Thunderbird question
 

Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's gone.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?


Yes and I can find it on them. I was just wondering if there's a way
to setup Thunderbird so it acts more like an e-mail account where a
"deleted" email goes into a trash folder.

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in the newsgroup accounts.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?


Yes and I can find it on them. I was just wondering if there's a way
to setup Thunderbird so it acts more like an e-mail account where a
"deleted" email goes into a trash folder.

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in the newsgroup accounts.


I don't think so.

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On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.

Has nothing to do with the server.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?


Yes and I can find it on them. I was just wondering if there's a way
to setup Thunderbird so it acts more like an e-mail account where a
"deleted" email goes into a trash folder.

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in the newsgroup accounts.



Oh, I read your first one wrong, for newsgroups, no... it's screwey...

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.


Yeah, read your post wrong...

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Thunderbird question
 

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.


It's rare a post is that important. :-) Like Hank said, I can always
go find it on my other laptop. The iMac is also set up with
Thunderbird but I rarely go on-line with it.

I was just curious if there was a means of deleting to a trash folder
like in email. Apparently there is not. Important posts that one would
like to save can be put in "archives". I just need to stop being so
trigger happy with the "delete" button.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.



I *think* that in Thunderbird you would need to do what Harry discussed.
You'd have to "unsubscribe" to rec.boats, then re-subscribe and define
the number of posts you want to download again. I think there's an
option for dates as well, but I can't remember.

No big deal. I was just wondering. I used to use Windows Mail and
Windows Live mail for reading newsgroups and you could retrieve deleted
posts using them. I stopped using them and went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)

Thunderbird question
 

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.



I *think* that in Thunderbird you would need to do what Harry discussed.
You'd have to "unsubscribe" to rec.boats, then re-subscribe and define
the number of posts you want to download again. I think there's an
option for dates as well, but I can't remember.

No big deal. I was just wondering. I used to use Windows Mail and
Windows Live mail for reading newsgroups and you could retrieve deleted
posts using them. I stopped using them and went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)

See if there's a 'Sample Headers' choice. Then you could tell it how many, or how many days. Maybe.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now.
I'd love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 7:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?


Yes and I can find it on them. I was just wondering if there's a way
to setup Thunderbird so it acts more like an e-mail account where a
"deleted" email goes into a trash folder.

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in the newsgroup accounts.


You can setup Tbird to have you confirm a delete.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 11:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the
post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in
the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if
you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.


It's rare a post is that important. :-) Like Hank said, I can always
go find it on my other laptop. The iMac is also set up with
Thunderbird but I rarely go on-line with it.

I was just curious if there was a means of deleting to a trash folder
like in email. Apparently there is not. Important posts that one would
like to save can be put in "archives". I just need to stop being so
trigger happy with the "delete" button.



Maybe you need a "double action" delete trigger.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the
post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in
the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if
you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.


It's rare a post is that important. :-) Like Hank said, I can always
go find it on my other laptop. The iMac is also set up with
Thunderbird but I rarely go on-line with it.

I was just curious if there was a means of deleting to a trash folder
like in email. Apparently there is not. Important posts that one would
like to save can be put in "archives". I just need to stop being so
trigger happy with the "delete" button.


Instead of deleteing, just mark the article or thread read. Next time
you open tbird you wont see it unless you display all.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 4:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made
John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based
forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole
culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada
(the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now.
I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a
few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.

Forgot to mention "Offliberty". Cool website that will copy audio from
a YouTube or the whole video. Does some other video sites as well.
Saves the audio as an mp3. All you do is paste the URL of the YouTube
into the field, wait for a few seconds while it processes the data and
right click "save as" for either just the audio or for the video plus
audio.

http://offliberty.com/

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:25:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:22:06 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)



I am OK with Agent for usenet but I am not really fond of it for E
mail. I do have 3 accounts running on it tho but they are very low
volume. (2 for HOA stuff and the one connected to my web site)
I guess I will try T Bird.

My email is MS Outlook, and I think it's grand. As long as the .pst file is transferred from one
computer to another, all works well.

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:34:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)

You guys are convincing me to switch to Giganews. Is the change difficult with Agent?

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:34:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.


You might consider getting the online Sirius, just for listening. It runs $4 a month. My wife has a
lifetime, as you do, but she paid about $150. I don't think they offer a lifetime subscription any
more.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 8:29 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)

You guys are convincing me to switch to Giganews. Is the change difficult with Agent?



I don't use Agent so I don't know. I can't imagine it would be
difficult. Once you establish an account you will receive a user name
and password. Agent (like Thunderbird or any other reader) will need
it once in the settings to connect. That's about it.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 8:34 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:34:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.


You might consider getting the online Sirius, just for listening. It runs $4 a month. My wife has a
lifetime, as you do, but she paid about $150. I don't think they offer a lifetime subscription any
more.



The lifetime thing may have been $150 for me also. It was a long time
ago and I don't really remember.

