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Tim February 24th 14 11:20 PM

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Harry, a cut and paste just for you...

DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.

A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.

The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.

"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.

Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.

The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.

The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.

Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.

An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.

Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.


http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-

F*O*A*D February 24th 14 11:29 PM

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On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry, a cut and paste just for you...

DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.

A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.

The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.

"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.

Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.

The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.

The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.

Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.

An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.

Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.


http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-



Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?

Poco Loco February 24th 14 11:56 PM

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:20:49 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Harry, a cut and paste just for you...

DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.

A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.

The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.

"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.

Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.

The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.

The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.

Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.

An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.

Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.


http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-


Cool story.

I'm sure Foad will have to exercise his theophobia with this one.


Poco Loco February 25th 14 12:00 AM

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On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:29:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry, a cut and paste just for you...

DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.

A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.

The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.

"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.

Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.

The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.

The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.

Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.

An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.

Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.


http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-



Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?


Right on schedule! Nothing to be afraid of or hate here, foad. Jesus probably has more to do with
the new testament than does Moses, for example.

But you knew that, eh?


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 01:14 AM

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On 2/24/14, 7:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:29:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:
Harry, a cut and paste just for you...

DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.

A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.

The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.

"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.

Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.

The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.

The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.

Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.

An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.

Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.


http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-



Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?


Right on schedule! Nothing to be afraid of or hate here, foad. Jesus probably has more to do with
the new testament than does Moses, for example.

But you knew that, eh?


Yeah, Moses has no more to do with the new testament than Jesus. Correct.

Tim February 25th 14 03:12 AM

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On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14:13 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/24/14, 7:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:29:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:




On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:


Harry, a cut and paste just for you...




DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.




A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.




The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.




"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.




Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.




The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.




The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.




The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.




Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.




An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.




Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.






http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-








Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?




Right on schedule! Nothing to be afraid of or hate here, foad. Jesus probably has more to do with


the new testament than does Moses, for example.




But you knew that, eh?






Yeah, Moses has no more to do with the new testament than Jesus. Correct.


wrong. They both did.

F*O*A*D February 25th 14 11:18 AM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/24/14, 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14:13 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/24/14, 7:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:29:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:




On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:


Harry, a cut and paste just for you...




DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.




A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.




The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.




"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.




Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.




The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.




The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.




The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.




Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.




An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.




Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.






http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-








Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?




Right on schedule! Nothing to be afraid of or hate here, foad. Jesus probably has more to do with


the new testament than does Moses, for example.




But you knew that, eh?






Yeah, Moses has no more to do with the new testament than Jesus. Correct.


wrong. They both did.



Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new
testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee
hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Tim February 25th 14 12:24 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.


Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 12:53 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.


Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.

Poco Loco February 25th 14 01:14 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 06:18:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/24/14, 10:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:14:13 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/24/14, 7:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:29:13 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 2/24/14, 6:20 PM, Tim wrote:

Harry, a cut and paste just for you...



DAYTON, OH (CBS/WHIO) -- A Dayton RTA bus driver was involved in a shooting this morning and police say some sort of "intervention" may have saved his life.



A New Testament bible in the front pocket of the RTA bus driver's shirt pocket took two bullets that suspects had aimed at the victim's chest.



The bullets did not penetrate into the victim's chest, police said.



"There was obviously some kind of intervention involved in this incident because he (the driver) should probably not be here," said Dayton Police Sgt. Michael Pauley.



Police and medics were first dispatched to the area of Lakeview Avenue and Lakeside Drive off of Gettysburg Avenue. An RTA bus driver told police he had been shot by three males.



The bus driver had parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue after it had stopped running. As he was outside of the bus assessing how to fix the problem, the three suspects came up to him and said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.



The suspects had at least one gun and a knife. Three shots were fired, one striking the driver in the leg and the other two penetrating the bible in his chest pocket. The suspects also stabbed the victim on the left arm, police said.



The driver got back in the bus and drove to the Westown Shopping Center on West 3rd Street, where medics met him. The victim was taken to the hospital, but is expected to be okay, police said.



