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On 5/21/2014 12:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:26:31 -0400, wrote:

Nantucket may be one of the places where it could make sense though,
simply because they don't want a power plant on the shore either and
they still want the lights to come on when they flip the switch.
New power line right of way is as hard to come up with as power
plants.

===

Heh. Nantucket Sound makes a lot of sense because there is a lot of
wind there and so much fog that no one will see them on most days.

Nantucket Sound is the home of the infamous Figawi sailboat race -
humorously named for the mythical tribe of Figawi indians - who,
legend has it, went around in the fog saying: "Where the figawi?".

(say it slowly with a Boston accent)

Would make for interesting boating in the fog.

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On 5/21/2014 1:07 PM, True North wrote:
Bingo.. Prize goes to Wayne.
I actually have three covers for my boat.
The winter Navigloo structure and heavy tarp that does a good job for the elongated late fall/winter/spring season.
The stem to stern travel/mooring additional accessory cover that uses some of the factory installed snaps and expects you to install half a dozen more both sides on the gunnels.
Lastly the stand up foul weather "canvas" meant to extend your boating season up here.
This cover and it's 4 extra panels are why a couple dozen male snaps are attached to the boat..along the gunnels, around the curved walk through wind shield, on the stern, etc.etc.


Lots of snaps really dresses up a boat.

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On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:11:08 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 5/21/2014 12:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:26:31 -0400, wrote:

Nantucket may be one of the places where it could make sense though,
simply because they don't want a power plant on the shore either and
they still want the lights to come on when they flip the switch.
New power line right of way is as hard to come up with as power
plants.

===

Heh. Nantucket Sound makes a lot of sense because there is a lot of
wind there and so much fog that no one will see them on most days.

Nantucket Sound is the home of the infamous Figawi sailboat race -
humorously named for the mythical tribe of Figawi indians - who,
legend has it, went around in the fog saying: "Where the figawi?".

(say it slowly with a Boston accent)

Would make for interesting boating in the fog.

===

It's a very challenging place to sail what with the fog, high speed
ferries, shoals, large yachts, commercial fishing boats, strong
currents, etc. The windmills will be well marked and charted, as
well as being easily spotted on radar.

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On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:32:17 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 5/21/2014 1:07 PM, True North wrote:
Bingo.. Prize goes to Wayne.
I actually have three covers for my boat.
The winter Navigloo structure and heavy tarp that does a good job for the elongated late fall/winter/spring season.
The stem to stern travel/mooring additional accessory cover that uses some of the factory installed snaps and expects you to install half a dozen more both sides on the gunnels.
Lastly the stand up foul weather "canvas" meant to extend your boating season up here.
This cover and it's 4 extra panels are why a couple dozen male snaps are attached to the boat..along the gunnels, around the curved walk through wind shield, on the stern, etc.etc.


Lots of snaps really dresses up a boat.

===

Making it look snappy you say?

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Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 07:09:56 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

John, the snaps were installed at the factory to support the standup
boat cover that you would use while underway.
This cover came as standard equipment with this boat.
I did order the optional stem to stern custom fit travel and summer
storage cover because Legend claimed you could trailer it down the
highway installed on the boat.

OK, but I'd still remove the snaps and fill the holes. I'd never trailer
a boat down the highway
with the cover on regardless of the manufacturer's claims.

Depends on the cover. I have towed my boat thousands of miles in 20 years,
with a snap on trailer cover. Top Gun material, and am on the 2nd cover
since the boat was new in 1991. Just towed 500 miles round trip to Shelter
Cove, CA last weekend. Great fishing. Lots of Rock Cod,mbyte only one
under sized salmon.

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True North wrote:
Some of y'all seem to be forgetting that a major contributing factor is
the paint under the snaps.
The natural aluminum does a better job resisting.

Is not the paints fault. Is the aluminum that has electrolysis. Some
alloys, the 50xx, are much better at not corroding in salt water. Very
little copper content. Problem is the the 50xx and especially the 60xx
alloys do not bend and form as well as other alloys. So if you have nice
compound curves in the aluminum, may be a higher copper content alloy.

