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F*O*A*D April 12th 14 02:22 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
Militias head to Nevada ranchers standoff with feds: Were not afraid
to shoot



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundys decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds whove circled
his land and talk is, theyre not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: Im not afraid to shoot, he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundys sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation was like a war zone
and that she felt like I was not in the United States, The Daily Mail
reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided, in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the ranchers son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundys
property, escalating a court dispute thats wound for two decades over
the ranchers refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundys view is that he owns his property that its been in his
familys hands for centuries and he doesnt have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the familys home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundys sons, Ammon Bundy,
was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through
his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up
and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was
hit from the back; it was like a football tackle and that they just
took me and threw me down to the ground, The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters who rallied to the familys defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep
up the fight.

This is what we do, we provide armed response, Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.

Mr. Lordy also said many more militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Califbill April 12th 14 02:59 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 03:42 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

[email protected] April 12th 14 06:19 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:22:40 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher's standoff with feds: We're not 'afraid

to shoot'







Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's decades-long battle against the federal

government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia

groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who've circled

his land -- and talk is, they're not afraid to open fire.



A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8

News Now: I'm not "afraid to shoot," he said.



Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy's sister and a cancer survivor, said at a

town hall gathering this week that the situation "was like a war zone"

and that she felt "like I was not in the United States," The Daily Mail

reported.



The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: "Serious bloodshed

was narrowly avoided," in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a

woman who was pregnant while the rancher's son was hit with a taser.



On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy's

property, escalating a court dispute that's wound for two decades over

the rancher's refusal to pay for grazing fees.



Mr. Bundy's view is that he owns his property -- that it's been in his

family's hands for centuries -- and he doesn't have to pay for his own

900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.



The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have

swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and

flying helicopters overhead the family's home.



Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy's sons, Ammon Bundy,

was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through

his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up

and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was

"hit from the back; it was like a football tackle" and that "they just

took me and threw me down to the ground," The Daily Mail reported.



BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when

protesters who rallied to the family's defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.



Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep

up the fight.



"This is what we do, we provide armed response," Jim Lordy, with

Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. "They have guns.

We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government."



Mr. Lordy also said "many more" militia groups are coming to the site to

join in the Bundy family defense.



"They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,"

another member told the Review-Journal.



Read mo

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX



- - -



If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this

country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


FLAGGED as Hateful. **** OFF krause...YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER ANYONE HERE.

Califbill April 12th 14 07:53 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.

Wayne.B April 12th 14 11:29 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:08:41 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:22:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Militias head to Nevada ranchers standoff with feds: Were not afraid
to shoot



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundys decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds whove circled
his land and talk is, theyre not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: Im not afraid to shoot, he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundys sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation was like a war zone
and that she felt like I was not in the United States, The Daily Mail
reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided, in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the ranchers son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundys
property, escalating a court dispute thats wound for two decades over
the ranchers refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundys view is that he owns his property that its been in his
familys hands for centuries and he doesnt have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the familys home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundys sons, Ammon Bundy,
was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through
his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up
and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was
hit from the back; it was like a football tackle and that they just
took me and threw me down to the ground, The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters who rallied to the familys defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep
up the fight.

This is what we do, we provide armed response, Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.

Mr. Lordy also said many more militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


There appears to be a little more to this than the story you cited
tells.

Harry Reid seems to be a big chunk of it.

"[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a
Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar
farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert, he
wrote. Reid has been one of the projects most prominent advocates,
helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying
his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.

His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is
representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert
site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County,
where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/


===

Heh, that certainly brings the story into the proper focus. Sounds
like they need a hunting season for these "trespass cattle". You
could free up the land for solar power and feed the poor all at the
same time.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 12th 14 12:29 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 1:08 AM, wrote:
If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

There appears to be a little more to this than the story you cited
tells.

Harry Reid seems to be a big chunk of it.


