Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has
the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the
big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but
beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150.
They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better
and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission
that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?



I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them. Lots
of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a "small"
pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full sized, but
come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series.

Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the
government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace
that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in
the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks
causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation.

I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At
that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling
anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical.


I know all about that. Had my share of problems too. Most cured by
sensor replacements and reprogramming. Don't know how Cummins does it
but mine won't go into "scrubber" mode unless you are parked and press a
switch or it can "scrub" passively above 35 or 40 MPH. That's when it's
working right.
I guess the fire business is still going on. Driving down the highway
you see many burned areas just off the pavement. Thank the Gubmint for
all of it.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:42:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:08:41 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.

I have to agree, at least about the soft ride. My wife's car is a LS460, and while it's comfortable, I don't like driving it. I think the vette's ride and feel is much more comfortable. Unless the road is really rough, the ride is actually pretty nice... for a performance car. In comparison, the Boxster I used to have was a great car, but the ride was a bit choppy.

I'd love to have an Audi S6. I had an A6 Quattro and loved it. The S6 is too much coin new, and it's hard to find a good used one.

Being tall has saved me the cost of a Boxster, or a Miata for that matter. Just can't get the legs
unfolded. The little Jetta, on the other hand, has all the leg room in the world.

He http://m.carmax.com/sb/results?search=audi%20s6 Act quickly.

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On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:08:39 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:42:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:08:41 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:



I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to

Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring

driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes

making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.



I have to agree, at least about the soft ride. My wife's car is a LS460, and while it's comfortable, I don't like driving it. I think the vette's ride and feel is much more comfortable. Unless the road is really rough, the ride is actually pretty nice... for a performance car. In comparison, the Boxster I used to have was a great car, but the ride was a bit choppy.



I'd love to have an Audi S6. I had an A6 Quattro and loved it. The S6 is too much coin new, and it's hard to find a good used one.



Being tall has saved me the cost of a Boxster, or a Miata for that matter.. Just can't get the legs

unfolded. The little Jetta, on the other hand, has all the leg room in the world.



He http://m.carmax.com/sb/results?search=audi%20s6 Act quickly.

Have you ever sat in a Boxster? It might surprise you.

Oh, and if I expand the carmax search out to 500 miles, there's *1* S6 available, and it's in VA. Titled new in FL, then records have it in CA before ending up in VA. Uh, no thanks.

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On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:



Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,

says...



On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:



On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:

Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next

week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor

archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You

know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It

would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.

What was the date of his arrival?



Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how

Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.





He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.



===



Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and

actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand

his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for

property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.



You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?

You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.

Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".

But Krause is sure coming out on top.

We'll see how long it lasts.



Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way

rec.boats was.



Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?





You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?



And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about

20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for

another year.



What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)





The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:06:20 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/29/2014 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has
the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the
big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but
beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150.
They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better
and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission
that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?



I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them. Lots
of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a "small"
pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full sized, but
come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series.

Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the
government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace
that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in
the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks
causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation.

I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At
that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling
anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical.


I know all about that. Had my share of problems too. Most cured by
sensor replacements and reprogramming. Don't know how Cummins does it
but mine won't go into "scrubber" mode unless you are parked and press a
switch or it can "scrub" passively above 35 or 40 MPH. That's when it's
working right.
I guess the fire business is still going on. Driving down the highway
you see many burned areas just off the pavement. Thank the Gubmint for
all of it.

It was mainly the talk here, about Fords, that lead me to something else. What fire business? Y'all
burning the kudzu?

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:46:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:08:39 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 06:42:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:08:41 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:



I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to

Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring

driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes

making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.



I have to agree, at least about the soft ride. My wife's car is a LS460, and while it's comfortable, I don't like driving it. I think the vette's ride and feel is much more comfortable. Unless the road is really rough, the ride is actually pretty nice... for a performance car. In comparison, the Boxster I used to have was a great car, but the ride was a bit choppy.



I'd love to have an Audi S6. I had an A6 Quattro and loved it. The S6 is too much coin new, and it's hard to find a good used one.



Being tall has saved me the cost of a Boxster, or a Miata for that matter. Just can't get the legs

unfolded. The little Jetta, on the other hand, has all the leg room in the world.



He http://m.carmax.com/sb/results?search=audi%20s6 Act quickly.

Have you ever sat in a Boxster? It might surprise you.

