On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:29:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

This is a brutal country we live in and the brutality teaches our
children much that is bad.

That's just silly. Honduras is brutal. El Salvador is brutal. Most of Afica is brutal. The USA barely makes a scratch.

Besides, it's the parent's job to teach children that the violence they see on all forms of media (real and for "entertainment") is bad. I agree with Mr. Luddite that many of them are falling down on the job, if they are even on the job at all.

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:29:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Houston cops cuff and detain man for an hour

for giving change to homeless person





Police in Houston, Texas handcuffed, detained and searched the vehicle

of an innocent man for over an hour this week, all because he gave

change to a homeless person. According to Houston�s Channel 2 News,

police wrongfully accused Greg Snider of giving drugs to the man who

approached him and asked for change.



Snider said that he was pulling out of a parking deck and talking on his

cell phone when a homeless man asked if he could spare any change.

Snider rolled down his window, gave the man 75 cents and drove away.



Minutes later, a Houston police cruiser appeared in his rear-view

mirror, blue lights blazing. He pulled over and was astonished to find

himself face-to-face with a violently agitated officer.



�He�s screaming. He�s yelling. He�s telling me to get out of the car.

He�s telling me to put my hands on the hood,� Snider recounted. �They�re

like, �We saw you downtown. We saw what you did.� And I was like, �Are

you kidding me? I gave a homeless man 75 cents.��



Officers dragged Snider from his car and cuffed him on the side of the

road. At least 10 other police cruisers arrived at the scene and the

officers spent an hour with drug-sniffing dogs, ripping apart the

interior of Snider�s car and looking for drugs that weren�t there.



Finally, the police were forced to admit their mistake and let Snider

go. He is considering legal action and was particularly put off that the

cops seemed to find the whole thing funny.



�He said everything was a misunderstanding and that I was free to go,�

Snider said. �They were laughing and everything.�



Watch video about this story, embedded below:



http://tinyurl.com/p3dmuey



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In a previous post about misbehaving kids, I mentioned there were a lot

of changes in our society in the last 60 years that contributed to the

problem, and it was a lot more than just plain parenting.



This is a brutal country we live in�and the brutality teaches our

children much that is bad.

FLAGGED for the off-topic **** IT IS !!!

On 1/18/14, 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:29:03 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Houston cops cuff and detain man for an hour
for giving change to homeless person


Police in Houston, Texas handcuffed, detained and searched the vehicle
of an innocent man for over an hour this week, all because he gave
change to a homeless person. According to Houston’s Channel 2 News,
police wrongfully accused Greg Snider of giving drugs to the man who
approached him and asked for change.

Snider said that he was pulling out of a parking deck and talking on his
cell phone when a homeless man asked if he could spare any change.
Snider rolled down his window, gave the man 75 cents and drove away.

Minutes later, a Houston police cruiser appeared in his rear-view
mirror, blue lights blazing. He pulled over and was astonished to find
himself face-to-face with a violently agitated officer.

“He’s screaming. He’s yelling. He’s telling me to get out of the car.
He’s telling me to put my hands on the hood,� Snider recounted. “They’re
like, ‘We saw you downtown. We saw what you did.’ And I was like, ‘Are
you kidding me? I gave a homeless man 75 cents.’�

Officers dragged Snider from his car and cuffed him on the side of the
road. At least 10 other police cruisers arrived at the scene and the
officers spent an hour with drug-sniffing dogs, ripping apart the
interior of Snider’s car and looking for drugs that weren’t there.

Finally, the police were forced to admit their mistake and let Snider
go. He is considering legal action and was particularly put off that the
cops seemed to find the whole thing funny.

“He said everything was a misunderstanding and that I was free to go,�
Snider said. “They were laughing and everything.�

Watch video about this story, embedded below:

http://tinyurl.com/p3dmuey

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In a previous post about misbehaving kids, I mentioned there were a lot
of changes in our society in the last 60 years that contributed to the
problem, and it was a lot more than just plain parenting.

This is a brutal country we live in…and the brutality teaches our
children much that is bad.


The government is out of control.


Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

On 1/18/14, 2:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:45:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:29:03 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Houston cops cuff and detain man for an hour
for giving change to homeless person


The government is out of control.


Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

This is not a "societal problem" it is just another example of an
oppressive government operation.

The war on drugs is right up there with the war on terror in
threatening our liberty in the name of some perceived increase in
safety.

That is a perfect indication of a government running out of control.

This cop's intrusion was completely in accordance with what the
federal government has funded and directed local cops to do.
The only difference is, if the DEA did it, there would have been a
paramilitary DEA SWAT team taking the guy down.



It is a societal problem because society allows such behavior on the
part of police and other overbearing "authority" figures. Cops all over
the country seem to be getting more violent in terms of the use of
deadly or near deadly force. That, again, is a societal problem. Our
society talks a lot about violence, eh? Well, there are all sorts of
violence.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:39:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:42 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:45:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:29:03 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Houston cops cuff and detain man for an hour
for giving change to homeless person


The government is out of control.


Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

This is not a "societal problem" it is just another example of an
oppressive government operation.

The war on drugs is right up there with the war on terror in
threatening our liberty in the name of some perceived increase in
safety.

That is a perfect indication of a government running out of control.

This cop's intrusion was completely in accordance with what the
federal government has funded and directed local cops to do.
The only difference is, if the DEA did it, there would have been a
paramilitary DEA SWAT team taking the guy down.