Police said the suspects are three young, black males, possibly between the ages of 15 to 18 years old.



An investigation around the area of the shooting closed Lakeview Avenue between Germantown Pike and Dennison Avenue closed until around 6:40 a.m.



Police continue to investigate the motive shooting, which they do not believe was an attempted robbery.





http://www.thv11.com/news/article/29...io-bus-driver-







Nice story, but what does Jesus have to do with the "New Testament" bible?



Right on schedule! Nothing to be afraid of or hate here, foad. Jesus probably has more to do with

the new testament than does Moses, for example.



But you knew that, eh?





Yeah, Moses has no more to do with the new testament than Jesus. Correct.


wrong. They both did.



Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new
testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee
hundreds of years after Jesus died.


Who said anything about 'writing', foad?

I'll bet Robert E. Lee didn't write, 'Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era', either.

So what, eh?


Poco Loco February 25th 14 02:58 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.


Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.


Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 03:08 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.


Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."

Hank February 25th 14 03:13 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/25/2014 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.


Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.

Harry's confusion is testament to the complexity and ambiguity of the
English language. English is a difficult language and it appears that
Harry hasn't quite mastered it yet. Maybe he'll have better luck with
Spanish.

Poco Loco February 25th 14 03:36 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.


Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."


Well, at least you're back off the 'Jesus didn't write the New Testament' bull****. I can better
understand your complaints made last week about gas mileage. You're constantly changing directions
and shifting lanes. It's no damn wonder you get ****ty gas mileage. I suppose it's the liberal artsy
education.


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 03:45 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/25/14, 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.

Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."


Well, at least you're back off the 'Jesus didn't write the New Testament' bull****. I can better
understand your complaints made last week about gas mileage. You're constantly changing directions
and shifting lanes. It's no damn wonder you get ****ty gas mileage. I suppose it's the liberal artsy
education.



And once again you are demonstrating your inability to read for
comprehension. Why would I complain about the gas mileage on a loaner
car that I was only to be driving a couple of days. I did report on the
MPG's I was getting.

Oh, and Jesus didn't write the new testament or in fact anything else,
eh. Amazing that someone who allegedly was the son of the creator didn't
live one tangible thing behind, not even a scroll.

Hank February 25th 14 04:32 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/25/2014 10:45 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Oh, and Jesus didn't write the new testament or in fact anything else,
eh. Amazing that someone who allegedly was the son of the creator didn't
live one tangible thing behind, not even a scroll.


In those days there was no Kansas Clown Collige to spawn great writers. ;-)

Poco Loco February 25th 14 04:43 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:45:27 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.

Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."


Well, at least you're back off the 'Jesus didn't write the New Testament' bull****. I can better
understand your complaints made last week about gas mileage. You're constantly changing directions
and shifting lanes. It's no damn wonder you get ****ty gas mileage. I suppose it's the liberal artsy
education.



And once again you are demonstrating your inability to read for
comprehension. Why would I complain about the gas mileage on a loaner
car that I was only to be driving a couple of days. I did report on the
MPG's I was getting.

Oh, and Jesus didn't write the new testament or in fact anything else,
eh. Amazing that someone who allegedly was the son of the creator didn't
live one tangible thing behind, not even a scroll.


Once again you miss the entire point.

Jesus most likely didn't have the liberal artsy education you had. Being the son of poor folks, he
probably didn't get into Yale.

Doesn't the theophobic **** get old? Here, think about something pertinent for a change:

"Democrats Have 'Culture of Corruption' They Once Blamed GOP for:

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/dms-culture-corruption-gop/2013/07/25/id/517037


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 04:53 PM

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On 2/25/14, 11:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:45:27 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.

Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."

Well, at least you're back off the 'Jesus didn't write the New Testament' bull****. I can better
understand your complaints made last week about gas mileage. You're constantly changing directions
and shifting lanes. It's no damn wonder you get ****ty gas mileage. I suppose it's the liberal artsy
education.



