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F*O*A*D June 16th 14 12:58 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/15/14, 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to




think I am totally against them. You would be totally




wrong.








I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that




they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,




especially when going to weather. A properly designed,




fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve




the sailing experience.








Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in




use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,




they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -




a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise




comely vessel.








This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the




front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to




seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave




them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are




designed to fold down with ease?








But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep




a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?








Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your




umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot




sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's




with the dodger misuse fetish?








--




Sir Gregory




This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.


Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.



She knew her stuff, though I never agreed with her about keeping potable
water on boats. But there aren't enough actual boaters here to interest
anyone who writes seriously on the subject. The majority of posters here
are right-wingers who don't have boats.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Tim June 16th 14 01:32 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
The majority of posters here

are right-wingers who don't have boats.



--

If right-wing assholes could fly,

rec.boats would be an airport!


Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make?

F*O*A*D June 16th 14 01:40 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
The majority of posters here

are right-wingers who don't have boats.



--

If right-wing assholes could fly,

rec.boats would be an airport!


Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make?


I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are
referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I
make here.

I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising
posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup
is dead, dead, dead.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Wayne.B June 16th 14 01:56 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make?


===

His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will
feel compelled to talk with him.

KC June 16th 14 02:48 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/2014 2:22 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.


Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.


Nope, the illustrious Capt. Neil run her off.... she was outwitting
him because she knew her **** :-) unlike the Capt. who don't know
****.

See, the **** heads can't abide anyone that actually knows their ****.

--
Cheers,

Miguel


Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who
were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'.

F*O*A*D June 16th 14 02:52 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/14, 9:48 AM, KC wrote:


Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who
were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'.



How's your busted knee, busted heart, and busted brain, Ingerfool?


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 16th 14 03:20 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/2014 7:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/15/14, 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a
friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy
on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were
subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to
the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank.
Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into
coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms
Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea
made many sails less than pleasant for me.


Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back.
She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.



She knew her stuff, though I never agreed with her about keeping potable
water on boats. But there aren't enough actual boaters here to interest
anyone who writes seriously on the subject. The majority of posters here
are right-wingers who don't have boats.

Keeping potable water in plastic tanks is something many of us are
familiar with. We listen with great interest to what knowledgeable folks
have to say on the subject. Needless to say, your opinions don't count.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 16th 14 03:23 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/2014 8:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
The majority of posters here

are right-wingers who don't have boats.



--

If right-wing assholes could fly,

rec.boats would be an airport!


Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post
you make?


I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are
referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I
make here.

I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising
posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup
is dead, dead, dead.

If you were smart enough to know what Tim said, You wouldn't be assuming
he said something different.
You are such a dildo.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 16th 14 03:25 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On 6/16/2014 9:52 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 9:48 AM, KC wrote:


Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who
were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'.



How's your busted knee, busted heart, and busted brain, Ingerfool?


So nice of you to ask, but you might have asked using a different tone.

Poquito Loco June 16th 14 04:01 PM

Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
 
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:23:40 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/16/2014 8:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
The majority of posters here

are right-wingers who don't have boats.



--

If right-wing assholes could fly,

rec.boats would be an airport!

Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post
you make?


I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are
referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I
make here.

I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising
posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup
is dead, dead, dead.

If you were smart enough to know what Tim said, You wouldn't be assuming
he said something different.
You are such a dildo.


Wrong. A dildo has an important function. Krause has none.


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