On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:51:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.


My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

On 2/4/2014 8:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:51:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.


My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.


Pretty easy to fix. Right click on any section of the desktop. Select
"View". You will see an item called "Show Desktop Icons". Make sure the
box is checked. If you don't want the icons to show on the desktop,
uncheck the box. Your wife or someone probably inadvertently
"unchecked" the box.

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 09:11:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2014 8:36 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:51:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/3/2014 5:54 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/3/2014 11:13 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 10:04 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Or you could buy an upgraded motherboard with a fast 80286 CPU.



Windows XP is still used in many non-personal computer applications like
gas station pumps, ATM machines and other "transparent" applications. XP
may be retaining a market share because the cost of upgrading both
software and hardware to support Win 7 or 8 is expensive for these applications.

As a user of XP, Windows 7 and 8 (and now an iMac) I think XP was (is) a
very good and stable OS but Windows 7 has it beat hands down.
Even this Vista machine runs faster and has more capabilities than XP, as good as it is.

I think the vista machine would probably run XP a lot faster than your old
machine.


Maybe, but why? This Vista machine outperforms the Compaq I had with XP
with basically the same CPU speed and RAM.

Other than slow boots from a power off condition, I have no complaints
about Vista. I rarely shut it down completely. I just put it in "sleep"
mode.

It has been stable and this HP Pavilion has had no hick-ups in 5 years,
used daily. Many people expressed frustration and problems with Vista
but I haven't had any issues or complaints. The Win 7 and 8 has some
updated applications that are better than what is in this Vista machine,
but I really haven't had any need to upgrade it.

I'll just use it until it croaks.


My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.


Pretty easy to fix. Right click on any section of the desktop. Select
"View". You will see an item called "Show Desktop Icons". Make sure the
box is checked. If you don't want the icons to show on the desktop,
uncheck the box. Your wife or someone probably inadvertently
"unchecked" the box.


Thanks! It worked!

I also looked on the Microsoft site, came up with this:

http://tinyurl.com/3cpx9k9

She's going to check on this 'InfraRecorder' application.

On 2/4/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)



I doubt it. I'll betcha someone simply unchecked the "Show Desktop
Icons" in the preferences for the Desktop. Right click on the desktop,
select "View" then make sure the "Show Desktop Icons" box is checked.

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:00:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/4/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)



I doubt it. I'll betcha someone simply unchecked the "Show Desktop
Icons" in the preferences for the Desktop. Right click on the desktop,
select "View" then make sure the "Show Desktop Icons" box is checked.


Well, she swears she did nothing of the sort. In fact, she has always sworn she's done nothing to
cause any of the friggin' problems she has with her computer.

I think the problem is 'clickitis'. Too much mouse clicking going on without the corresponding
reading.

On 2/4/2014 1:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/4/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any
idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)



I doubt it. I'll betcha someone simply unchecked the "Show Desktop
Icons" in the preferences for the Desktop. Right click on the desktop,
select "View" then make sure the "Show Desktop Icons" box is checked.


I think that wizard has to be invoked. Also it doesn't clear the
desktop. You are correct,,, again.

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:45:45 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)

No, Dick got it right. They're all back.

On 2/5/2014 1:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:15:58 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:45:45 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)

No, Dick got it right. They're all back.

OK that must be another "Vista" experience that Bill thought you
needed to have.




It's retained in Win 7 although the process is a little different. I
haven't checked Win 8. It's just a simple option to either display all
the icons on your desktop or not.

With:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvbgi6zq2cxjt3w/with%20icons.jpg

Without:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tkg0qjl2wf3oebf/without%20icons.jpg

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 06:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/5/2014 1:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:15:58 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:45:45 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:36:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:



My wife, on her Vista machine, lost all her icons on the desktop. Any idea what caused that? I don't
like the idea of playing with her Vista machine.

That is the insidious "desktop cleanup" wizard.
Right click a blank spot on the desk top, click properties, then
desktop, then customize desktop and uncheck the cleanup wizard box.

I think your icons are gone tho.

I am not sure why Bill Gates decided we needed a clean desk top.
I had the same problem with IBM management. ;-)

No, Dick got it right. They're all back.

OK that must be another "Vista" experience that Bill thought you
needed to have.




It's retained in Win 7 although the process is a little different. I
haven't checked Win 8. It's just a simple option to either display all
the icons on your desktop or not.

With:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvbgi6zq2cxjt3w/with%20icons.jpg

Without:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tkg0qjl2wf3oebf/without%20icons.jpg

It would seem unnecessary. Except for a few, most are placed there by the user, and if placed there
during a program installation, they're easily removable. For my wife, it was a 'nightmare' when she
lost all her icons (almost literally). She woke me about 1 AM, telling me she still couldn't fix the
problem. I told her to wait until morning...we'd fix it. The next morning I right clicked everything
I could think of, but somehow missed the 'Blank Spot'!