've mentioned that before on several occasions. What's your point?


Must bother the hell out of him. He should try meeting them. Maybe he'd actually find someone to
befriend him. Doubtful though.

Poquito Loco July 11th 14 06:15 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Other than to take pictures of his Maryland red barn, I can think of no reason to grace Harry's
driveway with an Open Range 5th wheel RV.

Oh wait, it's not Harry's barn after all. Maybe he'd let me take pictures of his owls down by the
creek.

Oh wait, those weren't his owls after all. Not even his pictures.

Getting continuously caught in lies must be a bitch, eh Don? Is that why you feel so sorry for the
guy that you have to make inane comments to 'support' him?

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 06:19 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the neighborhood with dark skin.



That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

True North[_2_] July 11th 14 06:33 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
What are you whining about Johnny?
I compared you to well known movie star, Randy Quaid.
I'd think y'all would be grateful.

Poquito Loco July 11th 14 07:35 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

What are you whining about Johnny?
I compared you to well known movie star, Randy Quaid.
I'd think y'all would be grateful.


Whining? Did you see some 'whining' there?

I asked you a question. That's not 'whining'.

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 08:04 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.


I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

..357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Poquito Loco July 11th 14 08:58 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:47:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.


What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


He seems to sell a lot, just to keep on the 'good side' of the anti-gun nuts.

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 09:04 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.


What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


I have a pair of revolvers in Colt .45. They have only been fired a
couple of times at the factory to assure they were working properly.
They live in a box in a safe. I take them out a couple of times a year
to give them a D&C, which of course is not necessary, and to put a very
light coat of gun oil on their innards to prevent
corrosion/rust/nasties. I wear surgical gloves when I do this. Purple.

I do sell guns I tire of and I use the proceeds to buy new guns. At the
moment, the only handgun I actually use is a Ruger GP 100, and the only
rifle I have is the new lever gun, which I've only fired a few times,
both in the same zombie-killer caliber.








--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

F*O*A*D July 11th 14 09:12 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 3:58 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:47:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.


What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


He seems to sell a lot, just to keep on the 'good side' of the anti-gun nuts.



Your utter stupidity, I am sure, contributed significantly to our losses
in Vietnam and to the failures of the high school students you were
supposed to be teaching in Virginia.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

KC July 11th 14 11:07 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/2014 3:58 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:47:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.


What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


He seems to sell a lot, just to keep on the 'good side' of the anti-gun nuts.


Almost like he's making it all up as he goes along huh?

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 11th 14 11:12 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.



That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Califbill July 11th 14 11:57 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.


What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


I have only traded one. 30 carbine Ruger. Not fun to shoot. Traded for a
Colt 357 Trooper III. Am looking at buying the first one in 30 years. M&P
AR.

Califbill July 11th 14 11:57 PM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 3:58 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:47:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot* ..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber" firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.

What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


He seems to sell a lot, just to keep on the 'good side' of the anti-gun nuts.



Your utter stupidity, I am sure, contributed significantly to our losses
in Vietnam and to the failures of the high school students you were
supposed to be teaching in Virginia.



Actually was the Democrat in charge, who sent me my draft notice in 1964,
who is to blame for the debacle in SEA.

Califbill July 12th 14 12:01 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and blood.



They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful, but
definitely a large caliber.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 12:13 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 6:07 PM, KC wrote:
On 7/11/2014 3:58 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:47:05 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:04:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/11/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:19:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot
are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

I thought you had a .45

How "large" do you think it has to be?


You apparently missed the sentence beginning "The ones I do *shoot*
..."
that followed the sentence "I don't *shoot* any "large caliber"
firearms."

Shotguns, of course, are excluded.

.357 MAG is not a large caliber. Its bullet is barely larger in
diameter
than a 9mm bullet. Picked up my lever action rifle yesterday, BTW.

What happened to the .45LC?

You seem to buy and sell guns at a pace that is hard to keep up with.
Maybe you should get an FFL.

I have only bought one gun since 1994 and I have never sold or given
one away.


He seems to sell a lot, just to keep on the 'good side' of the
anti-gun nuts.


Almost like he's making it all up as he goes along huh?



Perhaps one day when your meds aren't working anymore, you'll borrow gas
money and drive down here and bust into the house. After that, your
survivors can comment on whether it was made up, eh?

