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Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory |
Let's talk about dodgers on sailboats.
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queazy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. |
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On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. |
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On 6/15/2014 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. YKW made her feel uncomfortable here. |
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On 6/15/2014 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. Most of the women who were here were driven off by our typical liberal asshole from MD... |
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. ==== You're right about Peggie but I believe she has had some health issues and greatly reduced her participation in all boating forums. She left rec.boats many years ago because of Harry's taunts and insults. She wrote a good book however which is available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Get-Rid-Boat-Odors-Aggravation/dp/1892399156 |
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:23:47 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe ow) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queazy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less then pleasent for me. I suspect that dodger use depends greatly on how one uses the boat. For "day tripping" where the "cruise" is broken up into single day sails, or less, sitting out in the weather may not be of much concern. If one is crossing oceans then it may very well be of come interest. The trip from the Galapagos to Tahiti is something like 3,600 miles and in a small boat this is more than a month's sail. Having no alternate to being out in the broiling sun or the pouring rain for a month is a whole new story. Another point. People who reside on their boat, as ocean crossers must, appreciate the additional room that a dodger gives. It allows the entire cockpit to become an all weather space, in fact the erection of permanent dodgers is not uncommon on boats that are used as a residence. I might mention that a large number of people I meet cruising have sold their land dwelling and bought a boat. The idea that the boat must look yachty is usually not a major consideration to those who have to sit out in the weather all day, every day. I must say that sailing along in a cloudburst wearing a tee shirt and shorts isn't bad at all when you have a dodger :-) -- Bruce |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:27:17 +0700, Bruce in bangkok
wrote: Another point. People who reside on their boat, as ocean crossers must, appreciate the additional room that a dodger gives. === And that is what a dodger does best, create an extra dry space on the boat which is immediately adjacent to the cockpit. It ends up making both the cockpit and the boat feel significantly bigger in my experience. A well made dodger can also have external hand holds built into it which are useful when going forward. |
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. Nope, the illustrious Capt. Neil run her off.... she was outwitting him because she knew her **** :-) unlike the Capt. who don't know ****. See, the **** heads can't abide anyone that actually knows their ****. -- Cheers, Miguel |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:27:17 +0700, Bruce in bangkok wrote: Another point. People who reside on their boat, as ocean crossers must, appreciate the additional room that a dodger gives. === And that is what a dodger does best, create an extra dry space on the boat which is immediately adjacent to the cockpit. It ends up making both the cockpit and the boat feel significantly bigger in my experience. A well made dodger can also have external hand holds built into it which are useful when going forward. My problem with most if the dodgers I see, is the lack of visibility of the sailor. Open ocean may not be bad. But in SF bay and environs, you need good visibility. |
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On 6/15/14, 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. She knew her stuff, though I never agreed with her about keeping potable water on boats. But there aren't enough actual boaters here to interest anyone who writes seriously on the subject. The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? |
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On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I make here. I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? === His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will feel compelled to talk with him. |
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On 6/16/14, 9:48 AM, KC wrote:
Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'. How's your busted knee, busted heart, and busted brain, Ingerfool? -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On 6/16/2014 7:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/15/14, 8:51 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote: On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to think I am totally against them. You would be totally wrong. I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather, especially when going to weather. A properly designed, fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve the sailing experience. Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead, they are left permanently in place no matter the weather - a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise comely vessel. This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are designed to fold down with ease? But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather? Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's with the dodger misuse fetish? -- Sir Gregory This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat. He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails. Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch. I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied. I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall. A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me. Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with. She knew her stuff, though I never agreed with her about keeping potable water on boats. But there aren't enough actual boaters here to interest anyone who writes seriously on the subject. The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. Keeping potable water in plastic tanks is something many of us are familiar with. We listen with great interest to what knowledgeable folks have to say on the subject. Needless to say, your opinions don't count. |
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On 6/16/2014 8:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I make here. I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. If you were smart enough to know what Tim said, You wouldn't be assuming he said something different. You are such a dildo. |
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On 6/16/2014 9:52 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 9:48 AM, KC wrote: Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'. How's your busted knee, busted heart, and busted brain, Ingerfool? So nice of you to ask, but you might have asked using a different tone. |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:23:40 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/16/2014 8:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I make here. I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. If you were smart enough to know what Tim said, You wouldn't be assuming he said something different. You are such a dildo. Wrong. A dildo has an important function. Krause has none. |
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My my, sounds like karma has really come back to bite the MinnieMan in the ass!