Oh, and if I expand the carmax search out to 500 miles, there's *1* S6 available, and it's in VA. Titled new in FL, then records have it in CA before ending up in VA. Uh, no thanks.

Yeah, I've sat in both the Boxster and the Miata. Too small.

The Audi you found was the same one I found on the way Dulles airport.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:



The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)

We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's
probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air
filter.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:

On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:



Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,

says...



On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:



On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:

On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:

Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next

week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor

archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You

know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It

would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.

What was the date of his arrival?



Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how

Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.





He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.



===



Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and

actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand

his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for

property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.



You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?

You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.

Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".

But Krause is sure coming out on top.

We'll see how long it lasts.



Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way

rec.boats was.



Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?





You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?



And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about

20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for

another year.



What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)





The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 10:49 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:06:20 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/29/2014 9:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has
the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the
big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but
beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150.
They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better
and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission
that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?



I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them. Lots
of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a "small"
pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full sized, but
come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series.

Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the
government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace
that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in
the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks
causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation.

I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At
that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling
anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical.


I know all about that. Had my share of problems too. Most cured by
sensor replacements and reprogramming. Don't know how Cummins does it
but mine won't go into "scrubber" mode unless you are parked and press a
switch or it can "scrub" passively above 35 or 40 MPH. That's when it's
working right.
I guess the fire business is still going on. Driving down the highway
you see many burned areas just off the pavement. Thank the Gubmint for
all of it.

It was mainly the talk here, about Fords, that lead me to something else. What fire business? Y'all
burning the kudzu?

Grass wont tolerate the 1000 degree temps generated in the DPF

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On 1/29/2014 11:20 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!


I know I noted it before but the filters K+N makes for dirtbikes in my
opinion wouldn't protect a typical MX engine for more than a few laps on
a dusty day.... The clay dust we have at our facility will pass right
through them in my opinion. I don't know anybody that uses them,
period... and if they do, it's probably why I don't know them, them not
being at the track with the blown up motors and all....:(

For John in particular. I would think that two Twin Air filters, and one
20 dollar two pack of No Toil, would last as long as you will be riding
the bike...... unless you are gonna' change that air filter more than
say, 40-50 times in that period:)

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:20:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!

The big benefit is the ease of cleaning and/or changing the filters. On an older Guzzi, the stock
filter is a nightmare to change.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.


--
There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:47:51 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:20 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!


I know I noted it before but the filters K+N makes for dirtbikes in my
opinion wouldn't protect a typical MX engine for more than a few laps on
a dusty day.... The clay dust we have at our facility will pass right
through them in my opinion. I don't know anybody that uses them,
period... and if they do, it's probably why I don't know them, them not
being at the track with the blown up motors and all....:(

For John in particular. I would think that two Twin Air filters, and one
20 dollar two pack of No Toil, would last as long as you will be riding
the bike...... unless you are gonna' change that air filter more than
say, 40-50 times in that period:)

I looked at the site, but could find nothing that looked like it would work on the Guzzi. You can
see mine behind the carb. It doesn't look new, 'cause it's 23 years old.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...uzziEngine.jpg

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:00:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.

I'm so glad you found something humorous in there, Harry.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 12:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:20:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!

The big benefit is the ease of cleaning and/or changing the filters. On an older Guzzi, the stock
filter is a nightmare to change.


Lot of parts to move out of the way, or hard to get out without
polluting the carb, or both??

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.


Yes, that is the kind of filter some of the smaller mx bikes take...
only the one I saw, was not a fiber filter or paper, it was a mesh and I
could see light right through it..

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 1:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:47:51 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:20 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!


I know I noted it before but the filters K+N makes for dirtbikes in my
opinion wouldn't protect a typical MX engine for more than a few laps on
a dusty day.... The clay dust we have at our facility will pass right
through them in my opinion. I don't know anybody that uses them,
period... and if they do, it's probably why I don't know them, them not
being at the track with the blown up motors and all....:(

For John in particular. I would think that two Twin Air filters, and one
20 dollar two pack of No Toil, would last as long as you will be riding
the bike...... unless you are gonna' change that air filter more than
say, 40-50 times in that period:)

I looked at the site, but could find nothing that looked like it would work on the Guzzi. You can
see mine behind the carb. It doesn't look new, 'cause it's 23 years old.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...uzziEngine.jpg


Yeah, I am not sure if twin air makes anything for that, but then again,
you don't force the amount of crap though a filter we do.. For instance,
our actual filter area, for a 100 cc engine is probably 5-8 times larger
than the flow area of your filter, and we typically change it every
30-60 minutes of riding:)

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 1:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:00:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.



heheheheh.