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 12:26 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 7:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and blood.



They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful, but
definitely a large caliber.


..357 rounds are about the same diameter as 9mm rounds. 9mm is available
with 147 grain and larger bullets. I shoot 125 grain and 158 grain .357.
It's not a large caliber round. I don't shoot .45 caliber.


Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt


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Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Wayne.B July 12th 14 02:08 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 02:21 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
On 7/11/14, 8:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 19:26:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a


He doesn't seem to be very good at it


And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt

These are "combat" competitions ... practicing to shoot people.



Targets is targets, as it were.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Califbill July 12th 14 04:44 AM

To haul a real boat you need a real truck
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


I used to like shooting my .357, when I still shot a lot. But rarely with a
magnum load. Light load 38's.

Califbill July 12th 14 04:44 AM

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 7:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and blood.



They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful, but
definitely a large caliber.


.357 rounds are about the same diameter as 9mm rounds. 9mm is available
with 147 grain and larger bullets. I shoot 125 grain and 158 grain .357.
It's not a large caliber round. I don't shoot .45 caliber.


Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt



He is not shooting .357 magnum rounds. He is shooting very light loads.
Probably light for even .38 special. Little kick in the Ruger.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 12:33 PM

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On 7/11/14, 11:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 7:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and blood.


They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful, but
definitely a large caliber.


.357 rounds are about the same diameter as 9mm rounds. 9mm is available
with 147 grain and larger bullets. I shoot 125 grain and 158 grain .357.
It's not a large caliber round. I don't shoot .45 caliber.


Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt



He is not shooting .357 magnum rounds. He is shooting very light loads.
Probably light for even .38 special. Little kick in the Ruger.


Gee, Bilious, just what *is* a .357 mag round, in your typically
uninformed opinion?

I didn't see a "crawl" along the bottom of the vid indicating what
powder and how much was being used, along with the bullet weight. I
shoot standard, manufactured .357 Mag target loads, with 158 grain
bullets. They *are* .357 magnum rounds. There's very little recoil or
muzzle flip with my revolver. I do have some special self-defense rounds
with a lighter grain bullet, but I don't use them for target shooting.

This is yet another of those subjects about which you don't know your
ass from a hole in the ground.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 12:37 PM

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On 7/12/14, 12:36 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


That is typically not paper target shooting, it is steel "knock
down/spin around" targets and it is usually a "combat course" (or
hunting type shooting with rifles), simulating shooting some kind of
flesh.
Most (pistol) paper target shooting is done with low powered center
fire ammo or the trusty old .22rf.




I shoot paper targets, steel targets, 2 liter soda pop bottles, et
cetera, with my revolver. I had no idea you and w'hine were the arbiters
of what is and is not target shooting. Targets are targets.

Oh, wait...*you* think combat course shooting at targets is not target
shooting.

That's a giggle.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 01:02 PM

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On 7/12/14, 12:42 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:44:10 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


I used to like shooting my .357, when I still shot a lot. But rarely with a
magnum load. Light load 38's.


Same here. I was reloading 148gr wad cutters with about 2.5 gr of
Bullseye. That is a very pleasant load to shoot that provides
excellent accuracy.


I don't shoot non-jacketed bullets. Too messy. The .38 specials are
ok...I have some and shoot them, but they tend to leave a carbon residue
in the chambers near and at the front of the cylinder. That means more
time cleaning. The .38 specials feel like .22LR rounds in my
revolver...the .357 mags feel like 9 mm. Perhaps you need a heavier
revolver with a 6" barrel and full underlug. Makes a big difference.
--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Poquito Loco July 12th 14 02:56 PM

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.

F*O*A*D July 12th 14 03:19 PM

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On 7/12/14, 9:56 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.


You, on the other hand, probably need a seeing eye dog to point your
hand in the direction of the targets.




--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 12th 14 03:25 PM

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On 7/12/2014 6:33 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 7:01 PM, Califbill wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/11/2014 12:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/11/14, 11:48 AM, True North wrote:
Imagine Johnny showing up at your place with the trailer.
Reminds me of that Chevy Chase movie where the redneck brother
in law
pulls up and parks on the street in front of the house.