How else could one person have so many problems and he hasn't even reached 60 yet? |
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On 6/16/14, 11:09 AM, True North wrote:
My my, sounds like karma has really come back to bite the MinnieMan in the ass! How else could one person have so many problems and he hasn't even reached 60 yet? It's a family of rocket scientists. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On 6/16/2014 11:24 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 11:09 AM, True North wrote: My my, sounds like karma has really come back to bite the MinnieMan in the ass! How else could one person have so many problems and he hasn't even reached 60 yet? It's a family of rocket scientists. You insult his whole family with only one sentence. Good goin. |
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On 6/16/14, 11:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:23:40 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/16/2014 8:40 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/16/14, 8:32 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, June 16, 2014 4:58:50 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote: The majority of posters here are right-wingers who don't have boats. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? I change my tag line from time to time, if that is what you are referring to...I don't "inject" politics into the text of every post I make here. I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. If you were smart enough to know what Tim said, You wouldn't be assuming he said something different. You are such a dildo. Wrong. A dildo has an important function. I'll bet it does in your household, eh, John the Racist? -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:37:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?" Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead. Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous". It's just fact. Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums. There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful information, and are willing to do so. That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard. Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show. But nobody is here against their will. You seem to have missed Harry's stated goal - the demise of this newsgroup. |
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On 6/16/2014 8:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? === His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will feel compelled to talk with him. How pathetic. Maybe he should take up a hobby or two. |
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On 6/16/14, 12:37 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?" Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead. Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous". It's just fact. Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums. There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful information, and are willing to do so. That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard. Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show. But nobody is here against their will. I haven't seen any "useful" boating information posted here in years. Some years ago, Richard posted some interesting videos of a voyage he took in the Navigator he used to own. Before he died, Skipper posted some interesting and useful videos on trailering. We had a couple of real dealer/repair guys here, but the crazies chased them off. I never said or implied "boating" was dead, although it is pretty much dead in rec.boats. I find it amusing the rec.boats.cruising guys crosspost here because there is nothing going on there. I guess they don't know there is nothing going on here, either. The best boating posts are on the web forums. I don't have any use for "Captain Neal," but, unlike the majority of right-wing clowns here on rec.boats, at least he has a boat, apparently it floats, and he spends time on it. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On 6/16/14, 12:43 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:37:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?" Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead. Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous". It's just fact. Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums. There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful information, and are willing to do so. That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard. Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show. But nobody is here against their will. You seem to have missed Harry's stated goal - the demise of this newsgroup. Wrong as usual, John the Racist. I just want to be here for its death. I don't wish for it. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On 6/16/2014 1:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 12:37 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?" Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead. Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous". It's just fact. Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums. There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful information, and are willing to do so. That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard. Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show. But nobody is here against their will. I haven't seen any "useful" boating information posted here in years. Some years ago, Richard posted some interesting videos of a voyage he took in the Navigator he used to own. Before he died, Skipper posted some interesting and useful videos on trailering. We had a couple of real dealer/repair guys here, but the crazies chased them off. I never said or implied "boating" was dead, although it is pretty much dead in rec.boats. I find it amusing the rec.boats.cruising guys crosspost here because there is nothing going on there. I guess they don't know there is nothing going on here, either. The best boating posts are on the web forums. I don't have any use for "Captain Neal," but, unlike the majority of right-wing clowns here on rec.boats, at least he has a boat, apparently it floats, and he spends time on it. He lives, eats, sleeps, and poops, on it. His boat isn't the only thing floating at his anchorage. Do you think he's an environment friendly kind of guy? Are you an environment friendly kind of guy? |
