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F.O.A.D. February 12th 14 06:48 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

Michael Dunn said he tried to calm down the confrontation with three
teens in a neighboring SUV outside a Jacksonville convenience store in
November 2012.

“I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and hearing,” the 47-year-old said.

Dunn is charged with first-degree murder. He has pleaded not guilty and
says he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot 17-year-old Jordan
Davis of Marietta, Ga., outside a Jacksonville convenience store in 2012.

The defense rested its case Tuesday, and then prosecutors called Dunn’s
fiancee back to the witness stand. Rhonda Rouer contradicted Dunn’s
assertion that he had told her he had seen a gun in the teens’ SUV.
Closing arguments were expected Wednesday.

Prosecutors also played a video of Dunn’s jailhouse interview in which
he couldn’t explain why he didn’t call police after the shooting. Also
in it, detectives picked apart Dunn’s story that he was threatened with
a gun, saying no weapon was found on the teen and witnesses never
described Davis making threats.



Imagine what might have happened if the murdered kid had been armed with
a soft drink and a bag of candy!
http://tinyurl.com/lkh99vy

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 12th 14 07:49 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

absolutely nothing about the ex-New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin, being
found guilty of corruption.

Wonder why??


F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 12:29 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 13th 14 01:20 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?


No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?


F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 01:31 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?


No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?


--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 13th 14 01:50 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?


No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?


My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 01:54 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?


My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 13th 14 02:16 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?


My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.


No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.


Wayne.B February 13th 14 03:31 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.


No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.


===

John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop
flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a
simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.

KC February 13th 14 04:04 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/2014 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.


My bet is he is acquitted of the murder one beef and gets convicted on
one of the other lesser charges but it is really meaningless since the
sentence for any of them, even the aggravated assault, will be "20 to
life". (the OTHER controversial Florida gun law that blunts stand your
ground)


From what I can see so far, the guy is guilty of at least second degree
murder... maybe even first. I think the last three shots into the back
of the car seal that deal.

John H[_15_] February 13th 14 06:27 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:31:08 AM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco

wrote:



We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for


white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason


they want, even if the music is too loud.




No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.




===



John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop

flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a

simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.


Oh Wayne, hush. You have your share of fun, I should be able to do the same!

Califbill February 13th 14 06:46 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the
senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black
teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.


My bet is he is acquitted of the murder one beef and gets convicted on
one of the other lesser charges but it is really meaningless since the
sentence for any of them, even the aggravated assault, will be "20 to
life". (the OTHER controversial Florida gun law that blunts stand your
ground)


From what I can see so far, the guy is guilty of at least second degree
murder... maybe even first. I think the last three shots into the back of
the car seal that deal.


Be hell trying for a murder one. Where is the premeditation? How many
armed robbers get a murder one after killing someone in a robbery? Most
get Murder 2/ manslaughter.

F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 07:48 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 1:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:31:08 AM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco

wrote:



We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for


white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason


they want, even if the music is too loud.




No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.




===



John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop

flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a

simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.


Oh Wayne, hush. You have your share of fun, I should be able to do the same!


Oh, I get it. A right-wing racist state legislature and governor pass
and sign a law that allows morons with guns shoot kids and then claim
they were standing their ground, and the enablers of the right-wing
racists high-five them.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Wayne.B February 13th 14 08:04 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:48:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Oh, I get it. A right-wing racist state legislature and governor pass
and sign a law that allows morons with guns shoot kids and then claim
they were standing their ground, and the enablers of the right-wing
racists high-five them.


===

not worthy of comment

F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 08:21 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 3:17 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:48:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 1:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:31:08 AM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco

wrote:



We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for

white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason

they want, even if the music is too loud.



No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.



===



John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop

flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a

simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.

Oh Wayne, hush. You have your share of fun, I should be able to do the same!


Oh, I get it. A right-wing racist state legislature and governor pass
and sign a law that allows morons with guns shoot kids and then claim
they were standing their ground, and the enablers of the right-wing
racists high-five them.


The flip side of that is another law by the same body that says if you
guess wrong you have a mandatory 25 to life. (basically if they
convict you of any lesser included felony)
That is why the murder charge is largely symbolic.
This guy will die in jail if they can just make aggravated assault
stick.

Again (like Zimmerman) stand your ground was not even brought by the
defendant so your rant is just that, an ignorant (of the facts) rant,




One point is that the shooters aren't smart enough to think through what
they are doing. They figure they can just kill someone and claim it was
self defense in the absence of any weapon found in the dead person's
possession.

Stand your ground is nothing more than a license to kill that was pushed
by gun money.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Poco Loco February 13th 14 08:51 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:17:18 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:48:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 1:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:31:08 AM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco

wrote:



We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for

white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason

they want, even if the music is too loud.



No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.



===



John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop

flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a

simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.

Oh Wayne, hush. You have your share of fun, I should be able to do the same!


Oh, I get it. A right-wing racist state legislature and governor pass
and sign a law that allows morons with guns shoot kids and then claim
they were standing their ground, and the enablers of the right-wing
racists high-five them.


