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Mr. Luddite

On 5/13/2014 3:30 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:06:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 1:26 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:21:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/13/14, 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2014 15:53:40 -0700, jps wrote:

Investigators found nearly two dozen guns and thousands of rounds of
ammunition lying around the Arizona home of a 3-year-old boy who
accidentally shot himself earlier this year.

I am totally in favor of the laws that require people to keep their
guns locked up but it is the law in every state to secure your
swimming pool, yet drowning is the most frequent cause of accidental
death in toddlers (1-5) and I do not see JPS or any of the other
lefties here demanding that those parents go to jail.
In fact gun deaths end up down in "other" in the tables for pre
adolescents (CDC WISQARS database) but from the hysteria, you would
think they were being killed in droves.

Right because everything is equal, right, right, right?

The question is why you "hysterians" think a kid dying from a gun
accident where the gun was improperly stored is any worse that dying
in a car, when they were illegally unrestrained, dying in an illegally
unprotected swimming pool or being poisoned from improperly stored
chemicals, in spite of the FACT that gun accidents barely move the
needle on the gauge of child deaths.
I would post sensational news stories of these other types of
accidents but they are not even unusual enough to make the news.
More toddlers are killed or injured from detergent pods than firearms
but they are still being advertised on TV and I see them in every
grocery store.

This story JPS posted is purely agenda based hysteria, not backed any
kind of reality.

Valid points and there's no question that gun control advocates will use
this as a rallying cry for more strict laws and controls in general.
The bottom line however is that parents are responsible for the well
being and safety of minor children period, regardless of the kind of
dangers and should be held accountable if they fail to perform their
parental responsibilities.

In some ways I sorta wish that accountability extended to more than
tragic accidents. Teaching and setting examples of responsible
behavior is also a parental responsibility. It seems that the trend has
become to defend inappropriate behavior than to instill it in kids.

Apparently, gun culture mirrors the parental model employed by most
families. Each family is free to determine how it operates, only
restricted by the boundaries put in place by our society.

So, if your kid doesn't end up in the hospital or show up at school
with a broken arm or bruised body from mistreatment or disregard,
anything goes.

What you're suggesting would require some common sense laws, like
those that exist for driving a car. Use the privilege recklessly and
lose it.

Those idiots in Arizona have no business owning guns if they cannot
abide by common sense behavior. They endanger themselves, their
children and any guests by their stupid behavior.

I think the mistake you are making in your assumptions is that the "gun
culture" in places like Arizona or Texas is the same as that in your
part of the world or mine. They aren't. Having firearms in those
communities is as common as a swimming pool in your back yard. Well,
maybe not *your* backyard but in many areas of the country.

As a sidebar note, having permits, legal fencing and meeting all the
lawful safety requirements of having a swimming pool does *not*
necessarily cause the pool owner to be held harmless in the event of an
accident, injury or death regardless of the victim's age. This was
explained to me years ago by my attorney. The only "hold harmless" law
that automatically protects the property owner against litigation are
old laws related to equestrian activities and only if notice of such are
posted.