KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 9:00 PM, HanK wrote:
On 2/13/2014 8:13 PM, KC wrote:
Answer me one question. Is this bike countersteering?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/152249.jpg

If you say it is, then I stipulated to an erroneous definition of
counter steering while John was apparently wasting my time today...

He said in a nutshell, when the front tire is turned away from the
direction of the turn, in relation to the radius...
Nope. Not what he said.

Well then I got it confused. Either way, all of the pics I just posted
clearly show bikes turning in the direction the front tire is turned...
The technique causes the motorcycle to lean, and then steer, in the
intended direction. In some of those racing photos they are likely in a
curve in a hard braking situation. The discussion seems to be centered
on recreational riding on asphalt - not racing or off-road riding.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:23:58 -0500, Earl__ wrote:

KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 9:00 PM, HanK wrote:
On 2/13/2014 8:13 PM, KC wrote:
Answer me one question. Is this bike countersteering?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/152249.jpg

If you say it is, then I stipulated to an erroneous definition of
counter steering while John was apparently wasting my time today...

He said in a nutshell, when the front tire is turned away from the
direction of the turn, in relation to the radius...
Nope. Not what he said.

Well then I got it confused. Either way, all of the pics I just posted
clearly show bikes turning in the direction the front tire is turned...
The technique causes the motorcycle to lean, and then steer, in the
intended direction. In some of those racing photos they are likely in a
curve in a hard braking situation. The discussion seems to be centered
on recreational riding on asphalt - not racing or off-road riding.

It is time to give up on that one.