Nuff said on this topic.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 01:02 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 1:08 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 21:22:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid
to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail
reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy,
was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through
his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up
and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was
“hit from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just
took me and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep
up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country, these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.


There appears to be a little more to this than the story you cited
tells.

Harry Reid seems to be a big chunk of it.

"“[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a
Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar
farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he
wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates,
helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying
his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”

“His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is
representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert
site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County,
where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/


Two reports I read indicated Bundy was only renting the land in question
and hadn't paid rent for more than a decade. But the relevant fact is
that he and the morons he has gathered around him think they are going
to resolve this by a gunfight with the feds. Yes, that will resolve it.
Bundy and his gang of idiots will emerge...dead.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 01:03 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.

KC April 12th 14 02:10 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 9:07 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher?s standoff with feds: We?re not ?afraid to shoot?



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy?s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who?ve circled
his land ? and talk is, they?re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I?m not ?afraid to shoot,? he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy?s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation ?was like a war zone?
and that she felt ?like I was not in the United States,? The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: ?Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,? in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher?s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy?s
property, escalating a court dispute that?s wound for two decades over
the rancher?s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy?s view is that he owns his property ? that it?s been in his
family?s hands for centuries ? and he doesn?t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family?s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy?s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was ?hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle? and that ?they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,? The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family?s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

?This is what we do, we provide armed response,? Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. ?They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.?

Mr. Lordy also said ?many more? militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

?They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,?
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Our country was born from our engagement of the government in a
gunfight. Some died, many more lived and the greatest incubator of
innovation and wealth creation emerged.


If you dig a little you will see that this all ties back to the land, a
Chinese Solar firm, and dun, dun, dun.... Senator Harry Reid.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 02:29 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 9:10 AM, KC wrote:
On 4/12/2014 9:07 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher?s standoff with feds: We?re not
?afraid to shoot?



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy?s decades-long battle against the
federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who?ve
circled
his land ? and talk is, they?re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to
local 8
News Now: I?m not ?afraid to shoot,? he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy?s sister and a cancer survivor, said
at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation ?was like a war
zone?
and that she felt ?like I was not in the United States,? The
Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: ?Serious
bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,? in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher?s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr.
Bundy?s
property, escalating a court dispute that?s wound for two decades
over
the rancher?s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy?s view is that he owns his property ? that it?s been in
his
family?s hands for centuries ? and he doesn?t have to pay for his
own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and
agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family?s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy?s sons, Ammon
Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped
through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed
up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she
was ?hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle? and that ?they just
took me
and threw me down to the ground,? The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters
who rallied to the family?s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys
keep up the fight.

?This is what we do, we provide armed response,? Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. ?They
have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.?

Mr. Lordy also said ?many more? militia groups are coming to the
site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

?They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we
speak,?
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX


- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have
all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n
idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Our country was born from our engagement of the government in a
gunfight. Some died, many more lived and the greatest incubator of
innovation and wealth creation emerged.


If you dig a little you will see that this all ties back to the land, a
Chinese Solar firm, and dun, dun, dun.... Senator Harry Reid.



If you dig a little more, you'll see that Bundy doesn't own the land and
hasn't paid the required rent on it for more than a decade. But that's
not the issue. The issue is, if you engage the federal government in a
shooting match, you are going to lose.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 03:53 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:03:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Or if you are just reaching for your wallet like Amadou Diallo.

As long as you have a badge, you can shoot unarmed people at will.



Wow. You have problems in Baltimore, problems in DC, and problems with
cops. At least when I get shot at, it's for a reason like registering
minority voters, helping maritime workers join unions, or working for
land reform in Central America.



H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 12th 14 04:11 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 10:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:03:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Or if you are just reaching for your wallet like Amadou Diallo.

As long as you have a badge, you can shoot unarmed people at will.