I'm so glad you found something humorous in there, Harry.


And it does look like a bitch to get them out....

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:29:08 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 12:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:20:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!

The big benefit is the ease of cleaning and/or changing the filters. On an older Guzzi, the stock
filter is a nightmare to change.


Lot of parts to move out of the way, or hard to get out without
polluting the carb, or both??

It fits in a plastic box under the tank, in front of the battery, between the cylinders, under the
frame member which goes under the tank. It's simply a bitch to get to, which is why the change to
K&N's is usually one of the first mods made to the bike.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:32:19 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 12:55 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:49:15 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 11:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:10:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:04:40 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
snipped
The same brand, K&N.

K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)


K+N makes a motocross filter that you could literally pour sugar
through... it is basically a sieve. We don't use K+N anything in our
sport, not for more than two rides or so:(

There are several good filter systems, cleaners, and oil out there but
we use "No Toil". It's non toxic, biodegradable, you take a teaspoon or
so of poweder in the sink with some warm water and you got a clean
filter. There is no nasty petrolium smell either, if you have a lot of
filters in the rotation like we do, a quarter cup of No Toil cleaner in
the family washer will do just fine and rinses out completely leaving no
smell or residue. You use the No Toil filter oil too, again non toxic,
biodegradable, etc... The only tradeoff I can see with the stuff is the
filter oil can not be cleaned with degreaser, or soap, etc.. You need to
use the No Toil powder to clean it out of your filters...

http://www.bikebandit.com/no-toil-air-filter-oil-cleaner?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&ut m_campaign=pla&gclid=CMz7jePio7wCFSZBQgod9lMA1w

All in all, I wouldn't use anything else. I will say however, do not buy
the NoToil pre oiled filters, they just don't hold up. We use
exclusively TwinAir filters as they are strong and do the best, are the
standard in our sport.

http://www.bikebandit.com/twin-air-air-filter?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=merchantfeed&utm _campaign=pla&gclid=CKW-h8jio7wCFe6DQgodUXQAtw

Either way, I have been watching this thread but have been busy, didn't
know if I was gonna' get to this before the thread died but that's my
two cents on motorcycle filters and oil... Remember, our sport puts as
much dirt and **** to a filter system than probably any other sport on
earth.... and to this day we have never... um, sorry, just can't bring
myself to finish that sentence so close to a new season:) Think about it
though...

I clean my K&Ns with hot water and Simple Green - let them soak for a while, blow them out (from the
inside), let them dry, then spray them with ATF using a squirt bottle.

It's worked for over 200,000 miles, but I don't take my bike on dirt tracks too often!


Well, it's a different animal I guess... The K+N filter they make for
our bike, you can see right through but then agian, we move a lot of
**** into the air box you never see...

I'm talking about this style:

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?prod=SN-2540

One on each carb intake.


Yes, that is the kind of filter some of the smaller mx bikes take...
only the one I saw, was not a fiber filter or paper, it was a mesh and I
could see light right through it..

No, mine is almost exactly like the one pictured. Hell, it might even be the one pictured.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/29/2014 1:39 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:29:08 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/29/2014 12:53 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:20:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:00:17 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST), wrote:







The same brand, K&N.



K&N is snake oil. No real benefit, lets more junk in. May not matter if the motor isn't real. :-)



We're talking about the filters, not the oil. Compared to the spec Moto Guzzi filters, the K&N's

probably do just as well at filtering. Plus, it's not a major mechanical nightmare to change the air

filter.

I'm talking about the K&N filters. They may flow slightly better than stock filters, but let larger particles through. Unless you are running a race engine that's full throttle most of the time and gets rebuilt frequently, there's no benefit. After all, trhe vast majority of your running time is at partial throttle, and the stock filter can easily flow that much air. You do get a bit more intake noise, though!

The big benefit is the ease of cleaning and/or changing the filters. On an older Guzzi, the stock
filter is a nightmare to change.


Lot of parts to move out of the way, or hard to get out without
polluting the carb, or both??

It fits in a plastic box under the tank, in front of the battery, between the cylinders, under the
frame member which goes under the tank. It's simply a bitch to get to, which is why the change to
K&N's is usually one of the first mods made to the bike.


