On 5/17/2014 7:51 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


What would you do if a thug violently broke into your house in Florida
while you were sitting on the couch watching your favorite TV
commentator, Ann Coulter? Invite him to sit down for a beer and some
snacks?




JPS would.

Pure snark.
I don't have guns in my house, and I'm certainly not worried about a
"thug violently breaking into" my house.
Never heard about it happening around here.
Lot of that happening in your area?
BTW, do you worry about a meteor hit?



My comment was intended to be humor. JPS has stated he has no objection
to owning a firearm for personal protection or home defense.

I never had any interest in having guns when we were younger and had
kids in the house. I started thinking about getting one about 6 years
ago when I realized I wasn't the young guy I used to be and my wife and
I were in a different stage in our lives. We don't live in a high crime
area but break-ins do occur from time to time. One idiot in our town
decided to break into a town cop's house one night about a year ago.
Didn't work out well for him.

On 5/17/2014 8:08 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/17/14, 8:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 17:23:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/17/14, 5:15 PM, wrote:

Between the busted down door or window and the video tape and the
history
of threats, I doubt there would be any charges.


It sounds like you have this murder well planned out.
Good luck


Murder? Self-defense. It's not some kid carrying a bag of candy walking
through the neighborhood. We're talking about a thug who breaks into a
house looking to cause mayhem and who gets caught in the act by the
occupant and by videotape.

You seem like you have rehearsed this killing and in your state that
will mean you pull a charge.

What would you do if a thug violently broke into your house in Florida
while you were sitting on the couch watching your favorite TV
commentator, Ann Coulter? Invite him to sit down for a beer and some
snacks?

If you are sitting on the couch, you are probably going to be at his
mercy unless you have your gun in your hand.
That is why it is a good thing to have a big dog that is more alert
than most people can be.
It *might* buy you time to get to your safe room and a gun.
Anything else is just fantasy.
If I was trying to repel a team of home invaders and I was able to get
to a safe and defensible place, I would certainly want more than a 6
shooter.




I'm unimpressed by your knowledge of "the law." Thinking out what to do
in advance of a criminal breaking in is no different than thinking
through a plan for a fire or a tornado.

There's really no such thing as a "safe room" in a modern house with
wood stud/drywall walls, light door frames and hollow doors.

My six shooter is not my weapon of choice to repel a home invader. I
didn't buy it for that purpose.


Some people (BOA for example) don't seem to realize that having a nice
firearm and going to the range or other authorized area and becoming
proficient at using it is enjoyable for many people. It's not all
about being prepared to shoot someone or even hunting.

On 5/17/14, 9:53 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 20:08:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's really no such thing as a "safe room" in a modern house with
wood stud/drywall walls, light door frames and hollow doors.

Probably true. You should have bought a block home.
My bedroom has block walls on all 4 sides, fire code solid core door.
(used to be the garage)



We don't have a whole lot of concrete block multi-story single family
homes being built around here. For one thing, the usual finish coats of
traditional stucco that you fellas have down south fail up here if any
moisture gets between the stucco and the block, and it always does. When
that happens in a freeze-thaw cycle area, the stucco is prone to
failure. And even if there were block homes as you describe up here, it
isn't likely the interior walls would be block masonry.

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:41:03 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/17/14, 5:45 PM, KC wrote:



Are you still hallucinating about shooting somebody? **** you harry, if

I wanted you dead, you would already be rotted and forgotten...





snerk



Save your threats of blowjobs for your half-assed half-patch biker buddies.

Save yours for JPS.

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:13:40 PM UTC-7, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/17/2014 7:51 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,

says...





What would you do if a thug violently broke into your house in Florida

while you were sitting on the couch watching your favorite TV

commentator, Ann Coulter? Invite him to sit down for a beer and some

snacks?









JPS would.



Pure snark.

I don't have guns in my house, and I'm certainly not worried about a

"thug violently breaking into" my house.

Never heard about it happening around here.

Lot of that happening in your area?

BTW, do you worry about a meteor hit?







My comment was intended to be humor. JPS has stated he has no objection

to owning a firearm for personal protection or home defense.