Wow. You have problems in Baltimore, problems in DC, and problems with
cops. At least when I get shot at, it's for a reason like registering
minority voters, helping maritime workers join unions, or working for
land reform in Central America.


I wouldn't expect you to realize why people shoot at you. But hey! Make
up any story you like.

Mr. Luddite April 12th 14 04:38 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 9:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 9:10 AM, KC wrote:
On 4/12/2014 9:07 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher?s standoff with feds: We?re not
?afraid to shoot?



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy?s decades-long battle against the
federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where
militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who?ve
circled
his land ? and talk is, they?re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to
local 8
News Now: I?m not ?afraid to shoot,? he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy?s sister and a cancer survivor, said
at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation ?was like a war
zone?
and that she felt ?like I was not in the United States,? The
Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: ?Serious
bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,? in a story about how dogs were unleashed
on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher?s son was hit with a
taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr.
Bundy?s
property, escalating a court dispute that?s wound for two decades
over
the rancher?s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy?s view is that he owns his property ? that it?s been in
his
family?s hands for centuries ? and he doesn?t have to pay for his
own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte
property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and
agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family?s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy?s sons, Ammon
Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped
through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed
up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she
was ?hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle? and that ?they just
took me
and threw me down to the ground,? The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters
who rallied to the family?s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys
keep up the fight.

?This is what we do, we provide armed response,? Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. ?They
have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.?

Mr. Lordy also said ?many more? militia groups are coming to the
site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

?They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we
speak,?
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX



- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have
all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n
idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.

Our country was born from our engagement of the government in a
gunfight. Some died, many more lived and the greatest incubator of
innovation and wealth creation emerged.


If you dig a little you will see that this all ties back to the land, a
Chinese Solar firm, and dun, dun, dun.... Senator Harry Reid.



If you dig a little more, you'll see that Bundy doesn't own the land and
hasn't paid the required rent on it for more than a decade. But that's
not the issue. The issue is, if you engage the federal government in a
shooting match, you are going to lose.


Who instigated the conflict? Not Bundy. Not his neighbors. Not the
state. Not even the federal government until Reid got involved along
with his son with a deal to have the Chinese build a solar energy site.
First it was endangered "dessert tortoises". What a joke.

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 04:42 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 11:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/12/2014 9:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 9:10 AM, KC wrote:
On 4/12/2014 9:07 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher?s standoff with feds: We?re not
?afraid to shoot?



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy?s decades-long battle against the
federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where
militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who?ve
circled
his land ? and talk is, they?re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to
local 8
News Now: I?m not ?afraid to shoot,? he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy?s sister and a cancer survivor, said
at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation ?was like a war
zone?
and that she felt ?like I was not in the United States,? The
Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: ?Serious
bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,? in a story about how dogs were unleashed
on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher?s son was hit with a
taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr.
Bundy?s
property, escalating a court dispute that?s wound for two decades
over
the rancher?s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy?s view is that he owns his property ? that it?s been in
his
family?s hands for centuries ? and he doesn?t have to pay for his
own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte
property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and
agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property
and
flying helicopters overhead the family?s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy?s sons, Ammon
Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped
through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed
up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she
was ?hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle? and that ?they just
took me
and threw me down to the ground,? The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when
protesters
who rallied to the family?s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys
keep up the fight.

?This is what we do, we provide armed response,? Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. ?They
have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.?

Mr. Lordy also said ?many more? militia groups are coming to the
site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

?They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we
speak,?
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX




- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this
country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have
all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n
idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.

Our country was born from our engagement of the government in a
gunfight. Some died, many more lived and the greatest incubator of
innovation and wealth creation emerged.


If you dig a little you will see that this all ties back to the land, a
Chinese Solar firm, and dun, dun, dun.... Senator Harry Reid.



If you dig a little more, you'll see that Bundy doesn't own the land and
hasn't paid the required rent on it for more than a decade. But that's
not the issue. The issue is, if you engage the federal government in a
shooting match, you are going to lose.