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On 5/21/2014 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 15:32:17 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 5/21/2014 1:07 PM, True North wrote:
Bingo.. Prize goes to Wayne.
I actually have three covers for my boat.
The winter Navigloo structure and heavy tarp that does a good job for the elongated late fall/winter/spring season.
The stem to stern travel/mooring additional accessory cover that uses some of the factory installed snaps and expects you to install half a dozen more both sides on the gunnels.
Lastly the stand up foul weather "canvas" meant to extend your boating season up here.
This cover and it's 4 extra panels are why a couple dozen male snaps are attached to the boat..along the gunnels, around the curved walk through wind shield, on the stern, etc.etc.


Lots of snaps really dresses up a boat.

===

Making it look snappy you say?

You got it.;-)

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I've been looking at a Site where it's claimed that the natural aluminum produces an oxide to protec it's self but the paint interferes with that process.
Anyway I'll let y'all experts debate that.
I dug out my 2012 Legend boat catalogue and it boasts of. 100" or 2.5mm thick 5052 H34 cold rolled aluminum on both hull and sides.
The nearest Canadian competition (Princecraft Holiday WC) uses H36 aluminum, .090 or 2.3mm on the hull and. 072 or 1.8mm on the sides.

Legend claims their's is stronger because it's both thicker and more flexible.
Princecraft claim their's is stronger because it's a harder metal.
I'll let the resident experts decided who's right...I believed Legend two years ago.

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On 5/21/2014 7:15 PM, True North wrote:
I've been looking at a Site where it's claimed that the natural aluminum produces an oxide to protec it's self but the paint interferes with that process.
Anyway I'll let y'all experts debate that.
I dug out my 2012 Legend boat catalogue and it boasts of. 100" or 2.5mm thick 5052 H34 cold rolled aluminum on both hull and sides.
The nearest Canadian competition (Princecraft Holiday WC) uses H36 aluminum, .090 or 2.3mm on the hull and. 072 or 1.8mm on the sides.

Legend claims their's is stronger because it's both thicker and more flexible.
Princecraft claim their's is stronger because it's a harder metal.
I'll let the resident experts decided who's right...I believed Legend two years ago.


The paint has no affect on the oxidation process.

Freshly poured aluminum or freshly cut/machined aluminum forms a layer
of aluminum oxide about 50 angstroms thick within 15 minutes of being
exposed to air. The oxide development drops off rapidly after that.
Undisturbed and unaffected by environmental conditions it will take
years for any further oxidation to take place. The oxide layer seals
off the reaction to oxygen.

50 angstroms is about 0.00000019685 inches.

The early photoreceptor drums used in copying machines used the known
oxidation rate to determine a constant in the electrostatic discharge
that either held or repelled the toner. A photo sensitive coating on
the drum surface determined where the charge would stay and where it
would dissipate.

Before coating the aluminum drums were diamond turned on a lathe to
allow the oxide growth to begin and end. As mentioned, it only grows
to just about 50 angstroms and then drops off to nothing.

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True North wrote:
I've been looking at a Site where it's claimed that the natural aluminum produces an oxide to protec it's self but the paint interferes with that process.
Anyway I'll let y'all experts debate that.
I dug out my 2012 Legend boat catalogue and it boasts of. 100" or 2.5mm thick 5052 H34 cold rolled aluminum on both hull and sides.
The nearest Canadian competition (Princecraft Holiday WC) uses H36 aluminum, .090 or 2.3mm on the hull and. 072 or 1.8mm on the sides.

Legend claims their's is stronger because it's both thicker and more flexible.
Princecraft claim their's is stronger because it's a harder metal.
I'll let the resident experts decided who's right...I believed Legend two years ago.

Spell check King, did you have a stroke?

protec it's self

their's is

WTF?

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Sorry, Ditzy.
I'll be using the BlackBerry Playbook exclusively for the foreseeable future and it has a mind of it's own.

