On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



the majority of remaining union jobs are also

federal jobs.



Why is that?







The Davis Bacon Act



There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking

the fiscal life out of our cities.

They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so

their deals are budget busters.









And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.



Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal

jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private

contactors.



It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned

opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach

the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are

exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.



And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate

suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is

white man's work, eh?

Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?

On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



the majority of remaining union jobs are also

federal jobs.



Why is that?







The Davis Bacon Act



There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking

the fiscal life out of our cities.

They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so

their deals are budget busters.









And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.



Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal

jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private

contactors.



It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned

opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach

the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are

exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.



And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate

suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is

white man's work, eh?

Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?



No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be
criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills
result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,
or nasty pollution that makes people sick?

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:04:06 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:



On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"



wrote:







the majority of remaining union jobs are also



federal jobs.







Why is that?















The Davis Bacon Act







There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking



the fiscal life out of our cities.



They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so



their deals are budget busters.



















And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.







Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal



jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private



contactors.







It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned



opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach



the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are



exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.







And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate



suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is



white man's work, eh?



Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?







No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be

criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills

result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,

or nasty pollution that makes people sick?

No, but you said you admire people like that...

On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:47:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate
suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is
white man's work, eh?

===

And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.

On 4/19/14, 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:04:06 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:



On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"



wrote:







the majority of remaining union jobs are also



federal jobs.







Why is that?















The Davis Bacon Act







There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking



the fiscal life out of our cities.



They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so



their deals are budget busters.



















And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.







Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal



jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private



contactors.







It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned



opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach



the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are



exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.







And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate



suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is



white man's work, eh?



Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?







No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be

criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills

result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,

or nasty pollution that makes people sick?

No, but you said you admire people like that...


I certainly did admire the the good old days of labor union
organizers/negotiators, where the guys did whatever was necessary to get
workers a decent contract. Compared to today's corporate felons, the
good old boys were creampuffs.

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:38:01 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:04:06 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:



On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:







On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"







wrote:















the majority of remaining union jobs are also







federal jobs.















Why is that?































The Davis Bacon Act















There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking







the fiscal life out of our cities.







They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so







their deals are budget busters.







































And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.















Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal







jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private







contactors.















It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned







opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach







the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are







exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.















And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate







suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is







white man's work, eh?







Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?















No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be



criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills



result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,



or nasty pollution that makes people sick?



No, but you said you admire people like that...





I certainly did admire the the good old days of labor union

organizers/negotiators, where the guys did whatever was necessary to get

workers a decent contract. Compared to today's corporate felons, the

good old boys were creampuffs.

So you admire the extortioners, murders, lawless butchers and arsonists. Yeah, the pillars of labor.

On 4/19/14, 10:46 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:38:01 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:04:06 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:



On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:







On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"







wrote:















the majority of remaining union jobs are also







federal jobs.















Why is that?































The Davis Bacon Act















There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking







the fiscal life out of our cities.







They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so







their deals are budget busters.







































And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.















Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal







jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private







contactors.















It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned







opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach







the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are







exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.















And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate







suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is







white man's work, eh?







Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?















No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be



criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills



result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,



or nasty pollution that makes people sick?



No, but you said you admire people like that...





I certainly did admire the the good old days of labor union

organizers/negotiators, where the guys did whatever was necessary to get

workers a decent contract. Compared to today's corporate felons, the

good old boys were creampuffs.

So you admire the extortioners, murders, lawless butchers and arsonists. Yeah, the pillars of labor.


Those would be the pillars of bankstering, stock brokerage, and
corporate greed these days, Tim.

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:48:03 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 10:46 AM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:38:01 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/19/14, 10:10 AM, Tim wrote:



On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:04:06 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 4/19/14, 9:58 AM, Tim wrote:







On Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:47:31 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:







On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:















On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"















wrote:































the majority of remaining union jobs are also















federal jobs.































Why is that?































































The Davis Bacon Act































There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking















the fiscal life out of our cities.















They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so















their deals are budget busters.















































































And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.































Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal















jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private















contactors.































It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned















opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach















the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are















exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.































And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate















suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is















white man's work, eh?















Does Dave Bacon threaten to blow peoples brains out if thy dont' sign contracts in two minutes?































No. Do you think that would be a good idea? Do you think there should be







criminal penalties for corporate executives whose poor management skills







result in serious injuries or death to workers, or horrific explosions,







or nasty pollution that makes people sick?







No, but you said you admire people like that...











I certainly did admire the the good old days of labor union



organizers/negotiators, where the guys did whatever was necessary to get



workers a decent contract. Compared to today's corporate felons, the



good old boys were creampuffs.



So you admire the extortioners, murders, lawless butchers and arsonists. Yeah, the pillars of labor.





Those would be the pillars of bankstering, stock brokerage, and

corporate greed these days, Tim.

But you don't admire the banksters, only the thugs of the past. and probably wish they were more prevalent today.

On 4/19/14, 10:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:48:03 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:



So you admire the extortioners, murders, lawless butchers and arsonists. Yeah, the pillars of labor.





Those would be the pillars of bankstering, stock brokerage, and

corporate greed these days, Tim.

But you don't admire the banksters, only the thugs of the past. and probably wish they were more prevalent today.


I knew a few of the "old time" labor tough guys. They were far higher up
the ladder of decency than many of today's corporate gangsters. Even the
old style mobsters were far less crooked than, say, Merrill Lynch or
Goldman Sachs or Citibank, eh?

On 4/19/2014 9:47 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/19/14, 9:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:14:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

the majority of remaining union jobs are also
federal jobs.

Why is that?



The Davis Bacon Act

There are also the state/local government employees who are sucking
the fiscal life out of our cities.
They get to "negotiate" from both sides of the bargaining table so
their deals are budget busters.




And once again, you display your lack of knowledge.

Jobs covered under Davis Bacon are, for the most part, *not* federal
jobs. They are construction worker jobs for workers employed by private
contactors.

It's astonishing to me that so many of your righties here are so damned
opposed to hard-working men and women earning incomes that just reach
the bottom of the rung of the middle class. Yes, of course there are
exceptions, but the majority of these workers aren't big earners.

And, of course, you never bitch about the huge salaries the corporate
suits make. *That's* okay, because pushing paper or keyboard keys is
white man's work, eh?

At $120k, your friend is pretty far down on the salary list at the
Bricklayers. So how do those folks rate such salaries? They must be
doing "white man's work" Eh?