It is a societal problem because society allows such behavior on the
part of police and other overbearing "authority" figures. Cops all over
the country seem to be getting more violent in terms of the use of
deadly or near deadly force. That, again, is a societal problem. Our
society talks a lot about violence, eh? Well, there are all sorts of
violence.

Key word is 'seem'. It could have something to do with the media going ballistic anytime a police
officer makes a mistake. How often have you seen the media publish a story about a cop doing good?
There are stupid cops, just as there are stupid journalists, stupid mayors, stupid Presidents, and
stupid soldiers. To denigrate our society because of a few outliers doesn't seem quite right, Harry.

On 1/18/14, 11:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:39:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:42 PM, wrote:

Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

This is not a "societal problem" it is just another example of an
oppressive government operation.

The war on drugs is right up there with the war on terror in
threatening our liberty in the name of some perceived increase in
safety.

That is a perfect indication of a government running out of control.

This cop's intrusion was completely in accordance with what the
federal government has funded and directed local cops to do.
The only difference is, if the DEA did it, there would have been a
paramilitary DEA SWAT team taking the guy down.



It is a societal problem because society allows such behavior on the
part of police and other overbearing "authority" figures. Cops all over
the country seem to be getting more violent in terms of the use of
deadly or near deadly force. That, again, is a societal problem. Our
society talks a lot about violence, eh? Well, there are all sorts of
violence.

These are agents of the GOVERNMENT, if they are out of control, the
government is out of control.
These are the government people with the power to kill us on a whim.
Why shouldn't it be an indication of the mindset of the "leaders"?

We are willing to blame Cristie for a traffic jam, why isn't the mayor
and city council responsible for abuses of the police?
(Governor, Congressman or President)

Who do they work for? Who writes the laws they enforce? More
important, who writes "Policy"?

"Stop and FrIsk", was not a law in New York, it was a policy.
I bet stopping and questioning people in cars, giving money to people
on foot, was a policy in this "target" area too.




*We* are the government, my friend. *We.* We allow the police to get
out of control, we allow the federal government to torture, we allow the
drug prosecutions, et cetera.

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:30:09 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 11:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:39:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:42 PM, wrote:

Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

This is not a "societal problem" it is just another example of an
oppressive government operation.

The war on drugs is right up there with the war on terror in
threatening our liberty in the name of some perceived increase in
safety.

That is a perfect indication of a government running out of control.

This cop's intrusion was completely in accordance with what the
federal government has funded and directed local cops to do.
The only difference is, if the DEA did it, there would have been a
paramilitary DEA SWAT team taking the guy down.



It is a societal problem because society allows such behavior on the
part of police and other overbearing "authority" figures. Cops all over
the country seem to be getting more violent in terms of the use of
deadly or near deadly force. That, again, is a societal problem. Our
society talks a lot about violence, eh? Well, there are all sorts of
violence.

These are agents of the GOVERNMENT, if they are out of control, the
government is out of control.
These are the government people with the power to kill us on a whim.
Why shouldn't it be an indication of the mindset of the "leaders"?

We are willing to blame Cristie for a traffic jam, why isn't the mayor
and city council responsible for abuses of the police?
(Governor, Congressman or President)

Who do they work for? Who writes the laws they enforce? More
important, who writes "Policy"?

"Stop and FrIsk", was not a law in New York, it was a policy.
I bet stopping and questioning people in cars, giving money to people
on foot, was a policy in this "target" area too.




*We* are the government, my friend. *We.* We allow the police to get
out of control, we allow the federal government to torture, we allow the
drug prosecutions, et cetera.

Actually only a small majority is the 'we'. I didn't vote for the current administration.

On 1/19/2014 10:57 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:30:09 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 11:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:39:16 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/18/14, 2:42 PM, wrote:

Gotta love these singularity answers to societal problems.

This is not a "societal problem" it is just another example of an
oppressive government operation.

The war on drugs is right up there with the war on terror in
threatening our liberty in the name of some perceived increase in
safety.

That is a perfect indication of a government running out of control.

This cop's intrusion was completely in accordance with what the
federal government has funded and directed local cops to do.
The only difference is, if the DEA did it, there would have been a
paramilitary DEA SWAT team taking the guy down.



It is a societal problem because society allows such behavior on the
part of police and other overbearing "authority" figures. Cops all over
the country seem to be getting more violent in terms of the use of
deadly or near deadly force. That, again, is a societal problem. Our
society talks a lot about violence, eh? Well, there are all sorts of
violence.

These are agents of the GOVERNMENT, if they are out of control, the
government is out of control.
These are the government people with the power to kill us on a whim.
Why shouldn't it be an indication of the mindset of the "leaders"?

We are willing to blame Cristie for a traffic jam, why isn't the mayor
and city council responsible for abuses of the police?
(Governor, Congressman or President)

Who do they work for? Who writes the laws they enforce? More
important, who writes "Policy"?

"Stop and FrIsk", was not a law in New York, it was a policy.
I bet stopping and questioning people in cars, giving money to people
on foot, was a policy in this "target" area too.




*We* are the government, my friend. *We.* We allow the police to get
out of control, we allow the federal government to torture, we allow the
drug prosecutions, et cetera.

Actually only a small majority is the 'we'. I didn't vote for the current administration.

Definitely chaff you are responding to.