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wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 16:15:15 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I've been looking at a Site where it's claimed that the natural aluminum
produces an oxide to protec it's self but the paint interferes with that process.
Anyway I'll let y'all experts debate that.
I dug out my 2012 Legend boat catalogue and it boasts of. 100" or 2.5mm
thick 5052 H34 cold rolled aluminum on both hull and sides.
The nearest Canadian competition (Princecraft Holiday WC) uses H36
aluminum, .090 or 2.3mm on the hull and. 072 or 1.8mm on the sides.

Legend claims their's is stronger because it's both thicker and more flexible.
Princecraft claim their's is stronger because it's a harder metal.
I'll let the resident experts decided who's right...I believed Legend two years ago.
Sounds like what my Harris is made of. Newer pontoon boats use .090 or
even .080 on the log with .10 for the nose cone, if it is a premium
model.

And my Jetcraft is stronger. 5061 3/16" thick.

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On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:12:04 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

There is a benefit from boating in a tropical or sub tropical climate.

It sure beats dodging icebergs and windmills up north. :-)

Ummm...they dont put the " Windmills " out in the Lakes around here, anyway.

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On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:55:49 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

I think windmills are kind of cool, icebergs not so much. I'm of the

opinon that most of the people who fight windfarms are experiencing

rectal-cranial inversions. Every large windmill generates the

equivalent power of a 2,000 hp diesel engine, approximately 100

gallons per hour of fuel that could be going to some higher purpose

like running my boat or your RV. :-)

You did know that they must supply hydro TO them to keep them turning, didn't you?
How many of the god-dam things are around YOUR house???
I'll bet if there were a dozen or more, YOU would be the one whining.
Besides, Ontario is GIVING away hydro to the States.
All the citizens of Ontario are getting out of this " great " idea is an ass-****ing.
The sooner they're gone, the better.

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On 5/22/2014 3:40 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:55:49 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

I think windmills are kind of cool, icebergs not so much. I'm of the

opinon that most of the people who fight windfarms are experiencing

rectal-cranial inversions. Every large windmill generates the

equivalent power of a 2,000 hp diesel engine, approximately 100

gallons per hour of fuel that could be going to some higher purpose

like running my boat or your RV. :-)

You did know that they must supply hydro TO them to keep them turning, didn't you?
How many of the god-dam things are around YOUR house???
I'll bet if there were a dozen or more, YOU would be the one whining.
Besides, Ontario is GIVING away hydro to the States.
All the citizens of Ontario are getting out of this " great " idea is an ass-****ing.
The sooner they're gone, the better.

I think they are mesmerizing. Watching them go round and round, ever so
slowly is a welcome distraction while driving down the freeway.

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On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/22/2014 3:40 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:55:49 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

I think windmills are kind of cool, icebergs not so much. I'm of the

opinon that most of the people who fight windfarms are experiencing

rectal-cranial inversions. Every large windmill generates the

equivalent power of a 2,000 hp diesel engine, approximately 100

gallons per hour of fuel that could be going to some higher purpose

like running my boat or your RV. :-)

You did know that they must supply hydro TO them to keep them turning,
didn't you?
How many of the god-dam things are around YOUR house???
I'll bet if there were a dozen or more, YOU would be the one whining.
Besides, Ontario is GIVING away hydro to the States.
All the citizens of Ontario are getting out of this " great " idea is
an ass-****ing.
The sooner they're gone, the better.

I think they are mesmerizing. Watching them go round and round, ever so
slowly is a welcome distraction while driving down the freeway.

There is one in Tempelton Mass that is off most of the time. When it's
on you can hear it for miles, thump, thump, thump...