The flip side of that is another law by the same body that says if you
guess wrong you have a mandatory 25 to life. (basically if they
convict you of any lesser included felony)
That is why the murder charge is largely symbolic.
This guy will die in jail if they can just make aggravated assault
stick.

Again (like Zimmerman) stand your ground was not even brought by the
defendant so your rant is just that, an ignorant (of the facts) rant,


And besides, Harry lives in a state dominated by the Ku Klux Klan where everyone believes blacks
should be hung.


KC February 13th 14 09:02 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/2014 1:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the
senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black
teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

My bet is he is acquitted of the murder one beef and gets convicted on
one of the other lesser charges but it is really meaningless since the
sentence for any of them, even the aggravated assault, will be "20 to
life". (the OTHER controversial Florida gun law that blunts stand your
ground)


From what I can see so far, the guy is guilty of at least second degree
murder... maybe even first. I think the last three shots into the back of
the car seal that deal.


Be hell trying for a murder one. Where is the premeditation? How many
armed robbers get a murder one after killing someone in a robbery? Most
get Murder 2/ manslaughter.


Yup, that's exactly what I said.... "at least" guilty of second degree
murder"...*maybe" first.

And the premeditation was after the first volley, the second three
shots. I know it's a stretch but if they could somehow prove the kid was
in fact killed in the second volley... *maybe* but I do agree, doubtful...

F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 09:40 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:21:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 3:17 PM,
wrote:

Again (like Zimmerman) stand your ground was not even brought by the
defendant so your rant is just that, an ignorant (of the facts) rant,




One point is that the shooters aren't smart enough to think through what
they are doing. They figure they can just kill someone and claim it was
self defense in the absence of any weapon found in the dead person's
possession.

Stand your ground is nothing more than a license to kill that was pushed
by gun money.


You still have to meet the same standard of self defense as you do in
most states.
This is mostly hype genned up by the liberal media.
I am not sure it sold one extra gun so that is bogus too.
If anything, the CCW sells guns ... but you brag about having one of
them.


Your response has nothing to do with my posit, that your state's stand
your ground law makes morons think they have a license to kill if
someone upsets them. And stand your ground certainly has been brought up
by the Jacksonville defendant.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

F.O.A.D. February 13th 14 10:34 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/13/14, 5:20 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:40:58 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 3:55 PM,
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:21:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 3:17 PM,
wrote:

Again (like Zimmerman) stand your ground was not even brought by the
defendant so your rant is just that, an ignorant (of the facts) rant,




One point is that the shooters aren't smart enough to think through what
they are doing. They figure they can just kill someone and claim it was
self defense in the absence of any weapon found in the dead person's
possession.

Stand your ground is nothing more than a license to kill that was pushed
by gun money.

You still have to meet the same standard of self defense as you do in
most states.
This is mostly hype genned up by the liberal media.
I am not sure it sold one extra gun so that is bogus too.
If anything, the CCW sells guns ... but you brag about having one of
them.


Your response has nothing to do with my posit, that your state's stand
your ground law makes morons think they have a license to kill if
someone upsets them. And stand your ground certainly has been brought up
by the Jacksonville defendant.


Cite that.
Was there a stand your ground hearing? I don't remember seeing it and
that is what the law affords the defendant. If the case ever makes it
to trial, the defense is a standard self defense case, based on the
"use of deadly force" law.

Dunn is basing his defense on the claim to have seen what he thought
was a weapon. I doubt it will work for him but if he was a cop, it
would have never even come to a trial and nobody would have questioned
the 10 shots. That is the crime..


Cite what? That Dunn mentioned stand your ground as a defense? It's been
all over the news reports. I don't know whether there was a hearing on
SYG...what i said was the defendant has brought it up.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Tim February 13th 14 11:00 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:29:41 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:






JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a


17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that


he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed


at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.




They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but


I didn't watch much TV today.




I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d


degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.




If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a


tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they


were going to kill Dunn, he might walk




A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an


interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually


empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.






Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white

racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

I guess I'm a nobody. because I didn't know that. Come to think about it, I don't know of anybody that's not twisted in the head that would.



F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 12:13 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not
believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self
defense case..



You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,
but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when
they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a
kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the
standard of the concept of self-defense.


--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Tim February 14th 14 12:28 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:






The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not


believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self


defense case..






You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Poco Loco February 14th 14 12:49 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:






The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not


believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self


defense case..






You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.


Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


Hank February 14th 14 12:58 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 7:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not
believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self
defense case..



You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,
but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when
they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a
kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the
standard of the concept of self-defense.


Only in your mind, such as it is.

F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 01:02 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.


Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

John H[_15_] February 14th 14 01:18 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:13:06 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:






The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not


believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self


defense case..






You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.


What law? You're not discussing the SYG law as law, so what law are you discussing?


Poco Loco February 14th 14 01:20 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:02:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.


Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.


That's what all the high schoolers said about the girls whose pants they couldn't get into. Face it,
Harry, you're obsessed with the woman.


F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 01:21 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:02:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.


That's what all the high schoolers said about the girls whose pants they couldn't get into. Face it,
Harry, you're obsessed with the woman.