Yeah, I saw that when I saw the photo... holy crap! Wouldn't want to do
that between races:)

Fireboat Welcome
 

Fireboat Welcome
 

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:56:23 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.

When I went to look at a Dodge pickup, I left the dealership, went around the block and returned.
Roughest riding thing I've ever been in. I think a Farmall tractor was a better ride.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/30/2014 12:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.


When I was looking for trucks, we drove a F150, man it was a nice ride.
Best of any of the full size 4 door p'ups we drove.. Like a caddilac
compared to my Jeep:)

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/30/2014 1:41 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:56:23 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.

When I went to look at a Dodge pickup, I left the dealership, went around the block and returned.
Roughest riding thing I've ever been in. I think a Farmall tractor was a better ride.



I had a Dodge Ram 2500 HD for a while. Agreed, it was one rough riding
truck. Hit a crack in the road and bounce your head off the headliner.
I ended up giving it to one of my nephews when he was in Florida to use
as his construction business truck. He ended up blowing the
transmission running it in the quarter mile at some dragstrip.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:46:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/30/2014 1:41 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:56:23 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.

When I went to look at a Dodge pickup, I left the dealership, went around the block and returned.
Roughest riding thing I've ever been in. I think a Farmall tractor was a better ride.



I had a Dodge Ram 2500 HD for a while. Agreed, it was one rough riding
truck. Hit a crack in the road and bounce your head off the headliner.
I ended up giving it to one of my nephews when he was in Florida to use
as his construction business truck. He ended up blowing the
transmission running it in the quarter mile at some dragstrip.


When it first came out, that grille was the coolest thing on the block. But, when I tapped it and
found it was plastic, I thought it was much less 'cool'. And then I went around the block in
it...not for me. That was in '95 when I bought the GMC Sierra 1500. That was a good pickup. My
nephew still uses it as his every-day truck.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/30/2014 7:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:46:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/30/2014 1:41 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:56:23 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with
promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I
haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13
in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn
the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type
chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and
the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the
5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very
comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over
how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.


I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice
truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel
Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but
again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford
F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the
Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the
time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems
with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still
have that truck.

I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to
Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring
driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes
making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks.





Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new
smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks?

Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a
Dodge anything. I have ridden
in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious.

My buddy's wife has degenerative bone disease. He had to get rid of his
2000 Dodge diesel because of the nasty ride. Wife could not handle it.
Replaced it with a 2003 silverado diesel. She could handle that ride.

When I went to look at a Dodge pickup, I left the dealership, went around the block and returned.
Roughest riding thing I've ever been in. I think a Farmall tractor was a better ride.



I had a Dodge Ram 2500 HD for a while. Agreed, it was one rough riding
truck. Hit a crack in the road and bounce your head off the headliner.
I ended up giving it to one of my nephews when he was in Florida to use
as his construction business truck. He ended up blowing the
transmission running it in the quarter mile at some dragstrip.


When it first came out, that grille was the coolest thing on the block. But, when I tapped it and
found it was plastic, I thought it was much less 'cool'. And then I went around the block in
it...not for me. That was in '95 when I bought the GMC Sierra 1500. That was a good pickup. My
nephew still uses it as his every-day truck.


When the current Ram series first came out they may have ridden hard but
they were rugged trucks. One of customer facilities the I used to visit
often was next door to a railroad receiving and distribution point for
new vehicles. We'd sometimes go out and look at some of the vehicles as
they were loaded onto truck trailers for final delivery to the dealer.

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:28:58 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

Bigger size doesn't always mean better strength. It can just mean more weight... especially bad if the smaller, lighter components are strong enough for the job. Then you're just lugging around more weight along with that stiffer suspension to carry it.

Seems like Dodge has, for years, been the stiffest, most truck-like. Chevy was the softest, and Ford found the right combo in-between the two.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 20:28:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/30/2014 7:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:46:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/30/2014 1:41 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:56:23 -0600, Califbill wrote:

snipped

I had a Dodge Ram 2500 HD for a while. Agreed, it was one rough riding
truck. Hit a crack in the road and bounce your head off the headliner.
I ended up giving it to one of my nephews when he was in Florida to use
as his construction business truck. He ended up blowing the
transmission running it in the quarter mile at some dragstrip.


When it first came out, that grille was the coolest thing on the block. But, when I tapped it and
found it was plastic, I thought it was much less 'cool'. And then I went around the block in
it...not for me. That was in '95 when I bought the GMC Sierra 1500. That was a good pickup. My
nephew still uses it as his every-day truck.