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KC wrote:
On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/22/2014 3:40 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:55:49 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

I think windmills are kind of cool, icebergs not so much. I'm of the

opinon that most of the people who fight windfarms are experiencing

rectal-cranial inversions. Every large windmill generates the

equivalent power of a 2,000 hp diesel engine, approximately 100

gallons per hour of fuel that could be going to some higher purpose

like running my boat or your RV. :-)

You did know that they must supply hydro TO them to keep them turning,
didn't you?
How many of the god-dam things are around YOUR house???
I'll bet if there were a dozen or more, YOU would be the one whining.
Besides, Ontario is GIVING away hydro to the States.
All the citizens of Ontario are getting out of this " great " idea is
an ass-****ing.
The sooner they're gone, the better.

I think they are mesmerizing. Watching them go round and round, ever so
slowly is a welcome distraction while driving down the freeway.

There is one in Tempelton Mass that is off most of the time. When it's on
you can hear it for miles, thump, thump, thump...

We have several thousand around here. Lots are being replaced with the
newer, large models. They do kill a lot of raptors.

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On 5/22/2014 2:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/22/2014 3:40 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:55:49 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

I think windmills are kind of cool, icebergs not so much. I'm of the

opinon that most of the people who fight windfarms are experiencing

rectal-cranial inversions. Every large windmill generates the

equivalent power of a 2,000 hp diesel engine, approximately 100

gallons per hour of fuel that could be going to some higher purpose

like running my boat or your RV. :-)

You did know that they must supply hydro TO them to keep them turning,
didn't you?
How many of the god-dam things are around YOUR house???
I'll bet if there were a dozen or more, YOU would be the one whining.
Besides, Ontario is GIVING away hydro to the States.
All the citizens of Ontario are getting out of this " great " idea is
an ass-****ing.
The sooner they're gone, the better.

I think they are mesmerizing. Watching them go round and round, ever so
slowly is a welcome distraction while driving down the freeway.

There is one in Tempelton Mass that is off most of the time. When it's on
you can hear it for miles, thump, thump, thump...

We have several thousand around here. Lots are being replaced with the
newer, large models. They do kill a lot of raptors.


Velociraptors, I trust?
You know that May is national velociraptor awareness month, don't you?

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True North wrote:
Sorry, Ditzy.
I'll be using the BlackBerry Playbook exclusively for the foreseeable future and it has a mind of it's own.
So it's dumber than you, eh?

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On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:47:57 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:

Sorry, Ditzy.

I'll be using the BlackBerry Playbook exclusively for the foreseeable future and it has a mind of it's own.

So it's dumber than you, eh?

Not possible. It does what it's told to do.

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On Sat, 24 May 2014 05:10:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:47:57 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:

Sorry, Ditzy.

I'll be using the BlackBerry Playbook exclusively for the foreseeable future and it has a mind of it's own.

So it's dumber than you, eh?

Not possible. It does what it's told to do.

Since his medical hiatus, Don's been pretty sociable. Notice that he's not puppy-dogging Krause - of
course, it seems that most of Krause's puppy-dogs have absconded.

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I'm just trying to set an example for some of the regulars who can't help themselves from agitating,irritating and instigating.

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On Sat, 24 May 2014 07:12:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

I'm just trying to set an example for some of the regulars who can't help themselves from agitating,irritating and instigating.

Good job.

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On 5/24/2014 10:12 AM, True North wrote:
I'm just trying to set an example for some of the regulars who can't help themselves from agitating,irritating and instigating.

You have to earn our trust. After all you've had some pretty shady
associations in the past. :-}

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On Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:54:19 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2014 05:10:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



On Friday, May 23, 2014 9:47:57 PM UTC-4, Earl wrote:

True North wrote:



Sorry, Ditzy.



I'll be using the BlackBerry Playbook exclusively for the foreseeable future and it has a mind of it's own.



So it's dumber than you, eh?



Not possible. It does what it's told to do.



Since his medical hiatus, Don's been pretty sociable. Notice that he's not puppy-dogging Krause - of

course, it seems that most of Krause's puppy-dogs have absconded.

True. I suppose I can let the past be the past.

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True North wrote:
I'm just trying to set an example for some of the regulars who can't help themselves from agitating,irritating and instigating.

Keep telling yourself that.