Perhaps you should stick to discussions about the best ways to turn or
fall off of a motorcycle.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Hank February 14th 14 02:09 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:02:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.


That's what all the high schoolers said about the girls whose pants they couldn't get into. Face it,
Harry, you're obsessed with the woman.

He sure is . He's gone so far as to blow up her images so he can inspect
her pores. Tha's creepy in anyone's book.

Hank February 14th 14 02:11 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.


Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?

Poco Loco February 14th 14 02:32 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:11:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?


He knows me.


KC February 14th 14 02:38 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 9:32 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:11:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?


He knows me.


He is obviously smitten with Sarah..

F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 02:50 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 9:38 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 9:32 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:11:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight
self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think
of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?


He knows me.


He is obviously smitten with Sarah..


I have little use for stupid right-wing women.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Hank February 14th 14 03:23 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 9:32 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:11:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?


He knows me.

OK You and who else?

Hank February 14th 14 03:25 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 9:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 9:38 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/14/2014 9:32 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:11:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/14/2014 8:02 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 7:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 04:28:09 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, February 14, 2014 6:13:06 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:





The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not

believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight
self

defense case..





You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as
law,

but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think
of when

they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids
or a

kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the

standard of the concept of self-defense.



Harry, I think your just plain hung up on Zmmerman and Palin.

Thats all.

Remember that cute little thing in high school that would never let
you score? See any resemblance
between that scenario and the Harry/Palin thing. I've never seen
anyone so hung up on a good-looking
female in my life.


I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.

Who do you know personally, that you consider good looking?

He knows me.


He is obviously smitten with Sarah..


I have little use for stupid right-wing women.

How about smart right wing women like Laura Ingraham?

F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 04:29 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:13:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not
believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self
defense case..



You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,
but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when
they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a
kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the
standard of the concept of self-defense.


What excuse do they use in Chicago and Detroit?

If you think the law lowers the burden of imminent threat you are just
another low information liberal, knee jerking over something you heard
on MSNBC.
It is very apparent that you never took any of the Florida CCW
classes. Did they even have an education requirement for that CCW you
have?



You still don't get it. I'm not talking about *the law* I am talking
about what the concept of "Stand Your Ground" apparently does to the
mindset of low intelligence gun carriers. It apparently plants the idea
in their skulls that they can shoot their way out of simple
disagreements or even a fist fight they might have started.

Oh, and taking CCW classes is a guarantee only that someone yawned their
way through a CCW class. I've taken three of them. There's nothing in
those classes that keeps a low intelligence hothead from skinning his
firearm if he gets "upset." Like, you know, loud music coming from a car
with some black teenagers in it.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

F.O.A.D. February 14th 14 04:30 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/14, 11:01 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:02:45 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I've never thought Sarah Palin was good looking.


Must be a Mikulski kind of guy.


In terms of political leadership, smarts, and abilities, yeah, I prefer
Senator Mikulski. I've seen photos of your Sweetie Sarah without her
makeup. She's got a painted face.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Hank February 14th 14 04:36 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:13:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not
believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self
defense case..



You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,
but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when
they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a
kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the
standard of the concept of self-defense.


What excuse do they use in Chicago and Detroit?

If you think the law lowers the burden of imminent threat you are just
another low information liberal, knee jerking over something you heard
on MSNBC.
It is very apparent that you never took any of the Florida CCW
classes. Did they even have an education requirement for that CCW you
have?

He claims to have 3 CCW permits. Surely, one of those states covers the
subject matter in their permit process.

Hank February 14th 14 04:40 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 11:29 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/14/14, 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:13:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/14/14, 1:12 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:34:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


The media knee jerked stand your ground commentary but I do not
believe Dunn's lawyer ever asserted it. They asserted a straight self
defense case..


You are missing the point. I'm not discussing the stupid SYG law as law,
but as the excuse armed morons in your state (and others) think of when
they decide to shoot up a car full of loud and maybe obnoxious kids or a
kid walking through a neighborhood. The law obviously lowers the
standard of the concept of self-defense.


What excuse do they use in Chicago and Detroit?

If you think the law lowers the burden of imminent threat you are just
another low information liberal, knee jerking over something you heard
on MSNBC.
It is very apparent that you never took any of the Florida CCW
classes. Did they even have an education requirement for that CCW you
have?



You still don't get it. I'm not talking about *the law* I am talking
about what the concept of "Stand Your Ground" apparently does to the
mindset of low intelligence gun carriers. It apparently plants the idea
in their skulls that they can shoot their way out of simple
disagreements or even a fist fight they might have started.

Oh, and taking CCW classes is a guarantee only that someone yawned their
way through a CCW class. I've taken three of them. There's nothing in
those classes that keeps a low intelligence hothead from skinning his
firearm if he gets "upset." Like, you know, loud music coming from a car
with some black teenagers in it.

Not getting it is what happens when confronted with irrational ideas.

Hank February 14th 14 04:42 PM

Is Michael Dunn Florida's next George Zimmerman?
 
On 2/14/2014 11:30 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I prefer Senator Mikulski. I've seen photos of your Sweetie Sarah
without her makeup. She's got a painted face.


You know how to pick em.


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