When the current Ram series first came out they may have ridden hard but
they were rugged trucks. One of customer facilities the I used to visit
often was next door to a railroad receiving and distribution point for
new vehicles. We'd sometimes go out and look at some of the vehicles as
they were loaded onto truck trailers for final delivery to the dealer.

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

I believe that. But hell, I had to ride in it, and my wife was with me for our test drive. There's
no way she could stand that truck. Then we drove a Sierra 1500. All the difference in the world. I
suppose if I worked in a rock quarry and needed the truck to haul rock, the Dodge would be a way to
go - until the tranny went TU. Chrysler products in general get some very poor reliability reviews.

Oh, and the Dodge diesel pickup is about as quiet as an F-18 on afterburner.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:57:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:28:58 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

Bigger size doesn't always mean better strength. It can just mean more weight... especially bad if the smaller, lighter components are strong enough for the job. Then you're just lugging around more weight along with that stiffer suspension to carry it.

Seems like Dodge has, for years, been the stiffest, most truck-like. Chevy was the softest, and Ford found the right combo in-between the two.

If not for the Ford diesel engine reviews (right here also), I'd probably be in a Ford. I was right
proud of their 'go it alone' attitude. But the Silverado does everything I've wanted it to do,
pulling close to 11,000 lbs without a whimper.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On 1/31/2014 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:57:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:28:58 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

Bigger size doesn't always mean better strength. It can just mean more weight... especially bad if the smaller, lighter components are strong enough for the job. Then you're just lugging around more weight along with that stiffer suspension to carry it.

Seems like Dodge has, for years, been the stiffest, most truck-like. Chevy was the softest, and Ford found the right combo in-between the two.

If not for the Ford diesel engine reviews (right here also), I'd probably be in a Ford. I was right
proud of their 'go it alone' attitude. But the Silverado does everything I've wanted it to do,
pulling close to 11,000 lbs without a whimper.



I may come around to another Ford diesel someday now that they have
dumped the 6.0L in favor of the 6.4L and corrected the problems the
former had. There is no question that I liked the 20-22 mpg the F-350
got on the highway with gobs of power to tow. But then again, I
probably won't have need for anything that tows and plows if things work
out.

Had our first meeting with a realtor yesterday. Pretty interesting.
For you RC flying addicts, the realtor told us they will be hiring a
video and photography crew to come to the house to document the listing.
Part of that process will be a drone helicopter with an HD camera. He
said they will fly it up the long driveway and make a birdseye view to
the property, house, barn, paddocks, pool and landscaping. Sounds
pretty cool.

Fireboat Welcome
 

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:12:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/31/2014 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:57:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:28:58 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:

We often saw Dodge, Ford and Chevy/GM pickups. If you looked at the
undercarriage the components ... meaning wheel drums, rear end,
suspension, etc., were huge on the Dodges compared to the Fords and GM
products ... comparing the same series .... 150, 1500, 250, 2500, etc.
That's what convinced me to buy that hard riding Ram 2500 HD. It rode
hard but was a strong truck. Weakness was their transmissions.

Bigger size doesn't always mean better strength. It can just mean more weight... especially bad if the smaller, lighter components are strong enough for the job. Then you're just lugging around more weight along with that stiffer suspension to carry it.

Seems like Dodge has, for years, been the stiffest, most truck-like. Chevy was the softest, and Ford found the right combo in-between the two.

If not for the Ford diesel engine reviews (right here also), I'd probably be in a Ford. I was right
proud of their 'go it alone' attitude. But the Silverado does everything I've wanted it to do,
pulling close to 11,000 lbs without a whimper.



I may come around to another Ford diesel someday now that they have
dumped the 6.0L in favor of the 6.4L and corrected the problems the
former had. There is no question that I liked the 20-22 mpg the F-350
got on the highway with gobs of power to tow. But then again, I
probably won't have need for anything that tows and plows if things work
out.

Had our first meeting with a realtor yesterday. Pretty interesting.
For you RC flying addicts, the realtor told us they will be hiring a
video and photography crew to come to the house to document the listing.
Part of that process will be a drone helicopter with an HD camera. He
said they will fly it up the long driveway and make a birdseye view to
the property, house, barn, paddocks, pool and landscaping. Sounds
pretty cool.


They are very cool!

Here's a vid showing some of their capability. Unreal. And the cameras are not that expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2rMw0JRCnE