And once again you are demonstrating your inability to read for
comprehension. Why would I complain about the gas mileage on a loaner
car that I was only to be driving a couple of days. I did report on the
MPG's I was getting.

Oh, and Jesus didn't write the new testament or in fact anything else,
eh. Amazing that someone who allegedly was the son of the creator didn't
live one tangible thing behind, not even a scroll.


Once again you miss the entire point.

Jesus most likely didn't have the liberal artsy education you had. Being the son of poor folks, he
probably didn't get into Yale.



And once again you reveal your lack of liberal arts knowledge. Yes,
knowledge of religion falls under the liberal arts.

1. If Jesus were indeed the son of god, why would he need to receive a
formal education to know how to read and write? Would god create an
illiterate son?

2. Here's an easier one just for you. Jesus supposedly was an itinerant
teacher of the Torah and if he were, he was taught his knowledge of
Torah, the total knowledge base of things Jewish up until his time. This
would require the ability to read and write. You can hardly be a teacher
of the Torah without that ability. So, if Jesus was a teacher of the
Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even
a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?


Poco Loco February 25th 14 05:41 PM

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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:53:38 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 11:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:45:27 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 10:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:08:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:53:17 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 7:24 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new

testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee

hundreds of years after Jesus died.

Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.



If you are referring to the history of the new testament, I do
understand how it came about and how various elements were assembled by,
of all things, a committee commissioned by the government. My statement
stands...neither Moses nor Jesus had a thing to do with the writing of
the new testament.

Just as Stonewall Jackson had nothing to do with the writing of the history of the Civil War.



Ahh, but Stonewall Jackson was a real historical figure whose exploits
were described pretty much accurately contemporaneously to his life,
and, though he was a brilliant military leader, what he did did not
involve superstition, extra-natural events, speaking with spirits, and
all the other really weird stuff connected with religion. You know...10
plagues, parting the waters of the Red Sea, burning bushes, tablets
chiseled by the hand of god, bringing the dead back to life, walking on
water.

And of course there were plenty of highly educated people who got to
witness and write first-hand accounts of Jackson's deeds. While there is
plenty of folklore connected with Jackson, there is plenty of accurate
description, too, and there is no doubt he was a real person.

Moses and Jesus? I suppose one can take all of that on faith. There's
nothing else though which to prove any of their "big stuff."

Well, at least you're back off the 'Jesus didn't write the New Testament' bull****. I can better
understand your complaints made last week about gas mileage. You're constantly changing directions
and shifting lanes. It's no damn wonder you get ****ty gas mileage. I suppose it's the liberal artsy
education.



And once again you are demonstrating your inability to read for
comprehension. Why would I complain about the gas mileage on a loaner
car that I was only to be driving a couple of days. I did report on the
MPG's I was getting.

Oh, and Jesus didn't write the new testament or in fact anything else,
eh. Amazing that someone who allegedly was the son of the creator didn't
live one tangible thing behind, not even a scroll.


Once again you miss the entire point.

Jesus most likely didn't have the liberal artsy education you had. Being the son of poor folks, he
probably didn't get into Yale.



And once again you reveal your lack of liberal arts knowledge. Yes,
knowledge of religion falls under the liberal arts.

1. If Jesus were indeed the son of god, why would he need to receive a
formal education to know how to read and write? Would god create an
illiterate son?

Your parents did.

2. Here's an easier one just for you. Jesus supposedly was an itinerant
teacher of the Torah and if he were, he was taught his knowledge of
Torah, the total knowledge base of things Jewish up until his time. This
would require the ability to read and write. You can hardly be a teacher
of the Torah without that ability. So, if Jesus was a teacher of the
Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even
a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?


'Just for me'? Are you writing 'just for me', or with the hopes that others will read your comments
and think, "Oh what a witty person that FOAD is!"

And my goodness, do you really believe that the ability to teach is dependent upon an ability to
read and write? That would imply you knew nothing until you learned to read, and you passed on no
knowledge until you learned to write.