Who instigated the conflict? Not Bundy. Not his neighbors. Not the
state. Not even the federal government until Reid got involved along
with his son with a deal to have the Chinese build a solar energy site.
First it was endangered "dessert tortoises". What a joke.



Heheh. You fellows just don't get it. The point is, if you start an
armed battle with the feds or locals in this country, you are going to
.... *lose* .

F*O*A*D April 12th 14 05:06 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 11:54 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 10:53:29 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/12/14, 10:35 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:03:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.

Or if you are just reaching for your wallet like Amadou Diallo.

As long as you have a badge, you can shoot unarmed people at will.



Wow. You have problems in Baltimore, problems in DC, and problems with
cops. At least when I get shot at, it's for a reason like registering
minority voters, helping maritime workers join unions, or working for
land reform in Central America.


Is that another non-responsive utterance or are you saying the cops
were shooting at you?


The first time, in Mississippi, it was just a carful of racist morons.
The second time, in Central America, several people in our group,
sitting at an adjacent table, were assassinated by government soldiers.
The third time, in Louisiana, it was by a rent-a-cop while we were just
outside a commercial supply ship facility at the waterfront.

jps April 12th 14 06:53 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:53:31 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada ranchers standoff with feds: Were not afraid to shoot



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundys decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds whove circled
his land and talk is, theyre not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: Im not afraid to shoot, he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundys sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation was like a war zone
and that she felt like I was not in the United States, The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided, in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the ranchers son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundys
property, escalating a court dispute thats wound for two decades over
the ranchers refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundys view is that he owns his property that its been in his
familys hands for centuries and he doesnt have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the familys home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundys sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle and that they just took me
and threw me down to the ground, The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the familys defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

This is what we do, we provide armed response, Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.

Mr. Lordy also said many more militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.


You represent your thoughts as if they were his and then call him
sick.

Boating All Out April 12th 14 10:21 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:42:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Heheh. You fellows just don't get it. The point is, if you start an
armed battle with the feds or locals in this country, you are going to
... *lose* .


I don't think they ever wanted to actually start an armed
insurrection. They just wanted a little publicity and to shine a light
on a government abuse of a guy who's family has been ranching this
patch for 140 years when nobody thought this patch of desert was
anything attractive.. In that regard it worked. If you don't get a gun
in the story, the media won't carry it. (you only have to look at how
fast the story about 38 people being stabbed in a school went away).
I am not saying some trigger happy cop might not make it a shooting
war That is what happened at Ruby Ridge.

As for the tortoise, the best thing they could do is let the cows
stay. They do not threaten the tortoise in any way. A chinese
manufacturing plant and a solar farm definitely will. It certainly
will be covered up but if one of those burrows gets in the way, the
tortoise will be killed and the burrow covered up by whatever they
want to build there.


What a crock. Conspiracy theories. Sure Nancy Pelosi isn't involved?
The guy has been deadbeating the gov for 20 years, and owes $1.1 million
in fees.
Right-wing wacko rancher who decides not to pay the fees for grazing his
cattle on federal land and ****ing up the environment.
Simple as that.
Sure do have some illogical people on this newsgroup.
"Republicans?" Conservatives?"
Or wackos?


F*O*A*D April 13th 14 12:20 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 5:21 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:42:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Heheh. You fellows just don't get it. The point is, if you start an
armed battle with the feds or locals in this country, you are going to
... *lose* .


I don't think they ever wanted to actually start an armed
insurrection. They just wanted a little publicity and to shine a light
on a government abuse of a guy who's family has been ranching this
patch for 140 years when nobody thought this patch of desert was
anything attractive.. In that regard it worked. If you don't get a gun
in the story, the media won't carry it. (you only have to look at how
fast the story about 38 people being stabbed in a school went away).
I am not saying some trigger happy cop might not make it a shooting
war That is what happened at Ruby Ridge.