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On 6/16/2014 1:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 12:43 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:37:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup is dead, dead, dead. Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?" Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead. Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous". It's just fact. Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums. There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful information, and are willing to do so. That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard. Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show. But nobody is here against their will. You seem to have missed Harry's stated goal - the demise of this newsgroup. Wrong as usual, John the Racist. I just want to be here for its death. I don't wish for it. Just like hockey fans don't want to see a little blood once in a while. |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:09 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote: On 6/16/2014 8:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? === His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will feel compelled to talk with him. How pathetic. Maybe he should take up a hobby or two. === A hobby would force him to confront his basic incompetence. |
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On 6/16/2014 5:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:09 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/16/2014 8:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make? === His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will feel compelled to talk with him. How pathetic. Maybe he should take up a hobby or two. === A hobby would force him to confront his basic incompetence. You mean like when he had a gun hobby and had to have the smith rig the CZ so it almost shot itself without Harry's intervention. |
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On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Dodgers don't fold down. Ian |
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:44:42 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote: On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Dodgers don't fold down. Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down. http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm "Traditional Dodger: Traditional dodgers are just that. They are an old design that has sufficed for many years. They are generally a two bow frame and a one piece canvas cover. They were designed to fold forward out of the way when not in use. Unfortunately this puts folds and wrinkles in the clear vinyl windows and renders them unusable to see through." The part about putting wrinkles in the vinyl and rendering them unusable is rubbish. If one is careful folding them down and smoothly flakes the vinyl it will last a lot longer than leaving the dodger up all the time. It is stupid and lubberly to leave a dodger up all the time as they are a detriment in fine weather. -- Sir Gregory |
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On 01/07/14 00:12, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:44:42 +0100, The Real Doctor wrote: On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote: Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in use is never folded down after it is installed. Dodgers don't fold down. Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down. http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm Those aren't dodgers. Ian |
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:15:49 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote: Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down. http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm Those aren't dodgers. Ian === Here in the US we generally see two types of dodgers for the companionway: Cruising dodgers and racing dodgers. Cruising dodgers are much wider, usually the entire width of the coach roof, and usually not designed to fold down unless the canvas and eisenglasss have been removed and stowed away. Racing dodgers are much smaller however and are generally the width of the companionway hatch or only slightly larger. They are designed to fold down quickly and easily. Some racing dodgers do not even have eisenglass in the front, only canvas. |
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"TonyB" wrote:
"john ashby" wrote: Wayne.B wrote: The Real Doctor wrote: Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down. http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm Those aren't dodgers. Here in the US we generally see two types of dodgers for the companionway: Cruising dodgers and racing dodgers. Cruising dodgers are much wider, usually the entire width of the coach roof, and usually not designed to fold down unless the canvas and eisenglasss have been removed and stowed away. Racing dodgers are much smaller however and are generally the width of the companionway hatch or only slightly larger. They are designed to fold down quickly and easily. Some racing dodgers do not even have eisenglass in the front, only canvas. Those sound like sprayhoods, not dodgers. We are, once again, two nations divided by a common language. Yes they are sprayhoods. Dodgers cover the side rails to hull gap. However, I am prepared to accept there is a differnce in USA and UK definitions. In the US they are all called *dodgers* and the ALL can be folded down by the simple expedient of removing some hardware from the frame where it attaches to the house. The lame excuse, "they don't fold down," is just that - a lame excuse for those too lazy to get out of the way something that is designed to cope with spray when going to weather and is a detriment to comfort and seeing in hot and dry weather. Americans are just plain lazy as well as afflicted by fad thinking. Dodgers are a fad. Many so-called sailors think a sailboat isn't complete without one despite the fact many so-called sailors can't even manage to see past them. So, what do they do? They stand or they sit on *high chairs* perched on the stern rail so they can see above yellowed plastic windows. This is, indeed, a sad state of affairs. -- Sir Gregory |
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