I don't really listen to music much anymore as a general background
activity. Comcast has all the music channels that my wife has playing
often in the house. We have a distribution amplifier and ceiling
speakers in just about every room in the house. Drives me nuts
sometimes. I use Pandora occasionally but most of the time that I
listen to music it's for a specific reason, like trying to learn to play
the song or editing and mixing someone else's recordings.

One thing I remember about Sirius was that they played the same songs at
just about the same time everyday.

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 8:34 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:34:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/13/2014 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:22:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/12/2014 1:13 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.


I don't know about $29 a year. My subscription used to be about $12
per month for some ungodly amount of downloads that I never came close
to using. I changed it to the cheapest subscription which is about $4 a
month. I did this a couple of months ago and remember reviewing all
the subscription options. I don't remember seeing one for $29 for a
year. Maybe it's an introductory plan to get new subscribers.

I'll say this for Giganews. I can't remember the last time it's server
was off-line.




I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)



I used to get tunes that way also but found a much easier and faster
way. I have Audacity installed in all three computers. Set the input
to "stereo high def mix" in preferences so the computer's mic is turned
off. Then, just find a quality YouTube video or .mp3 of a song you
want. Start record in Audacity, check levels, and record it. When
finished, do any noise removal, editing or enhancements you want and
export it as an .mp3.

I get a lot of backing tracks this way to practice guitar with. In
Audacity you can change the pitch the song is in without changing the
tempo and visa-versa, so it's possible to put the song in virtually any
key you like to play in.


You might consider getting the online Sirius, just for listening. It runs $4 a month. My wife has a
lifetime, as you do, but she paid about $150. I don't think they offer a lifetime subscription any
more.



The lifetime thing may have been $150 for me also. It was a long time
ago and I don't really remember.

I don't really listen to music much anymore as a general background
activity. Comcast has all the music channels that my wife has playing
often in the house. We have a distribution amplifier and ceiling
speakers in just about every room in the house. Drives me nuts
sometimes. I use Pandora occasionally but most of the time that I
listen to music it's for a specific reason, like trying to learn to play
the song or editing and mixing someone else's recordings.

One thing I remember about Sirius was that they played the same songs at
just about the same time everyday.

Never noticed that. But I don't listen to it much, and when traveling it's normally set to Bluegrass
Junction, which has some Bluegrass announcers and various groups being highlighted. Don't think I've
ever heard the same program twice.

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:29 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

One thing I remember about Sirius was that they played the same songs at
just about the same time everyday.

===

Yes they do. We had it on the big boat for awhile but got rid of it
mostly for that reason.

Thunderbird question
 

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:29:47 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

I like Giganews and I have the $12 plan but I do binaries (not as much
as I used to).

They just don't seem to be making much old music anymore and I have
all they made ;-) (27 gig or so)

You guys are convincing me to switch to Giganews. Is the change difficult with Agent?

===

It's very easy. Just go to: Tools/Servers and Accounts

Everything is right there.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".

Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 10:53 PM, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.



Hmmm. You are using the same version of Thunderbird (24.3.0) that I am
using. I don't get a prompt to confirm a delete or warning of no trash
folder.

Someone else mentioned the prompt to confirm delete as well. I must
have missed it somewhere in the setup. I'll go look some more.

Thanks

Thunderbird question
 

thumper wrote:
On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".

Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.

Because he does not want to fill up the disk with trash.

Thunderbird question
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:53 PM, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.



Hmmm. You are using the same version of Thunderbird (24.3.0) that I am
using. I don't get a prompt to confirm a delete or warning of no trash folder.

Someone else mentioned the prompt to confirm delete as well. I must
have missed it somewhere in the setup. I'll go look some more.

Thanks

You can click on the message to not be bothered by the question again.
Maybe you clicked that.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 11:07 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:53 PM, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.



Hmmm. You are using the same version of Thunderbird (24.3.0) that I am
using. I don't get a prompt to confirm a delete or warning of no trash folder.

Someone else mentioned the prompt to confirm delete as well. I must
have missed it somewhere in the setup. I'll go look some more.

Thanks

You can click on the message to not be bothered by the question again.
Maybe you clicked that.


I could have. Probably did. Don't remember. I wonder if there's a way
to change my mind. Not a big deal. I am getting out of the habit of
hovering the cursor over the "delete" button. That will help.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/13/2014 11:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
thumper wrote:
On 2/12/2014 8:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".

Why delete? I just mark them read.

Mine prompts to confirm delete and warns that there is no trash folder.

Because he does not want to fill up the disk with trash.


I don't think deleted messages from a newsgroup go into any kind of
"trash" folder, mainly because there isn't one and no apparent way to
create on. You can have a trash folder in the email and "Local
Folders" accounts, but not in the newsgroup account. I suspect they go
into a "temp" file somewhere that has some maximum space before they are
deleted, last in, last out.