As for the tortoise, the best thing they could do is let the cows
stay. They do not threaten the tortoise in any way. A chinese
manufacturing plant and a solar farm definitely will. It certainly
will be covered up but if one of those burrows gets in the way, the
tortoise will be killed and the burrow covered up by whatever they
want to build there.


What a crock. Conspiracy theories. Sure Nancy Pelosi isn't involved?
The guy has been deadbeating the gov for 20 years, and owes $1.1 million
in fees.
Right-wing wacko rancher who decides not to pay the fees for grazing his
cattle on federal land and ****ing up the environment.
Simple as that.
Sure do have some illogical people on this newsgroup.
"Republicans?" Conservatives?"
Or wackos?




Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same
political party.

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 04:07 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/14, 10:20 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same
political party.


Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.



All political parties have their share of hypocrites. Your party,
however, pretty much has the market cornered on wackos in its elected
officials, party functionaries, and "affinity" groups.

Boating All Out April 13th 14 04:23 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
In article ,
says...


Lets start from the top. Is grazing cattle "****ing up" the tortoise
habitat more than a factory and a solar farm?


What factory or solar farm?
That's your right-wing conspiracy.
Hey, your right to believe that bull****.

Before you answer. Cattle farms are generally considered tortoise
sanctuaries here.

The fees were not even brought up until the government wanted that
property for something else that involved big contributors.

You "money in politics" people need to be consistent.


This started in 1993, long before solar farms.
This isn't about tortoises. It's about grazing fees and a lawbreaker.
They have been after this asshole since 1999 for not paying the fees.
He lost in court.
He's just another wacko deadbeat.
No doubt he'd **** up the environment if he could.
He doesn't care about the law.
Hey, you a Jesse James fan?

KC April 13th 14 04:39 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 10:20 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same
political party.


Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.


Thief, murderer, liar, cheat, traitor, sell out, coward... did I forget any?

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 13th 14 07:20 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/12/2014 11:07 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 10:20 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same
political party.


Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.



All political parties have their share of hypocrites. Your party,
however, pretty much has the market cornered on wackos in its elected
officials, party functionaries, and "affinity" groups.

How's Guam doing? Has it tipped over yet?

John H.[_5_] April 13th 14 08:55 AM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:20:21 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 4/12/2014 11:07 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/12/14, 10:20 PM, wrote:


On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same


political party.




Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.








All political parties have their share of hypocrites. Your party,


however, pretty much has the market cornered on wackos in its elected


officials, party functionaries, and "affinity" groups.


How's Guam doing? Has it tipped over yet?


I find it hard to believe that a troll posted by Krause generated this entire thread.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 13th 14 12:49 PM

Armed morons ready to take on the feds
 
On 4/13/2014 3:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:20:21 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 4/12/2014 11:07 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/12/14, 10:20 PM, wrote:


On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same


political party.




Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.








All political parties have their share of hypocrites. Your party,


however, pretty much has the market cornered on wackos in its elected


officials, party functionaries, and "affinity" groups.


How's Guam doing? Has it tipped over yet?


I find it hard to believe that a troll posted by Krause generated this entire thread.

I find it hard to believe that the gunslingers shooting at Krause missed
a target so tall, wide, and ugly, three times.

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 12:55 PM

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On 4/13/14, 3:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:20:21 AM UTC-4, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 4/12/2014 11:07 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/12/14, 10:20 PM, wrote:


On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:20:09 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




Republican, Conservative, and Wacko pretty much describe the same


political party.




Hypocrite and democrat seem to go together pretty well too.








All political parties have their share of hypocrites. Your party,


however, pretty much has the market cornered on wackos in its elected


officials, party functionaries, and "affinity" groups.


How's Guam doing? Has it tipped over yet?


I find it hard to believe that a troll posted by Krause generated this entire thread.


How's your Spring in Europe Neonazi Tour going, Johnnycakes? Find any
new hobbies to fill the emptiness of your existence?