[email protected] February 25th 14 05:44 PM

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:24:38 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:18:33 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:





Neither Jesus nor Moses had anything to do with the writing of the new




testament. What's "in" the new testament was decided upon by committee




hundreds of years after Jesus died.




Eh, That's ok Harry. You wouldn't understand it anyhow. Why? Because you don't want to understand it anyhow.


TOUCHE'

F*O*A*D February 25th 14 06:06 PM

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On 2/25/14, 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:53:38 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:


2. Here's an easier one just for you. Jesus supposedly was an itinerant
teacher of the Torah and if he were, he was taught his knowledge of
Torah, the total knowledge base of things Jewish up until his time. This
would require the ability to read and write. You can hardly be a teacher
of the Torah without that ability. So, if Jesus was a teacher of the
Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even
a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?


I hesitate to step into this **** storm but I bet most of the people
who taught the Torah ever saw a hard copy of it or could have read it
if they did. This was more of a spoken tradition than a script that
they read.

That also explains a lot of the weird **** they came up with and why
there are so many versions of the bible.

When you have sheep herders sharing yarns around the camp fire,
stories change a little from time to time.



The "oral tradition" of learning and teaching from the Torah died out
several hundred years before the birth of Jesus because of the
persecution of the Jews, who realized that depending upon oral tradition
would result in the death of what had been passed down.

Jesus preached in what back then was the hotbed area of Jewish study and
education. Long, complicated and beautifully phrased sermons are
attributed to him. I doubt these would have been the product of an
illiterate.

Which gets me back to the original question: why would the alleged son
of god be illiterate?

F*O*A*D February 25th 14 10:06 PM

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On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or
gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man
evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered
but continues to consume our interest.


....and waste our time and energy.


Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 10:12 PM

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On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or
gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man
evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered
but continues to consume our interest.


...and waste our time and energy.


In favor of what?

Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that
we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.
That's too god-like.

We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the
fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?





F*O*A*D February 25th 14 10:28 PM

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On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or
gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man
evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered
but continues to consume our interest.


...and waste our time and energy.


In favor of what?

Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that
we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.
That's too god-like.

We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the
fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?





Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare
program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised
and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.

Mr. Luddite February 25th 14 10:47 PM

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On 2/25/2014 5:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or
gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man
evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered
but continues to consume our interest.

...and waste our time and energy.


In favor of what?

Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that
we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.
That's too god-like.

We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the
fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?





Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare
program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised
and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.



Now that's funny right there.

But, in a way I guess you are right. Democrats tend to like to dictate
and control our lives in terms of what we can and cannot do. Almost
like a supreme being.

Seriously, I'd challenge your attribution. I think most social welfare
and charitable programs of the last century probably have churches at
their roots.



Tim February 25th 14 11:09 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:53:38 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


And once again you reveal your lack of liberal arts knowledge. Yes,

knowledge of religion falls under the liberal arts.



1. If Jesus were indeed the son of god, why would he need to receive a

formal education to know how to read and write? Would god create an

illiterate son?



2. Here's an easier one just for you. Jesus supposedly was an itinerant

teacher of the Torah and if he were, he was taught his knowledge of

Torah, the total knowledge base of things Jewish up until his time. This

would require the ability to read and write. You can hardly be a teacher

of the Torah without that ability.


Read??

"14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." (Luke 4)

Write?

"2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. " (John 8)


So, if Jesus was a teacher of the

Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even

a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?


Who said He had or needed too?


F*O*A*D February 25th 14 11:11 PM

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On 2/25/14, 5:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 5:28 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or
gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man
evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered
but continues to consume our interest.

...and waste our time and energy.


In favor of what?

Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that
we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.
That's too god-like.

We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the
fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?





Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare
program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised
and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.



Now that's funny right there.

But, in a way I guess you are right. Democrats tend to like to dictate
and control our lives in terms of what we can and cannot do. Almost
like a supreme being.

Seriously, I'd challenge your attribution. I think most social welfare
and charitable programs of the last century probably have churches at
their roots.