Herring wouldn't like our street. We have some folks in the
neighborhood with dark skin.


That why you keep all those large caliber firearms?


I don't shoot any "large caliber" firearms. The ones I do shoot
are for
inanimate targets and right-wing zombies, of course.

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has
flesh and blood.


They can be target rounds. And 357 mag is definitely a large caliber
round! .45 is bigger than a 44 magnum in diameter. Not as powerful,
but
definitely a large caliber.


.357 rounds are about the same diameter as 9mm rounds. 9mm is available
with 147 grain and larger bullets. I shoot 125 grain and 158 grain .357.
It's not a large caliber round. I don't shoot .45 caliber.


Oh, and for FlaJim, who is about as ignorant of handguns and ammo as he
is of everything else, here's a vid of a fella shooting .357 Mags in
competition target shooting:

http://tinyurl.com/lyuxe6a

And another:

http://tinyurl.com/ofg4qwt



He is not shooting .357 magnum rounds. He is shooting very light loads.
Probably light for even .38 special. Little kick in the Ruger.


Gee, Bilious, just what *is* a .357 mag round, in your typically
uninformed opinion?

I didn't see a "crawl" along the bottom of the vid indicating what
powder and how much was being used, along with the bullet weight. I
shoot standard, manufactured .357 Mag target loads, with 158 grain
bullets. They *are* .357 magnum rounds. There's very little recoil or
muzzle flip with my revolver. I do have some special self-defense rounds
with a lighter grain bullet, but I don't use them for target shooting.

This is yet another of those subjects about which you don't know your
ass from a hole in the ground.

Krause fancies himself as a small arms expert. Doubt his book learnin
makes him a good shooter though. What he does well is produce hot air.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 12th 14 03:37 PM

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On 7/12/2014 6:37 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/12/14, 12:36 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh
and
blood.

===

Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


That is typically not paper target shooting, it is steel "knock
down/spin around" targets and it is usually a "combat course" (or
hunting type shooting with rifles), simulating shooting some kind of
flesh.
Most (pistol) paper target shooting is done with low powered center
fire ammo or the trusty old .22rf.




I shoot paper targets, steel targets, 2 liter soda pop bottles, et
cetera, with my revolver. I had no idea you and w'hine were the arbiters
of what is and is not target shooting. Targets are targets.

Oh, wait...*you* think combat course shooting at targets is not target
shooting.

That's a giggle.

None of those targets require a 357 or 45 round to produce a noise,
movement or damage. BTW, In the military it's called target practice.
Happy practice killing to you Mr. WAFA.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 12th 14 03:44 PM

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On 7/12/2014 7:02 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The .38 specials feel like .22LR rounds in my revolver...the .357 mags
feel like 9 mm. Perhaps you need a heavier revolver with a 6" barrel and
full underlug. Makes a big difference.
--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason


Sounds like you are ready to move up to a 686. Keep saving those nickles
and dimes. You'll get there some day.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Wayne.B July 12th 14 03:44 PM

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:25:37 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

Krause fancies himself as a small arms expert. Doubt his book learnin
makes him a good shooter though. What he does well is produce hot air.


===

Which would be OK if it weren't for the sewage smell.

Wayne.B July 12th 14 03:50 PM

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:56:17 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh and
blood.


===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.


===

Oh absolutely, the Kimber 45 is a very sweet gun. Let me know if you
ever want to sell it. On the other hand, a 357 magnum, unless
downloaded to low velocity 38s, is a very unpleasant to shoot (except
Harry's of course).

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 12th 14 03:55 PM

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On 7/12/2014 9:19 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/12/14, 9:56 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:08:13 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:12:38 -0500, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

357 magnum and 45 are not target rounds unless your target has flesh
and
blood.

===

Actually I know quite a few guys who shoot targets with 45s. The
recoil is not that bad and they do their own reloads, usually on the
soft side. Shooting a 357 magnum for fun strains my credibility a
bit however.


My Kimber .45 is absolutely spectacular for shooting targets.


You, on the other hand, probably need a seeing eye dog to point your
hand in the direction of the targets.




Your 15 year old lasiked eyes have suffered further hardening since your
treatment. What's your vision now? What do you reach for first when you
get up to empty your ostamy bag, your glasses or your walker?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson


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