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 01:07 PM

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On 4/12/14, 11:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Lets start from the top. Is grazing cattle "****ing up" the tortoise
habitat more than a factory and a solar farm?


What factory or solar farm?
That's your right-wing conspiracy.
Hey, your right to believe that bull****.

Before you answer. Cattle farms are generally considered tortoise
sanctuaries here.

The fees were not even brought up until the government wanted that
property for something else that involved big contributors.

You "money in politics" people need to be consistent.


This started in 1993, long before solar farms.
This isn't about tortoises. It's about grazing fees and a lawbreaker.
They have been after this asshole since 1999 for not paying the fees.
He lost in court.
He's just another wacko deadbeat.
No doubt he'd **** up the environment if he could.
He doesn't care about the law.
Hey, you a Jesse James fan?


Greg lives in a state where the government is about to allow a major
polluting activity, the drilling of an oil and gas waste disposal well
in prime habitat for the endangered Florida panther in south Florida, a
well that may also endanger the aquifer from which Floridians get their
drinking water.

"May endanger," because "no one will know how dangerous it is because
there are no requirements that the contents be disclosed. Oil and gas
wastes have been shown to contain toxic substances which endanger both
human health and the environment, but Congress exempted them from
federal hazardous waste law back in the 1980s. Because of this loophole,
oil and gas waste disposal wells arent built to standards needed to
protect underground sources of drinking water from hazardous
waste--regardless of how toxic the waste may be."

http://tinyurl.com/qxltpqt

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 13th 14 01:53 PM

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On 4/13/2014 8:07 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 11:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Lets start from the top. Is grazing cattle "****ing up" the tortoise
habitat more than a factory and a solar farm?


What factory or solar farm?
That's your right-wing conspiracy.
Hey, your right to believe that bull****.

Before you answer. Cattle farms are generally considered tortoise
sanctuaries here.

The fees were not even brought up until the government wanted that
property for something else that involved big contributors.

You "money in politics" people need to be consistent.


This started in 1993, long before solar farms.
This isn't about tortoises. It's about grazing fees and a lawbreaker.
They have been after this asshole since 1999 for not paying the fees.
He lost in court.
He's just another wacko deadbeat.
No doubt he'd **** up the environment if he could.
He doesn't care about the law.
Hey, you a Jesse James fan?


Greg lives in a state where the government is about to allow a major
polluting activity, the drilling of an oil and gas waste disposal well
in prime habitat for the endangered Florida panther in south Florida, a
well that may also endanger the aquifer from which Floridians get their
drinking water.

"May endanger," because "no one will know how dangerous it is because
there are no requirements that the contents be disclosed. Oil and gas
wastes have been shown to contain toxic substances which endanger both
human health and the environment, but Congress exempted them from
federal hazardous waste law back in the 1980s. Because of this loophole,
oil and gas waste disposal wells arent built to standards needed to
protect underground sources of drinking water from hazardous
waste--regardless of how toxic the waste may be."

http://tinyurl.com/qxltpqt


YOU come up with proper standards then get your buddies in DC to monitor
and enforce them. Can you handle that? ;-)

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 04:40 PM

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On 4/13/14, 11:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 08:07:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/12/14, 11:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Lets start from the top. Is grazing cattle "****ing up" the tortoise
habitat more than a factory and a solar farm?


What factory or solar farm?
That's your right-wing conspiracy.
Hey, your right to believe that bull****.

Before you answer. Cattle farms are generally considered tortoise
sanctuaries here.

The fees were not even brought up until the government wanted that
property for something else that involved big contributors.

You "money in politics" people need to be consistent.

This started in 1993, long before solar farms.
This isn't about tortoises. It's about grazing fees and a lawbreaker.
They have been after this asshole since 1999 for not paying the fees.
He lost in court.
He's just another wacko deadbeat.
No doubt he'd **** up the environment if he could.
He doesn't care about the law.
Hey, you a Jesse James fan?