It's not a matter of dictating, it's a matter of making sure there is a
safety net for those in need, and ways for lower income Americans to do
better for themselves and their families. To name a few:

eight hour work day
end of dangerous child labor
minimum wage
social security
support for free public schools
unemployment insurance
OSHA
Access to decent health care

There are dozens of these. I am hard-pressed to think of any Republican
accomplishments in the last century or so that strengthened the social
safety net of those in lower income groups.





F*O*A*D February 25th 14 11:17 PM

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On 2/25/14, 6:09 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:53:38 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:



So, if Jesus was a teacher of the

Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even

a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?


Who said He had or needed too?



I agree there is testimony that Jesus knew full well how to read and
write. Taking that literacy into account, I find it more than just a
little curious that he left nothing behind in writing.

Jesus, of course, was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew.
There's nothing substantive in writing to indicate he wanted another
religion to take the place of Judaism. In fact, wasn't Jesus opposed to
proselytizing to pagans?

Tim February 25th 14 11:23 PM

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:11:27 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


It's not a matter of dictating, it's a matter of making sure there is a

safety net for those in need, and ways for lower income Americans to do

better for themselves and their families. To name a few:



eight hour work day


Dreamed up by Robert Owen (communist) But actually implemented by Henry Ford (Republican)

end of dangerous child labor

minimum wage

social security

support for free public schools

unemployment insurance

OSHA Richard Nixon created the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)



Access to decent health care



There are dozens of these. I am hard-pressed to think of any Republican

accomplishments in the last century or so that strengthened the social

safety net of those in lower income groups.




F*O*A*D February 25th 14 11:30 PM

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On 2/25/14, 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:11:27 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


It's not a matter of dictating, it's a matter of making sure there is a

safety net for those in need, and ways for lower income Americans to do

better for themselves and their families. To name a few:



eight hour work day


Dreamed up by Robert Owen (communist) But actually implemented by Henry Ford (Republican)



Owen was a socialist, not a communist. He was an early advocate for a
shorter worker day.

The eight hour day came about as a national cause because of worker
strikes and other union activities in New York and Chicago and some
other cities in the 1870s and 1880s, 35 years before Henry Ford jumped
aboard that ship.

Wayne.B February 25th 14 11:52 PM

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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 13:48:30 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, the answer to whether Jesus was literate can be find in the new
testament


===

How very literate of you. It can probably be found there also.

Drinking again or doing drugs?

Tim February 26th 14 01:57 AM

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:30:56 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 6:23 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:11:27 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:






It's not a matter of dictating, it's a matter of making sure there is a




safety net for those in need, and ways for lower income Americans to do




better for themselves and their families. To name a few:








eight hour work day




Dreamed up by Robert Owen (communist) But actually implemented by Henry Ford (Republican)






Owen was a socialist, not a communist. He was an early advocate for a

shorter worker day.



The eight hour day came about as a national cause because of worker

strikes and other union activities in New York and Chicago and some

other cities in the 1870s and 1880s, 35 years before Henry Ford jumped

aboard that ship.


I'm familiar with the United Mine Workers probably getting the actual 8 hr. day, but Henry Ford was the first to really promote it and make it work well.

Owen was an inspiration to Karl Marx. so....

BTW, Owens euphoria cities (New Lanark England and New Harmony Indiana) didn't go over so well. Now they're not more than a tourist traps.

Tim February 26th 14 02:05 AM

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:17:24 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 6:09 PM, Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:53:38 AM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:








So, if Jesus was a teacher of the




Torah, what excuse can you offer up for his failing to leave behind even




a scrap of a scroll in his own words and writing?




Who said He had or needed too?








I agree there is testimony that Jesus knew full well how to read and

write. Taking that literacy into account, I find it more than just a

little curious that he left nothing behind in writing.


Harry,then why did you just questioned his literacy a ile ago



Jesus, of course, was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew.

There's nothing substantive in writing to indicate he wanted another

religion to take the place of Judaism.


"...For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins..." Mat. 26:28



In fact, wasn't Jesus opposed to proselytizing to pagans?


