FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

....and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/14, 12:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...



Now *that* is funny. Thanks. Yet another reason not to watch
Fox...televised sports. Maybe that was the reason I never watched ABC.

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/2014 12:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

Who cares about CNNs position on anything?

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:35:58 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

===

Let me know how the skimmer repair works out for you. We're about do
for something like that on our pool.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:35:58 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

===

Let me know how the skimmer repair works out for you. We're about do
for something like that on our pool.

Will do. The pool was remodeled about 8 years ago. Contractor did not put
enough rebar in the skimmer, and the glue job leaked. Enough water washes
away the support for the concrete and the skimmer cracked from the pool
itself.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:35:58 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

So far the game pretty good, as it's going my way.

I wonder what folks who despise America think when they hear great renditions of 'America the
Beautiful' and the 'Star Spangled Banner' (which I didn't think was all that great)? I suppose it
makes them sick to their stomach.

I wish Queen Latifa had sung both songs. She did quite well.

Yippee! Seattle touchdown!

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/14, 7:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:35:58 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

So far the game pretty good, as it's going my way.

I wonder what folks who despise America think when they hear great renditions of 'America the
Beautiful' and the 'Star Spangled Banner' (which I didn't think was all that great)? I suppose it
makes them sick to their stomach.

I wish Queen Latifa had sung both songs. She did quite well.

Yippee! Seattle touchdown!



Perhaps you need a wider circle of friends that includes fewer people
that "despise" America. Some of us love America for what it was and what
it could be, rather than what the right wants it to be and become.



--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:52:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

It is a rotating product that gets moved around. This was Fox's turn.
ABC chose not to bid last time so the rotation is Fox, NBC and CBS.

So who won the steroids bowl?

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/2014 10:13 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:52:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

It is a rotating product that gets moved around. This was Fox's turn.
ABC chose not to bid last time so the rotation is Fox, NBC and CBS.


I am talking in general.. Fox sports has taken the top seed from ABC..
Remember, Wide World of Sports:)?? Fox does a better job than anybody
else..

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 17:45:53 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:


Let me know how the skimmer repair works out for you. We're about do
for something like that on our pool.

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine. I figure
I can always cut it out and replace it but the epoxy was worth a shot.
A year later, it is good.

I did drain the pool down a little, it was already at the crack,
cleaned up the plastic well with PVC (pipe) cleaner, scuffed it up a
bit with 150 grit and laid in the epoxy.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/skimmer%20repair.jpg

This had the pipe to the bottom leaking at the skimmer. Caused the skimmer
concrete to break away from the wall.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:23 -0500, wrote:

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine.

===

We've had that done at least 3 or 4 times by a local pool
professional. He says that the only permanent cure at this point is
a do-over.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/2014 9:52 AM, KC wrote:

They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

I dislike sports on Fox because of their cartoonish production and
excess graphics, it's like they think their audience is 8 years old.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/3/2014 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:13:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:23 -0500, wrote:

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine.

===

We've had that done at least 3 or 4 times by a local pool
professional. He says that the only permanent cure at this point is
a do-over.

Then I guess it is time.

I went out of my way to leave a patch of grass near that side of the
pool, just so repairs like that would be a bit less destructive.
Skimmers are the #1 suspect for a pool leak

In inches, how much H2O are you losing per day?

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/2/14, 11:46 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/2/2014 9:52 AM, KC wrote:

They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

I dislike sports on Fox because of their cartoonish production and
excess graphics, it's like they think their audience is 8 years old.

Fox knows its audience. :)

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 20:31:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/2/14, 7:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 16:35:58 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Hank wrote:
On 2/2/2014 12:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/2/14, 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


I thought it was settled: Stupor Bowl, in which a bunch of drugged up
athletes commit mayhem on the field at the direction of the bookies who
control sports. :)

You might be right about this years teams and the states they represent.
My wife wants to see the Nat. Anthem and halftime. I may join her in
front of the boob toob for those segments.

I may watch the game. We are finally getting a decent rain storm today.
Was not even forecast. The pool contractor was replacing the skimmer
because of a leak and cracking. Left the bags of concrete on the patio
even. When I woke up this morning and realized we are having rain covered
up the concrete. Hell, the newspaper was wet. No plastic bag. Weather
people missed this call. We had our first rain in months, earlier in the
week, and was very minor. To cold and wet to go outside for long.

So far the game pretty good, as it's going my way.

I wonder what folks who despise America think when they hear great renditions of 'America the
Beautiful' and the 'Star Spangled Banner' (which I didn't think was all that great)? I suppose it
makes them sick to their stomach.

I wish Queen Latifa had sung both songs. She did quite well.

Yippee! Seattle touchdown!



Perhaps you need a wider circle of friends that includes fewer people
that "despise" America. Some of us love America for what it was and what
it could be, rather than what the right wants it to be and become.

Uh-huh.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 3 Feb 2014 03:17:10 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:52:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

It is a rotating product that gets moved around. This was Fox's turn.
ABC chose not to bid last time so the rotation is Fox, NBC and CBS.

So who won the steroids bowl?
The Denver Broncos had the best offense in the NFL this season.
SB Nation 2014 NFL Playoff Coverage

The Seattle Seahawks put up the kind of points that make it seem like Russell Wilson and the offense
demolished the Denver Broncos defense. They're now in possession of the third-biggest blowout win in
Super Bowl history, with a 43-8 victory. But it was Seattle's defense that really sealed this game.

Russell Wilson managed 206 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions, and his receiver trio of
Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and Percy Harvin were effective. They were exactly as productive as
they needed to be, but if the Seattle defense hadn't stepped up to do what they did, who knows where
things would have ended up?
Denver finished the regular season with the most yardage and points scored of any offense in NFL
history. It was an offensive powerhouse that simply drowned out any semblance of the opposing team's
offense with touchdown after touchdown. The Broncos put together the No. 1 passing offense ever,
with 340.3 passing yards per game on average.

Quarterback Peyton Manning broke the single season record for passing yards with 5,477 and
touchdowns with a whopping 55. That was all with just 10 interceptions. That's a touchdown rate of
8.3 percent, an interception rate of 1.5 percent and a completion rate of 68.3 percent. Then there
was running back Knowshon Moreno, who put up 1,038 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground.

In short, the Broncos knew how to play some offense. Coming into this game, Seattle was riding one
of the top defenses in the NFL. The Seahawks matched Denver's top pass offense with the league's
best pass defense, the so-called "Legion of Boom." They allowed just 172.0 yards per game on average
over the course of the regular season.

Richard Sherman led that group with eight interceptions in the regular season, and Seattle had 28
interceptions total. The Seahawks were incredibly effective against the pass, and had the No. 7 rush
defense to help as well.

In the Super Bowl, it was all about that defense. The game started with a safety, and it was all
downhill for the Broncos from there. As noted, the Seahawks did manage two field goals and three
touchdowns on offense, but special teams also contributed one and the defense put up nine points of
its own.

Seven of those points came when Malcolm Smith took an interception back to the house for 69 yards.
Smith also had a fumble recovery and multiple passes defensed. He earned MVP honors for his efforts,
just the third linebacker to ever do so.

In the end, Manning attempted 49 passes, completing 34 of them with a touchdown. But Manning had two
interceptions, and so many drives stalled out at the absolute worst time. Seattle did an excellent
job of pressuring Manning into making poor throws and, more importantly, the Seahawks kept all of
the plays in front of them.

Denver was held to just 27 yards rushing, limiting Moreno to 17 yards off of five carries. The
Broncos made it clear early on that they were going to abandon the run. About the only good
performance for Denver was the 13-catch, 118-yard performance from Demaryius Thomas, who Manning
targeted a whopping 18 times.

Seattle forced Denver to a 6-of-13 mark on third down and stopped all three of the Broncos'
fourth-down conversion attempts. Denver ultimately had four turnovers to Seattle's zero.

The Seahawks have the best pass defense in the NFL, and what most believe is the top defense. Up
against the league's most productive offense, they rose to the occasion and got the job done. They
went above and beyond what was expected. It was always supposed to be a tough game for Manning, but
this defensive performance was otherworldly.

SB Nation's Super Bowl coverage

• Seahawks dominate Broncos in Super blowout, 43-8

• MANNINGFACE: Peyton Manning Super Bowl mood chart | #Lookit

• 2014 NFL Power Rankings: We believe in Philly (but not Denver)

• See the Super Bowl commercials again | Watch the mini-Seinfeld reunion

• Bruno Mars, Chili Peppers deliver | Ranking every halftime show ever

• Jon Bois' crazy Breaking Madden Super Bowl basically came true


Read more at
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...zQc3xEOYCJ7.99

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

Poco Loco wrote:
On 3 Feb 2014 03:17:10 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:52:03 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/2/2014 12:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
...and CNN is calling it the 'Corporate Bowl'.

Any liberal connections there?


They are just ****ed because Fox Sports has taken over as the world
leader in sports from ABC...

It is a rotating product that gets moved around. This was Fox's turn.
ABC chose not to bid last time so the rotation is Fox, NBC and CBS.

So who won the steroids bowl?
The Denver Broncos had the best offense in the NFL this season.
SB Nation 2014 NFL Playoff Coverage

The Seattle Seahawks put up the kind of points that make it seem like
Russell Wilson and the offense
demolished the Denver Broncos defense. They're now in possession of the
third-biggest blowout win in
Super Bowl history, with a 43-8 victory. But it was Seattle's defense
that really sealed this game.

Russell Wilson managed 206 yards and two touchdowns with no
interceptions, and his receiver trio of
Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and Percy Harvin were effective. They were
exactly as productive as
they needed to be, but if the Seattle defense hadn't stepped up to do
what they did, who knows where
things would have ended up?
Denver finished the regular season with the most yardage and points
scored of any offense in NFL
history. It was an offensive powerhouse that simply drowned out any
semblance of the opposing team's
offense with touchdown after touchdown. The Broncos put together the No.
1 passing offense ever,
with 340.3 passing yards per game on average.

Quarterback Peyton Manning broke the single season record for passing yards with 5,477 and
touchdowns with a whopping 55. That was all with just 10 interceptions.
That's a touchdown rate of
8.3 percent, an interception rate of 1.5 percent and a completion rate of
68.3 percent. Then there
was running back Knowshon Moreno, who put up 1,038 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground.

In short, the Broncos knew how to play some offense. Coming into this
game, Seattle was riding one
of the top defenses in the NFL. The Seahawks matched Denver's top pass
offense with the league's
best pass defense, the so-called "Legion of Boom." They allowed just
172.0 yards per game on average
over the course of the regular season.

Richard Sherman led that group with eight interceptions in the regular
season, and Seattle had 28
interceptions total. The Seahawks were incredibly effective against the
pass, and had the No. 7 rush
defense to help as well.

In the Super Bowl, it was all about that defense. The game started with a
safety, and it was all
downhill for the Broncos from there. As noted, the Seahawks did manage
two field goals and three
touchdowns on offense, but special teams also contributed one and the
defense put up nine points of
its own.

Seven of those points came when Malcolm Smith took an interception back
to the house for 69 yards.
Smith also had a fumble recovery and multiple passes defensed. He earned
MVP honors for his efforts,
just the third linebacker to ever do so.

In the end, Manning attempted 49 passes, completing 34 of them with a
touchdown. But Manning had two
interceptions, and so many drives stalled out at the absolute worst time.
Seattle did an excellent
job of pressuring Manning into making poor throws and, more importantly,
the Seahawks kept all of
the plays in front of them.

Denver was held to just 27 yards rushing, limiting Moreno to 17 yards off
of five carries. The
Broncos made it clear early on that they were going to abandon the run. About the only good
performance for Denver was the 13-catch, 118-yard performance from
Demaryius Thomas, who Manning
targeted a whopping 18 times.

Seattle forced Denver to a 6-of-13 mark on third down and stopped all three of the Broncos'
fourth-down conversion attempts. Denver ultimately had four turnovers to Seattle's zero.

The Seahawks have the best pass defense in the NFL, and what most believe
is the top defense. Up
against the league's most productive offense, they rose to the occasion
and got the job done. They
went above and beyond what was expected. It was always supposed to be a
tough game for Manning, but
this defensive performance was otherworldly.

SB Nation's Super Bowl coverage

• Seahawks dominate Broncos in Super blowout, 43-8

• MANNINGFACE: Peyton Manning Super Bowl mood chart | #Lookit

• 2014 NFL Power Rankings: We believe in Philly (but not Denver)

• See the Super Bowl commercials again | Watch the mini-Seinfeld reunion

• Bruno Mars, Chili Peppers deliver | Ranking every halftime show ever

• Jon Bois' crazy Breaking Madden Super Bowl basically came true


Read more at
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...zQc3xEOYCJ7.99

So Seattle has a football team ,

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/3/14, 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 06:04:00 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 2/3/2014 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:13:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:23 -0500, wrote:

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine.

===

We've had that done at least 3 or 4 times by a local pool
professional. He says that the only permanent cure at this point is
a do-over.

Then I guess it is time.

I went out of my way to leave a patch of grass near that side of the
pool, just so repairs like that would be a bit less destructive.
Skimmers are the #1 suspect for a pool leak

In inches, how much H2O are you losing per day?

I am not leaking now but the crack was taking out about 1/5-1/4" a
day. That is not a lot maybe 60-80 gallons but it was still a nagging
problem.



Several people in our immediate area have pools. At least one has a pool
*and* an auto sprinkler system *and* an electronic fence for his mutts.
Hardly a week goes by without a service van in his driveway to service
his pool, sprinklers or dog fence. Especially the sprinklers and dog
fence. Even though his pool is fenced, it is visible from the road. In
the four years he has had it, I have never seen one person in it. :)

--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:32:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:21 AM, wrote:

I am not leaking now but the crack was taking out about 1/5-1/4" a
day. That is not a lot maybe 60-80 gallons but it was still a nagging
problem.



Several people in our immediate area have pools. At least one has a pool
*and* an auto sprinkler system *and* an electronic fence for his mutts.
Hardly a week goes by without a service van in his driveway to service
his pool, sprinklers or dog fence. Especially the sprinklers and dog
fence. Even though his pool is fenced, it is visible from the road. In
the four years he has had it, I have never seen one person in it. :)

I know. A lot of people would be better served if they just had a
pond.

We do use our pool.

When I was looking for a house in Florida, I crossed off those having a
pool. No sense having something you don't care about and will seldom
use. If you use it, that's a different story.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/3/2014 12:42 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:32:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:21 AM, wrote:

I am not leaking now but the crack was taking out about 1/5-1/4" a
day. That is not a lot maybe 60-80 gallons but it was still a nagging
problem.



Several people in our immediate area have pools. At least one has a pool
*and* an auto sprinkler system *and* an electronic fence for his mutts.
Hardly a week goes by without a service van in his driveway to service
his pool, sprinklers or dog fence. Especially the sprinklers and dog
fence. Even though his pool is fenced, it is visible from the road. In
the four years he has had it, I have never seen one person in it. :)

I know. A lot of people would be better served if they just had a
pond.

We do use our pool.

When I was looking for a house in Florida, I crossed off those having a
pool. No sense having something you don't care about and will seldom
use. If you use it, that's a different story.



Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

FOX is showing the Super Bowl...
 

On 2/3/2014 12:54 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 12:42 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:32:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/3/14, 11:21 AM, wrote:

I am not leaking now but the crack was taking out about 1/5-1/4" a
day. That is not a lot maybe 60-80 gallons but it was still a nagging
problem.



Several people in our immediate area have pools. At least one has a
pool
*and* an auto sprinkler system *and* an electronic fence for his mutts.
Hardly a week goes by without a service van in his driveway to service
his pool, sprinklers or dog fence. Especially the sprinklers and dog
fence. Even though his pool is fenced, it is visible from the road. In
the four years he has had it, I have never seen one person in it. :)

I know. A lot of people would be better served if they just had a
pond.

We do use our pool.

When I was looking for a house in Florida, I crossed off those having a
pool. No sense having something you don't care about and will seldom
use. If you use it, that's a different story.



Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

Sorry, I should note he said the water temps in the pool were 89+...
says you don't want to come home in a heat wave after working outside
all day and get in 90 degree water...

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On 2/3/2014 11:32 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/3/14, 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 06:04:00 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 2/3/2014 12:24 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:13:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:23 -0500, wrote:

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine.

===

We've had that done at least 3 or 4 times by a local pool
professional. He says that the only permanent cure at this point is
a do-over.

Then I guess it is time.

I went out of my way to leave a patch of grass near that side of the
pool, just so repairs like that would be a bit less destructive.
Skimmers are the #1 suspect for a pool leak

In inches, how much H2O are you losing per day?

I am not leaking now but the crack was taking out about 1/5-1/4" a
day. That is not a lot maybe 60-80 gallons but it was still a nagging
problem.



Several people in our immediate area have pools. At least one has a pool
*and* an auto sprinkler system *and* an electronic fence for his mutts.
Hardly a week goes by without a service van in his driveway to service
his pool, sprinklers or dog fence. Especially the sprinklers and dog
fence. Even though his pool is fenced, it is visible from the road. In
the four years he has had it, I have never seen one person in it. :)



We've had four houses with in-ground pools since my wife and I have been
married. I ended up filling in the first one after our kids became
teenagers and wanted nothing to do with it. Our lawyer drafted a "hold
harmless" agreement that he insisted that we have the parents of kids
that visited and used the pool sign. Our kids thought that was wacky.
Now that they have homes and kids of their own, they don't think it's so
wacky.

The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here
in MA.

It will be the last. No more pools.

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On 2/3/2014 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here
in MA.

It will be the last. No more pools.


I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the
winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).



Same with boats. That's why we are making plans to leave Dodge.

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On Monday, 3 February 2014 15:24:27 UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here

in MA.



It will be the last. No more pools.





I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the

winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).


Up here, I think it would be better to join a nice club and use their pool.

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Hey...we get a couple good months a year...if it isn't raining.

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On 2/3/2014 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here
in MA.

It will be the last. No more pools.


I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the
winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).

It ;s not such a problem in charleston.

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On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:05:16 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Monday, 3 February 2014 15:24:27 UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here

in MA.



It will be the last. No more pools.





I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the

winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).


Up here, I think it would be better to join a nice club and use their pool.

Wholeheartedly agree - even all the way down here in VA. Our local county rec center charges a bit
over $500 for a year's membership. Much cheaper than a swimming pool, I'd imagine.

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/parks/r...c/lee-aqua.htm

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wrote:
On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 23:13:58 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:24:23 -0500, wrote:

I just got some waterproof epoxy and fixed the crack in mine.

===

We've had that done at least 3 or 4 times by a local pool
professional. He says that the only permanent cure at this point is
a do-over.

Then I guess it is time.

I went out of my way to leave a patch of grass near that side of the
pool, just so repairs like that would be a bit less destructive.
Skimmers are the #1 suspect for a pool leak

The original leak was where the bottom pipe connected to the skimmer. Did
not realize that was the leak. Pressure check did not find anything. A
pool guy I met at the crab season opening party, said to use PC10
underwater epoxy to seal the pipe. But by this time, the whole concrete
structure had cracked from the wall. If it breaks the pipe to the bottom
of the pool as it gets deep in the ground, he said just seal the bottom
drain and let the pool sweep get the leaves and dirt. Seal the drain and
cap off the pipe at the skimmer. The original remodel of the pool
contractor did not put much rebar connecting the skimmer concrete to the
pool.

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On 2/3/2014 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:54:46 -0500, KC wrote:


Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

Turn on the solar collectors and run it at night.
My timer/controller even has a switch for that.
It runs from midnight to 0600.
That will scrub several degrees off of the heat. The screen cage also
keeps the heat down a little. It seldom gets above 87. My wife doesn't
even want to get in it until it is 84. Nobody but the grand kids will
get in it if it is under about 79-80.


What are solar collectors for, how would turning on solar collectors
make the pool cooler? I don't get it.

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On 2/3/2014 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here
in MA.

It will be the last. No more pools.


I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the
winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).


Not true really... I have an above ground. Empty in the fall, fill in
the spring...

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True North wrote:
On Monday, 3 February 2014 15:24:27 UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here

in MA.



It will be the last. No more pools.





I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the

winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).


Up here, I think it would be better to join a nice club and use their pool.

A lot cheaper also!

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On 2/3/2014 5:46 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:54:46 -0500, KC wrote:


Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

Turn on the solar collectors and run it at night.
My timer/controller even has a switch for that.
It runs from midnight to 0600.
That will scrub several degrees off of the heat. The screen cage also
keeps the heat down a little. It seldom gets above 87. My wife doesn't
even want to get in it until it is 84. Nobody but the grand kids will
get in it if it is under about 79-80.


What are solar collectors for, how would turning on solar collectors
make the pool cooler? I don't get it.


If you run the pool water through the solar panels at night when the air
temp and blackbody radiation (panels are looking at black space) they
will radiate heat from the water, removing heat.

Same deal happens with solar battery chargers if the blocking diode
shorts (which is rare). It will charge the battery during the day and
discharge it at night. Ask me how I found that out. :-)

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KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:54:46 -0500, KC wrote:


Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

Turn on the solar collectors and run it at night.
My timer/controller even has a switch for that.
It runs from midnight to 0600.
That will scrub several degrees off of the heat. The screen cage also
keeps the heat down a little. It seldom gets above 87. My wife doesn't
even want to get in it until it is 84. Nobody but the grand kids will
get in it if it is under about 79-80.


What are solar collectors for, how would turning on solar collectors make
the pool cooler? I don't get it.

When it is cooler outside in the night, the collectors are radiators.

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On 2/3/2014 5:58 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/3/2014 5:46 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/3/2014 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:54:46 -0500, KC wrote:


Got a bud in St. Pete... He says most of the days when he wants to use
the pool, the temps are 89+ and it offers little relief.

Turn on the solar collectors and run it at night.
My timer/controller even has a switch for that.
It runs from midnight to 0600.
That will scrub several degrees off of the heat. The screen cage also
keeps the heat down a little. It seldom gets above 87. My wife doesn't
even want to get in it until it is 84. Nobody but the grand kids will
get in it if it is under about 79-80.


What are solar collectors for, how would turning on solar collectors
make the pool cooler? I don't get it.


If you run the pool water through the solar panels at night when the air
temp and blackbody radiation (panels are looking at black space) they
will radiate heat from the water, removing heat.

Same deal happens with solar battery chargers if the blocking diode
shorts (which is rare). It will charge the battery during the day and
discharge it at night. Ask me how I found that out. :-)

Ok, I get it now....

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On Monday, February 3, 2014 10:56:09 AM UTC-6, wrote:


I know. A lot of people would be better served if they just had a

pond.


agreed. I use mine. and in fact I'll be hauling in some sand this year, to make my own 'beach' And seeing it's not a 'huge' pond but it is about 8 feet deep on one end. The top water can get pretty warm in the summer. but I do have a circulating pump that if let run for about 15 minutes, will put the bottom water to the top and that makes a huge difference!

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On 2/3/2014 8:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:47:21 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/3/2014 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:15:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The two houses in Florida had pools and then Mrs.E. wanted one up here
in MA.

It will be the last. No more pools.


I wouldn't have a pool up north. The season is too short and the
winterizing process too cumbersome (mostly the opening).


Not true really... I have an above ground. Empty in the fall, fill in
the spring...

Isn't it full of leaves, dirty water and frogs in the spring? It used
to take my brother in law a long weekend to clean out his pool before
he could even start to put the water in.


It's 20 feet around and only holds about an inch of water over the
winter.. leaves are removed in about ten minutes, a quick flush and fill
her up.. Takes more time to bring out the filters and hook them up...