Greg lives in a state where the government is about to allow a major
polluting activity, the drilling of an oil and gas waste disposal well
in prime habitat for the endangered Florida panther in south Florida, a
well that may also endanger the aquifer from which Floridians get their
drinking water.

"May endanger," because "no one will know how dangerous it is because
there are no requirements that the contents be disclosed. Oil and gas
wastes have been shown to contain toxic substances which endanger both
human health and the environment, but Congress exempted them from
federal hazardous waste law back in the 1980s. Because of this loophole,
oil and gas waste disposal wells aren’t built to standards needed to
protect underground sources of drinking water from hazardous
waste--regardless of how toxic the waste may be."

http://tinyurl.com/qxltpqt

There is no such thing as the Florida Panther anymore. They are just
garden variety mountain lions since they were cross bread with Texas
cougars.
There are already plenty of oil wells here with no ill effect on the
cougars or the aquifers. It turns out these cats have no problem
living around people. The people do have a problem with the cats tho,
when they start losing pets, farm animals and wondering when a kid
will be next.
These are the same cats that eat joggers in California.
Maybe we should drop a dozen in Southern Md and let you "enjoy" them
too.


Greg the Anti-Environmentalist. Love it.

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 08:22 PM

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On 4/13/14, 2:44 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:40:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 11:14 AM,
wrote:

There is no such thing as the Florida Panther anymore. They are just
garden variety mountain lions since they were cross bread with Texas
cougars.
There are already plenty of oil wells here with no ill effect on the
cougars or the aquifers. It turns out these cats have no problem
living around people. The people do have a problem with the cats tho,
when they start losing pets, farm animals and wondering when a kid
will be next.
These are the same cats that eat joggers in California.
Maybe we should drop a dozen in Southern Md and let you "enjoy" them
too.


Greg the Anti-Environmentalist. Love it.


I do understand how the endangered species act is written.

The "Florida Panther" lost it's endangered status, legally, over 2
decades ago and a court case proved it.
When people bring it up they are simply hoping nobody actually
understands it. You fell for the lie but that is not shocking.


You're confused. You're hung up on definitions and I'm saying if there
are big cats living in the areas under question they should be left
alone. They certainly are as valuable a resource as any of the rednecks
who live in your area.

F*O*A*D April 13th 14 08:58 PM

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On 4/13/14, 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:22:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 2:44 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:40:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 11:14 AM,
wrote:

There is no such thing as the Florida Panther anymore. They are just
garden variety mountain lions since they were cross bread with Texas
cougars.
There are already plenty of oil wells here with no ill effect on the
cougars or the aquifers. It turns out these cats have no problem
living around people. The people do have a problem with the cats tho,
when they start losing pets, farm animals and wondering when a kid
will be next.
These are the same cats that eat joggers in California.
Maybe we should drop a dozen in Southern Md and let you "enjoy" them
too.


Greg the Anti-Environmentalist. Love it.

I do understand how the endangered species act is written.

The "Florida Panther" lost it's endangered status, legally, over 2
decades ago and a court case proved it.
When people bring it up they are simply hoping nobody actually
understands it. You fell for the lie but that is not shocking.


You're confused. You're hung up on definitions and I'm saying if there
are big cats living in the areas under question they should be left
alone. They certainly are as valuable a resource as any of the rednecks
who live in your area.


I guess the part you don't understand is we are talking about Golden
Gate Estates, a place about as densely populated as where you live. It
is certainly not a wilderness area.

The real problem with the cougars is that they are territorial and the
available territories are already occupied so they are expanding their
range into residential areas. We have the same problem with the bears.
I am sure you would be complaining to someone if a bear broke into
your house looking for a meal.
You might even shoot it if it was between you and the door.



My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

F*O*A*D April 14th 14 02:59 AM

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On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."


It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.

