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On 1/20/2014 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/20/2014 8:25 AM, Hank wrote: On 1/20/2014 5:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/19/2014 11:43 PM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:44:31 -0600, Califbill wrote: I installed two, 60 watt LED bulbs in my loft studio ceiling. They are shaped like regular old light bulbs and illuminate in the same, non-directional pattern. I like them. Plenty of light, doesn't have any funny color and I have them controlled by a regular dimmer designed for incandescents. No problems dimming them although it doesn't like controlling only one. Not enough load. The LEDs may be OK. But the mini fluorescent. More expensive, do not last any longer and are toxic waste. Ow many land fills will become superfund sites with the bulbs? My problem with LEDS and CFLs is they do not change color when you dim them. The warmer colors you get from a dimmed incandescent is the whole point. I know they could do this with a color changing LED but at what cost? If I am happy with a $1.50 lamp that will last almost forever running at 75% power, why would I want a $50+ LED that uses almost as much power "dimmed" as it does full bright and may actually fail sooner. I never noticed that the LED bulbs are not "warmer" color-wise when dimmed. I guess that's not very important to me. The room just gets darker. The whole idea behind these types of bulbs is energy conservation, not romantic lighting. Replacing one 60 or 75 watt incandescent bulb with a LED bulb of equivalent lighting may not be huge, but replacing tens or hundreds of millions across the country sure is. Lighting makes up about 13 percent of average residential electricity consumption. Replacing the old bulbs as they burn out with LED equivalents makes sense to me. We've slowly been doing that over the past year or so and also replacing any of those stupid CFL type lights we have with LED types. The built-in ballast used in CFLs seem to pop as often or even more so than the incandescent filaments did. The LED bulbs I bought are made by Cree. They don't cost $50. They are $12.95. 800 lumen, dimmable, 25,000 hour life expectancy, 10 year warranty and consume 9.5 watts. I just realized that the gov't. ban on incands. was created to guide the thrifty among us to stop making phony excuses for an inferior product. I'm saving about $50 a month on my electric bill without changing any thing except light bulbs. And that's not counting replacement cost. My replacement cost last year was $10. (one bulb) You need to relinquish your "Luddite" status. There are those here more deserving. I just need to see it for myself sometimes. I had my doubts about LED type lighting but Cree and Phillips have obviously made some major breakthoughs. Jury is still out on how long they last, but the energy savings reflected on your monthly bill is worth the experiment. Believe it or not, one of the reasons I decided to investigate them was a result of searching for stage lighting for the new performance venue I was in involved with. The old PAR-64 type stage lights with mylar color filters are quickly becoming a thing of the past, replaced with very powerful and bright LED array lights that can be programmed to generate any color imaginable by controlling and mixing the LED output colors. These are very high powered LEDs, arranged in a pod and are every bit as bright as the 300 or 500 watt single incandescent bulbs they are replacing. They also draw a tiny fraction of the power and generate very little heat compared to the bulbs they are replacing. Residential, multi-color LED lighting in homes is a growing industry as well. You can change colors, even program sequences, within a room or rooms. I am not sure if it's the same technology but in the mid eighties I saw Hall and Oates. They had some brand new, super top secret color changing spots by SoundCo if I remember correctly. At the time they were the talk of the lighting industry... |
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