I never had any interest in having guns when we were younger and had

kids in the house. I started thinking about getting one about 6 years

ago when I realized I wasn't the young guy I used to be and my wife and

I were in a different stage in our lives. We don't live in a high crime

area but break-ins do occur from time to time. One idiot in our town

decided to break into a town cop's house one night about a year ago.

Didn't work out well for him.

A kid in a local Provincial town was charged for burglary, yet was released by the magistrate (with a probationary period and minor fine) because it was a first time offence.

That evening the kid broke into another home and gathered up some valuables, made a sandwich from the refrigerator, and sat on the couch to enjoy a bottle of wine.

Thee fool fell a sleep on the couch. Then the home owner arrived and noticed thee side door and been tampered with and called for a constable. Upon entry they found the kid who was before the judges bench that morning. in the mean time the kid found that he had broken into the judges home...

Not good.

In article ,
says...


Some people (BOA for example) don't seem to realize that having a nice
firearm and going to the range or other authorized area and becoming
proficient at using it is enjoyable for many people. It's not all
about being prepared to shoot someone or even hunting.

Huh? I don't care if you do that. But unless you're using a target gun
you're gaining proficiency for what? To shoot an "intruder" or "bad
guy" with your non-target gun. And I don't care if you do that.
If I feared "intruders" and "bad guys" I'd do it too.
None of my business as long as you stay within the law. Have at it.
You're a big boy. Choose your hobbies, and I'll choose mine.

On 5/18/14, 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 08:17:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/17/14, 9:53 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 20:08:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

There's really no such thing as a "safe room" in a modern house with
wood stud/drywall walls, light door frames and hollow doors.

Probably true. You should have bought a block home.
My bedroom has block walls on all 4 sides, fire code solid core door.
(used to be the garage)



We don't have a whole lot of concrete block multi-story single family
homes being built around here. For one thing, the usual finish coats of
traditional stucco that you fellas have down south fail up here if any
moisture gets between the stucco and the block, and it always does. When
that happens in a freeze-thaw cycle area, the stucco is prone to
failure. And even if there were block homes as you describe up here, it
isn't likely the interior walls would be block masonry.

Bull****
Stucco is basically the same "parging" they use on the block portion
of virtually every house up there with a basement. The only difference
is they put a pattern in it here and call it stucco. They are both
type "S" mortar with a bonding agent in it. In fact back when I was up
there, parging was just sand and portland with no admix at all.
There was no prep of the wall surface either.


The mix for a parge coat isn't the same as the mix for stucco. The parge
coat also gets a coating of waterproofing tar. Stucco does not. The
parge coat is also mostly underground, where the temps are more stable.

I recall seeing some decades ago houses in different subdivisions within
Reston, Virginia, where the stucco over block failed.
Carpenters were nailing wood strips to the damaged surface to
accommodate T1-11 siding, a cure I am not sure was any better than the
disease.

On 5/17/14, 1:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 15:06:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Are you still planning an illegal home invasion down here, or have your
age, infirmities and meds helped you decide against that form of suicide?

I hope you get a fair trial.

Between the busted down door or window and the video tape and the history
of threats, I doubt there would be any charges.

no witnesses, you broke the door later. Fair?

On 5/19/14, 7:37 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 5/17/14, 1:17 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 May 2014 15:06:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Are you still planning an illegal home invasion down here, or have your
age, infirmities and meds helped you decide against that form of
suicide?

I hope you get a fair trial.

Between the busted down door or window and the video tape and the history
of threats, I doubt there would be any charges.

no witnesses, you broke the door later. Fair?


You missed the part about the security videotape cameras, I suppose.

On 5/19/14, 9:11 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:51:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

videotape

I assume that is a euphemism.
Surely with all of that DASD at your house you are not using video
tape.

The oldy moldy W/98 security software is smart enough to save a local
copy and also send another copy just about anywhere you can connect to
(LAN or internet)



Indeed a euphemism, but I started my advertising career in the early
1970s when videotaping was just beginning to compete for commercials
with 35mm film. So, to it, it's videotape. Even if it is digital.

The first TV commercial I did, in fact, was a totally digital animation
recorded on videotape. It was for the state teacher union and promoted
their PAC ideas. The PAC director was a former NY state assemblyman, a
Republican. In those days, northern Republicans were mostly moderate and
pragmatic, and their ranks were not comprised of crazies like, oh, Scott
Ingersoll.