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On 4/11/14, 6:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/11/2014 5:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:07:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

In the past if you wanted to buy a modern firearm here, you filled
out a
couple of forms at the gunshop. If the purchase was a rifle or shotgun,
the usual phone background check was made and if you were ok, you took
the gun home that day. If you were buying a handgun, you had to wait
seven to 10 business days while the state police completed an
additional
background check.

Simple enough.

Now, there's another layer.

If you are a civilian with no military background and you are not a
cop,
you have to obtain a state Handgun Qualification License (HQL), and
there are several variables.

First time purchasers of handguns have to show proof they've taken a
qualifying handgun training course. I think that is a good idea.

Those without an existing carry permit also have to have submitted on
their behalf ($50) a set of electronic fingerprints taken by a
couple of
local sheriff offices or by commercial vendors.

Everyone has to get the HQL and some get a pass on the training and
fingerprinting.

It takes the state about a week to issue the HQL.

The net effect is that the costs involved in obtaining a handgun have
gone up and are now about $100 if you have to get fingerprinted, and
another $25 if you have to get training, and the new processes add
about
two weeks to getting the final OK from the staties.

OK, I guess they have fixed that crime problem. Maybe it is safe to go
to Bulletmore again. (last year they murdered 333)
I am sure all of those gang bangers are lining up for their HQL.
They can save the $100 because the cops already have their
fingerprints.

If you possessed said handgun prior to October 1st 2013 you do not need
to obtain an HQL to continue to posses said handgun after October 1st
2013. Therefore, if the criminals already had their illegally obtained
handguns in their possession they are not required to obtain an HQL to
continue to posses their illegal handguns.

The fingerprints have to be scanned electronically from your finger
tips. No paper and ink prints are accepted. No prior prints are
acceptable either. Mine have been on-file with the feds since I was 16,
when I was hired by the USDA.

Massachusetts requires ink fingerprints for the permit. The state also
required an electronic fingerprint check at the time of each gun
purchase from a dealer up to about 6 months ago. Dealers had the
electronic pad and it was included in the background check they made at
time of purchase. For every purchase, regardless of how long you had a
permit, a criminal background check along with the electronic
fingerprint was required. The dealer electronic fingerprint check was
eliminated however. They now require a "PIN" number that is issued with
your permit.

Funny thing is, I can buy or sell a firearm from or to anyone without
any checks as long as we each have an active and appropriate MA permit.
It's up to the buyer and seller to confirm. A transaction report is
required however but it can be done easily on-line at the time of transfer.

Do you know why they dropped the electronic fingerprint scan? A statie I
know says he thinks it was added here because a large number of private
security firms which had the scanning devices wanted an increased
revenue stream. If I had to get it done, I'd go to one of the local
sheriff's offices that does it. Same price, but one less corporate whore
with a payday. When I got my first carry permit, an ordinary ink
fingerprint card from the local sheriff's office was good enough, and
was either free or $5 or $10.

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