On 7/15/2014 8:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:12:12 AM UTC-7, F. O. A. D. wrote:


This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.



Actually, this thread was about Ray Nagin, the mayor of N.O. who fell from grace and was sentenced to 10 years in prison for his wrong doing. That is until you kept poking something about Cheaney, and Bush.

Harry, by your massive contributions, you really helped make this "dumbest right-wing thread" what it is.



That's exactly what gets under my skin. Harry uses any opportunity to
spread his political propaganda. Gets really old after 14 years and
it's *the* primary reason this newsgroup is what it is today.

rec.boats isn't infested with right-wing nutcases. It's infested with
Harry.

On 7/15/14, 7:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/15/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned?
What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield.



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over
the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and
stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq
and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade
Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.


The Gulf War ended in a cease fire. Saddam was allowed to stay in power
by agreeing to comply with terms and conditions outlined in UN
Resolution 687.

Understand so far?



I know and understand the history. Bush invaded Iraq and made a bigger
mess of the middle east. Too bad he couldn't have caught Osama first,
and then skipped the bull**** warmaking in Iraq, eh?

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

On 7/15/2014 8:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/15/2014 8:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:12:12 AM UTC-7, F. O. A. D. wrote:


This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.



Actually, this thread was about Ray Nagin, the mayor of N.O. who fell
from grace and was sentenced to 10 years in prison for his wrong
doing. That is until you kept poking something about Cheaney, and Bush.

Harry, by your massive contributions, you really helped make this
"dumbest right-wing thread" what it is.



That's exactly what gets under my skin. Harry uses any opportunity to
spread his political propaganda. Gets really old after 14 years and
it's *the* primary reason this newsgroup is what it is today.

rec.boats isn't infested with right-wing nutcases. It's infested with
Harry.







To bad there is not some super secret way to stop harrys threads from
going viral here, like some way not to answer him, some way, I can't
quite put my finger on it...

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:42:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

rec.boats isn't infested with right-wing nutcases. It's infested with
Harry.

===

Damn right, call in the exterminators!

On 7/14/2014 6:34 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:23:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 7/14/14, 11:03 AM, wrote:

I know you don't care about that because they are just brown people.

Iraqis aren't "brown" people.

What are they?

Harry probably uses some pejorative term involving "sand" or "camel".
Otherwise how can he dehumanize them the way he does?
He does not think it is a war when we killed 20,000 or more civilians
from the air over the 10 years of the "no fly zone" offensive.


I find the speculations of you conservatards funny. I don't use racial
or country of origin pejoratives.

Thanks for refraining from including those two categories in your
seemingly endless list of pejoratives. ASSHOLE!

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/14/2014 7:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/14/14, 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:34:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/14/14, 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:23:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 7/14/14, 11:03 AM, wrote:

I know you don't care about that because they are just brown people.

Iraqis aren't "brown" people.

What are they?

Harry probably uses some pejorative term involving "sand" or "camel".
Otherwise how can he dehumanize them the way he does?
He does not think it is a war when we killed 20,000 or more civilians
from the air over the 10 years of the "no fly zone" offensive.


I find the speculations of you conservatards funny. I don't use racial
or country of origin pejoratives.

Yet you celebrate your hero from Little Rock blowing the hell out of
them.



You really have problems with abstract thinking. I think Clinton was
smarter than Bush because he didn't invade Iraq. How is that a celebration?


Clinton is smarter than Bush and O'Bama. That didn't make him an
effective president.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/15/2014 12:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield.



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA. Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.

Bush's war ended on schedule. O'bama's wars are just getting started.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/15/2014 4:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield.



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.

It seems that your boy is "dumb", by your definition.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/15/2014 5:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield.



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.


The Gulf War ended in a cease fire. Saddam was allowed to stay in power
by agreeing to comply with terms and conditions outlined in UN Resolution 687.

Understand so far?

And once again you are trying to rationalize away Dubya's stupidity.

Luddite is kind enough to parse it out for you in tiny bits. It seems
that he's lost you already. Your brain has been cleansed of all logic
and reason. Why don't you go play in another sandbox, where you can
converse with people on your own level.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 7/15/2014 7:18 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 7:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/15/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned?
What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why
are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield.



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over
the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and
stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq
and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade
Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the
invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.


The Gulf War ended in a cease fire. Saddam was allowed to stay in power
by agreeing to comply with terms and conditions outlined in UN
Resolution 687.

Understand so far?



I know and understand the history. Bush invaded Iraq and made a bigger
mess of the middle east. Too bad he couldn't have caught Osama first,
and then skipped the bull**** warmaking in Iraq, eh?

You don't understand anything. What you think you understand was
programmed into your brain by the unions and the democratic party.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson