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[email protected] January 26th 14 02:02 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

[email protected] January 26th 14 06:45 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?


Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.

Hank January 26th 14 08:14 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?


Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

Wayne.B January 26th 14 09:24 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?


Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.


===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

Boating All Out January 26th 14 09:37 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.


===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Hank January 26th 14 09:37 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/26/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.


===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

Looking at his situation makes you feel blessed, doesn't it?

F.O.A.D. January 26th 14 09:53 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.


===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

[email protected] January 27th 14 12:29 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way

rec.boats was.


Sure thing Krausebag. Absolutely. No doubt. But we all know that you read EVERYTHING all day long in front of your monitor as you seek to perpetuate your pitiful fabricated life. By the way Krausebag, you been back on the Yale campus lately? And how's the Dr-Dr-Dr?

Wayne.B January 27th 14 01:27 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:11 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?


===


There's plenty of proof. In addition to that, Harry has never denied
it.


Poco Loco January 27th 14 01:51 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:11 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.


===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


I guess you're trying to start something and show that you're on someone's side.

What's Krause on top of?

Are you implying that any conflict between Harry, Hank, and Wayne is one-sided?


Poco Loco January 27th 14 01:52 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.


Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 02:04 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/26/14, 8:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:11 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


I guess you're trying to start something and show that you're on someone's side.

What's Krause on top of?

Are you implying that any conflict between Harry, Hank, and Wayne is one-sided?



What are you saying? I don't pay any attention to Wayne or even see most
of his posts, since he's done there with Slammer. And FlaJim is on the
cusp again. There are a handful of posters here who obviously want
rec.boats to return to its bad old days. You have to ask yourself, are
you among them? I'm not.

Have a nice day.

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 02:05 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.


Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

Boating All Out January 27th 14 03:28 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:11 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.


You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


I guess you're trying to start something and show that you're on someone's side.


Nope. I'm equal opportunity. I don't like none of ya.

What's Krause on top of?

Are you implying that any conflict between Harry, Hank, and Wayne is one-sided?


Don't have to imply the obvious.
Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.
Can't say the same for Wayne or "Hank."
Or you.
We'll see how it turns out.
Don't expect it will end well.

Wayne.B January 27th 14 04:58 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.


===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?

Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 07:04 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.


===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.



BAR[_2_] January 27th 14 01:24 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
In article , says...

On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.


===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.


Harry is an asshole, not qualifiers, he is just an asshole.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.


Harry is Google smart.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.


He hasn't personally attacked you much.

Hank January 27th 14 01:55 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 8:24 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.

===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.


Harry is an asshole, not qualifiers, he is just an asshole.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.


Harry is Google smart.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.


He hasn't personally attacked you much.

He knows better. I'll give him credit for that.

Poco Loco January 27th 14 02:45 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:04:35 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:37:11 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account. What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.


I guess you're trying to start something and show that you're on someone's side.

What's Krause on top of?

Are you implying that any conflict between Harry, Hank, and Wayne is one-sided?



What are you saying? I don't pay any attention to Wayne or even see most
of his posts, since he's done there with Slammer. And FlaJim is on the
cusp again. There are a handful of posters here who obviously want
rec.boats to return to its bad old days. You have to ask yourself, are
you among them? I'm not.

Have a nice day.


I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to someone who seems to want to 'join the fray' so to speak.


Poco Loco January 27th 14 02:46 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 02:04:53 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.


===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.

Did someone jump on you while my back was turned? I missed it.


Poco Loco January 27th 14 02:53 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.


Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?


And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Hank January 27th 14 03:03 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?


And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

F.O.A.D. January 27th 14 03:04 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?


And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


The same brand, K&N.

KC January 27th 14 03:41 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 8:24 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.

===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.


Harry is an asshole, not qualifiers, he is just an asshole.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.


Harry is Google smart.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.


He hasn't personally attacked you much.

I agree with this post...

Poco Loco January 27th 14 03:58 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?


And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)


Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 04:19 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)


Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.



Poco Loco January 27th 14 05:09 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)


Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.


Mr. Luddite January 27th 14 05:16 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 12:09 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.


Yeah, I should have known better. Snake oil stuff. I still have the
OEM filter in the back seat. I'll put it back on or get a new one.



BAR[_2_] January 28th 14 12:23 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM,
wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)


Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.

Mr. Luddite January 28th 14 01:34 AM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...



I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

BAR[_2_] January 28th 14 10:30 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.


I have a 3.15 with "Posi"

Mr. Luddite January 28th 14 11:20 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.


I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

Poco Loco January 29th 14 01:27 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.


I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.


The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


Mr. Luddite January 29th 14 02:08 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.


The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





F.O.A.D. January 29th 14 02:12 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.


The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Mr. Luddite January 29th 14 02:32 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has
the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150.
They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission
that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?



I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them.
Lots of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a
"small" pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full
sized, but come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series.

Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the
government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace
that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in
the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks
causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation.

I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At
that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling
anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical.



[email protected] January 29th 14 02:42 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:08:41 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.


I have to agree, at least about the soft ride. My wife's car is a LS460, and while it's comfortable, I don't like driving it. I think the vette's ride and feel is much more comfortable. Unless the road is really rough, the ride is actually pretty nice... for a performance car. In comparison, the Boxster I used to have was a great car, but the ride was a bit choppy.

I'd love to have an Audi S6. I had an A6 Quattro and loved it. The S6 is too much coin new, and it's hard to find a good used one.

Poco Loco January 29th 14 03:00 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:08:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.


The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.



'Too soft'? Nah, I like it. It is much softer than my wife's Jetta, and I can live with the
softness. Once there's a nice load on the back, I think it gets a tad softer. I can live with soft.
Gettin' too old for the bumpy stuff. I think the Dodges are twice as bumpy as the Fords.


Poco Loco January 29th 14 03:02 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?


Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.


Poco Loco January 29th 14 03:03 PM

Fireboat Welcome
 
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:32:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has
the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150.
They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission
that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?



I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them.
Lots of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a
"small" pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full
sized, but come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series.

Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the
government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace
that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in
the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks
causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation.

I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At
that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling
anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical.


I figure mine will last until I die. If you move down south, you need to keep that big pickup. Put a
rifle in the back window - even if it's fake.



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