No.

"Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:" (Mat. 28:19


John H[_15_] February 26th 14 01:32 PM

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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:28:26 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:








To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or


gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man


evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered


but continues to consume our interest.




...and waste our time and energy.






In favor of what?




Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that


we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.


That's too god-like.




We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the


fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?












Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare

program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised

and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.


Well there you go then! God created Democrats and evolution after the 'big bang' created Republicans!

Your answer was cute, but Luddite's question still stands.

F*O*A*D February 26th 14 01:42 PM

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On 2/26/14, 8:32 AM, John H wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:28:26 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:








To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or


gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man


evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered


but continues to consume our interest.




...and waste our time and energy.






In favor of what?




Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that


we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.


That's too god-like.




We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the


fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?












Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare

program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised

and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.


Well there you go then! God created Democrats and evolution after the 'big bang' created Republicans!

Your answer was cute, but Luddite's question still stands.



You know, John, sometimes it is hard for me to believe you've ever read
anything more challenging on a serious subject than an old Classics
Illustrated version. You're not someone whose thoughts on any subject
are to be taken seriously.



Poco Loco February 26th 14 02:00 PM

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On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:42:39 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/26/14, 8:32 AM, John H wrote:
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:28:26 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 5:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 2/25/2014 5:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 5:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:







To the best of my knowledge they pretty much all believed in a god or

gods. The concept of a supreme being or beings has existed since man

evolved to think abstractly and the mystery of life remains unanswered

but continues to consume our interest.



...and waste our time and energy.





In favor of what?



Why do humanitarian programs exist? Are we so perfect as humans that

we naturally come to the aid of people in need? I don't think so.

That's too god-like.



We have been influenced and taught that. By nature it's survival of the

fittest. What has influenced us to think otherwise?











Democrats, of course. In this country, virtually every social welfare

program of the last century that helps people in need was first devised

and promoted by Democrats and labor unions and organizations.


Well there you go then! God created Democrats and evolution after the 'big bang' created Republicans!

Your answer was cute, but Luddite's question still stands.



You know, John, sometimes it is hard for me to believe you've ever read
anything more challenging on a serious subject than an old Classics
Illustrated version. You're not someone whose thoughts on any subject
are to be taken seriously.


You know, foad, sometimes it's hard for me to believe you can take yourself and all your gibberish
seriously. Do you really think you're worth a serious thought? I don't need to show off my
intellect. I don't need to disparage the beliefs of another. And I sure as **** don't need to put
any thought into responses to you.

Luddite put in some thought to his question to you. The one you answered 'Democrats'. I suppose you
had to come up with something 'cute', because he definitely had you in a corner.

Lastly, your opinions are worth about as much as what I scoop in the little plastic bag.

Remember, you're talking to a raping, baby-killing, homophobic racist, eh?


F*O*A*D February 26th 14 02:08 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/26/14, 9:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


I don't need to show off my
intellect.


Especially since you can't.

Hank February 26th 14 04:34 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On 2/26/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


I don't need to show off my
intellect.


Especially since you can't.


Dear Harriet,
Be thankful that Luddite affords you the opportunity to show off your
intellect. We are all waiting for you avail yourself of that
opportunity. Go ahead. Show us your stuff.

Poco Loco February 26th 14 05:08 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:34:28 -0600, HanK wrote:

On 2/26/2014 8:08 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/26/14, 9:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


I don't need to show off my
intellect.


Especially since you can't.


Dear Harriet,
Be thankful that Luddite affords you the opportunity to show off your
intellect. We are all waiting for you avail yourself of that
opportunity. Go ahead. Show us your stuff.


His big answer to Luddite's well-put question compassion and survival of the fittest was very
telling.


Tim February 26th 14 11:11 PM

Jesus Saves!
 
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:23:41 PM UTC-6, F*O*A*D wrote:


Sure. You have "faith," and that apparently is proof enough for you. But

faith ain't proof.



" Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1)

"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." (John 3:8)

"Ecclesiastes 11:5
As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."


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