Califbill April 14th 14 05:16 AM

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jps wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 01:53:31 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.


You represent your thoughts as if they were his and then call him
sick.


And you sound stupid.

Califbill April 14th 14 05:16 AM

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

Read mo
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

- - -

If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.


I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Yup, murdered with little consequence.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 14th 14 08:50 AM

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On 4/13/2014 9:59 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."


It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.


With your common sense lacking so badly, you should find a safer hobby.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d April 14th 14 08:51 AM

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On 4/13/2014 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.


Filling a void in your life?

A black hole!

F*O*A*D April 14th 14 11:38 AM

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On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.


Filling a void in your life?


A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you
don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who
is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used
to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work
at it a day or two a week.

Mr. Luddite April 14th 14 12:25 PM

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On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another
door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.


Filling a void in your life?


A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you
don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who
is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used
to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work
at it a day or two a week.


Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is
the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years?

For example, you should consider once in a while that your past
association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also
manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly
"mainstream". You are the oddity, not others.



F*O*A*D April 14th 14 12:47 PM

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On 4/14/14, 7:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/14/2014 6:38 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/13/14, 11:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:59:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/13/14, 8:34 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 15:58:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


My wife thinks there is a bear of some sort in the woods behind the
house. She saw a "large, brownish/blackish animal, much bigger than a
German shepherd and not a deer" moving quickly back there.

Oh...if a bear was blocking my way to the door, I'd go to another
door.
I wouldn't shoot it. I don't walk around the yard "armed."

It is probably good you think that way, That antique 19th century
technology pistol you bought would just **** a bear off.
I just hope the bear cooperates and does not attack. It is actually
pretty rare for a bear to attack, unless it wants to eat your cat or
something.


Firearms are just a hobby for me, Greg.

Filling a void in your life?


A few hobbies can be fun. Devoting your life to hobbies says to me you
don't have much that is meaningful in it. No one I really know well who
is my age or older and ambulatory is fully retired from what they used
to do for a living or as a volunteer for others, even if they only work
at it a day or two a week.


Why is it that you come across as having the attitude that *your* way is
the *only* way one should live life or enjoy their retirement years?

For example, you should consider once in a while that your past
association and involvement with unions and union causes which has also
manifested itself prominently in your political views are not exactly
"mainstream". You are the oddity, not others.


I just checked the non-existent rules here, and didn't find one that
stated you have to agree with my opinions.

I will admit that my years of working with labor unions and their
members taught me that working men and women are not serfs, and that
being in favor of decent wages, safe working conditions, easily
available health care, a reasonable retirement, et cetera, puts me on
the correct side of those issues. Capital is not on a higher plane than
labor.

F*O*A*D April 14th 14 12:48 PM

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On 4/14/14, 12:16 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/12/14, 2:53 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/11/14, 9:59 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’



Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal
government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia
groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled
his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.

A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8
News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.

Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a
town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone”
and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed
was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a
woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.

On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s
property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over
the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.

Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his
family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own
900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.

The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have
swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and
flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.

Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was
tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his
shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and
manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit
from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me
and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.

BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters
who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.

Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.

“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with
Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns.
We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”

Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to
join in the Bundy family defense.

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,”
another member told the Review-Journal.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz2ydAJtcrX

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If a gunfight breaks out, I hope the feds kill them all. In this country,
these sorts of disputes are supposed to be settled in court.

Well, I guess that union disputes that turn violent, should have all the
union members killed that are at the violence location! Frik'n idiot. I
guess that Waco and Ruby Ridge are high on your approval list.



You're a funny guy, Zell.

I may be funny, but you are sick.



Waco and Ruby Ridge prove that if you engage the government in a
gunfight, you are probably going to die.


Yup, murdered with little consequence.


The lesson, which right-wing dummies never seem to learn, is that a gang
of morons with pop guns isn't going to be able to hold off the local
sheriff, much less the United States government.


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