Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

Thunderbird question
 

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:40 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 11:34 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and
click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".





If the post is really important, you can delete rec.boats from the news
server category under newsgroups, quit T'bird, start T'bird, reinstall
rec.boats and it should download about a zillion posts, all of them that
are downloadable from the news server. If you then sort by date you
should find the one you are looking for, with a bit of trouble.


It's rare a post is that important. :-) Like Hank said, I can always
go find it on my other laptop. The iMac is also set up with
Thunderbird but I rarely go on-line with it.

I was just curious if there was a means of deleting to a trash folder
like in email. Apparently there is not. Important posts that one would
like to save can be put in "archives". I just need to stop being so
trigger happy with the "delete" button.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.



I *think* that in Thunderbird you would need to do what Harry discussed.
You'd have to "unsubscribe" to rec.boats, then re-subscribe and define
the number of posts you want to download again. I think there's an
option for dates as well, but I can't remember.

No big deal. I was just wondering. I used to use Windows Mail and
Windows Live mail for reading newsgroups and you could retrieve deleted
posts using them. I stopped using them and went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)

Thunderbird question
 

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/12/2014 11:17 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 10:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've
clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.



Just drag and drop it from the trash, back to the in box. Or, right
click on the message in the trash list, and click "move to"... and click
the folder you want.


There is no "trash" folder for the newsgroup account. Only for the
email account.

I can't find a way to create one either.

My problem is accidentally clicking on "delete". When it's gone, it's
gone.




Go to VIEW, THREADS, and click on ALL. That might bring them back if you
haven't actually somehow deleted them from the server.



Doesn't seem to work. I tried right clicking on "r.boats" in the news
account and then on "Search messages" with both the subfolder and
server boxes checked. I entered the name of a thread in the subject
line. Nothing is returned. Looks like if you "delete" it really
means *delete*. I know you can click on "archive" and save the post.
My problem is I sometimes get a little over zealous in clicking on the
"delete".



Can't you go back and reload the past 'x' number of posts, or go back 'y' days worth of posts? Agent
will do that, which makes it pretty easy to retrieve a post.



I *think* that in Thunderbird you would need to do what Harry discussed.
You'd have to "unsubscribe" to rec.boats, then re-subscribe and define
the number of posts you want to download again. I think there's an
option for dates as well, but I can't remember.

No big deal. I was just wondering. I used to use Windows Mail and
Windows Live mail for reading newsgroups and you could retrieve deleted
posts using them. I stopped using them and went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)

See if there's a 'Sample Headers' choice. Then you could tell it how many, or how many days. Maybe.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now.
I'd love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 7:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:35 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 10:11 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Question for those using Thunderbird as a news reader.

If you delete a post, is there a way of getting it back?

They way mine is set, if I accidentally click on "delete", the post
disappears. It's not put in a trash folder (like e-mail). I've clicked
on "Undo delete" in the Edit bar but that doesn't return the post to
the viewer.

I know I can probably go hunt for it in a cache or something but was
wondering if there is a setting to put deleted newsgroup posts in the
trash bin where it can be recovered.


Do you have another computer or device setup to read newsgroups?


Yes and I can find it on them. I was just wondering if there's a way
to setup Thunderbird so it acts more like an e-mail account where a
"deleted" email goes into a trash folder.

Doesn't seem to be a way to do that in the newsgroup accounts.


You can setup Tbird to have you confirm a delete.

Thunderbird question
 

On 2/12/14, 9:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:39 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I ... went to Thunderbird, mainly
because of you. :-)


I am thinking about trying T bird for my E mail client.

AOL is starting to get cranky with me because I still use AOL 7.0

They can't make me watch their ads on 7.
AOL 9.x looks like Yahoo with a screen full of crap I am not
interested in.



I like Thunderbird. I had used it years ago on other computers.
I've tried different versions of Agent but never liked them much.
Thunderbird works just fine for both email and newsgroups and made John
happy because it conforms to newsgroup protocol in terms of how it
handles signatures. :-)




Another comment regarding Usenet. I realize things change but it's
really regrettable that newsgroups became available via web based forums
like "Goggle Groups" and others. When that started the whole culture of
usenet began to change resulting in people like the clown in Canada (the
"other" Scott) having easy access to newsgroups. There were always
debates and disagreements but they had a different flavor than now. I'd
love to see web based access to newsgroups disappear. For those who
still want access, there are free newsgroup servers and free readers
(like Agent and Thunderbird) available. I happen to subscribe to
Giganews as a server for $4 a month and it's well worth it to get a few
chuckles here every other day.


I get Giganews via Earthlink, included in my internet. But I think I
have read where you can subscribe to Giganews for about $29 a year.