On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:26:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick posted didn't jibe with his comments.
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Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was funny.


Is the compilation link the one posted by Tom? I couldn't get it to work.
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On 12/31/13, 2:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Not at all. Slavery was just as wrong in the past as it is in the
present. It is inherently wrong. There was and is no moral justification
for slavery. You are trying to justify superstition, and you can easily
do it among religious conservatives, because many of them believe that
sort of thing, just as they believe "the bible" was divinely written and
is the word of god, even though anyone with a brain and a read of
history knows that isn't the case...oh, and those Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John "books"? They weren't written by any of those four guys.

Sorry.


If there was (and is) no moral justification for slavery, then it and
it's history should not be taught in school, just like any discussion or
recognition to creationism theories according to your logic.

I am not saying to preach it. I am saying that it should not be ignored
as part of someones general education of the influences on society. It's
a social awareness issue, not a course in how we got here.


I'm not suggesting that teaching about slavery should be ignored in the
public schools. Facts about it and its evils should be taught.
Creationism is religion and shouldn't be taught as fact or reality. The
only reality about it is that some people believe in it. I have no
objection to it being included as part of a course on comparative
religions in public high schools, so long as that course avoids advocacy
of any particular religious beliefs. And of course, the course should
include material for study and discussion on agnosticism and atheism, too.

Hell, back in the dark ages of junior high, the eighth grade, I did a
paper and presented on how Greek mythology evolved into Roman mythology.
I didn't expert that anyone would convert, nor did I advocate for either
the Greek or the Roman beliefs.

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On 12/31/2013 3:20 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:26:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick posted didn't jibe with his comments.
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Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was funny.


Is the compilation link the one posted by Tom? I couldn't get it to work.
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Hope you're day is spectacular!



No. The one posted by Tom was a snippit of the actual show I commented
on. Interestingly, it has been removed. I wonder why.

On 12/31/2013 3:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 2:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Not at all. Slavery was just as wrong in the past as it is in the
present. It is inherently wrong. There was and is no moral justification
for slavery. You are trying to justify superstition, and you can easily
do it among religious conservatives, because many of them believe that
sort of thing, just as they believe "the bible" was divinely written and
is the word of god, even though anyone with a brain and a read of
history knows that isn't the case...oh, and those Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John "books"? They weren't written by any of those four guys.

Sorry.


If there was (and is) no moral justification for slavery, then it and
it's history should not be taught in school, just like any discussion or
recognition to creationism theories according to your logic.

I am not saying to preach it. I am saying that it should not be ignored
as part of someones general education of the influences on society. It's
a social awareness issue, not a course in how we got here.


I'm not suggesting that teaching about slavery should be ignored in the
public schools. Facts about it and its evils should be taught.
Creationism is religion and shouldn't be taught as fact or reality. The
only reality about it is that some people believe in it. I have no
objection to it being included as part of a course on comparative
religions in public high schools, so long as that course avoids advocacy
of any particular religious beliefs. And of course, the course should
include material for study and discussion on agnosticism and atheism, too.

Hell, back in the dark ages of junior high, the eighth grade, I did a
paper and presented on how Greek mythology evolved into Roman mythology.
I didn't expert that anyone would convert, nor did I advocate for either
the Greek or the Roman beliefs.



When we were in junior or even senior high school, the world wasn't so
uptight about what we were exposed to in school. Heck, if we were about
to take a test we were unprepared for we could even pray for help.

I see absolutely no reason that a class in social sciences cannot
discuss the different belief systems from a historical point of view.
One over another should not be emphasized or encouraged. Let people
learn as much as they can and make up their own minds.

On 12/31/13, 3:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 3:20 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:26:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick
posted didn't jibe with his comments.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was
funny.


Is the compilation link the one posted by Tom? I couldn't get it to work.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



No. The one posted by Tom was a snippit of the actual show I commented
on. Interestingly, it has been removed. I wonder why.




Tom? Our old Tom who moved to the Carolinas or Billy Bruce, the idiot
from Alabama, who poses here with several faked IDs?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 12/31/2013 3:43 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 3:20 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:26:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick
posted didn't jibe with his comments.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was
funny.


Is the compilation link the one posted by Tom? I couldn't get it to
work.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



No. The one posted by Tom was a snippit of the actual show I commented
on. Interestingly, it has been removed. I wonder why.




Tom? Our old Tom who moved to the Carolinas or Billy Bruce, the idiot
from Alabama, who poses here with several faked IDs?


I don't know which "Tom". I don't think it's Tom who move to SC.

On 12/31/2013 2:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring
"Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...
demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a
college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a
picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his
son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44




Perry has apologized.

http://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-host-apologizes-to-mitt-romney-172542402.html

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:36:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/31/2013 3:20 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:26:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick posted didn't jibe with his comments.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was funny.


Is the compilation link the one posted by Tom? I couldn't get it to work.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



No. The one posted by Tom was a snippit of the actual show I commented
on. Interestingly, it has been removed. I wonder why.


No idea.

BTW, I responded. It didn't make it.
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On 12/31/13, 3:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 3:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 2:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Not at all. Slavery was just as wrong in the past as it is in the
present. It is inherently wrong. There was and is no moral
justification
for slavery. You are trying to justify superstition, and you can easily
do it among religious conservatives, because many of them believe that
sort of thing, just as they believe "the bible" was divinely written
and
is the word of god, even though anyone with a brain and a read of
history knows that isn't the case...oh, and those Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John "books"? They weren't written by any of those four guys.

Sorry.


If there was (and is) no moral justification for slavery, then it and
it's history should not be taught in school, just like any discussion or
recognition to creationism theories according to your logic.

I am not saying to preach it. I am saying that it should not be ignored
as part of someones general education of the influences on society. It's
a social awareness issue, not a course in how we got here.


I'm not suggesting that teaching about slavery should be ignored in the
public schools. Facts about it and its evils should be taught.
Creationism is religion and shouldn't be taught as fact or reality. The
only reality about it is that some people believe in it. I have no
objection to it being included as part of a course on comparative
religions in public high schools, so long as that course avoids advocacy
of any particular religious beliefs. And of course, the course should
include material for study and discussion on agnosticism and atheism,
too.

Hell, back in the dark ages of junior high, the eighth grade, I did a
paper and presented on how Greek mythology evolved into Roman mythology.
I didn't expert that anyone would convert, nor did I advocate for either
the Greek or the Roman beliefs.



When we were in junior or even senior high school, the world wasn't so
uptight about what we were exposed to in school. Heck, if we were about
to take a test we were unprepared for we could even pray for help.

I see absolutely no reason that a class in social sciences cannot
discuss the different belief systems from a historical point of view.
One over another should not be emphasized or encouraged. Let people
learn as much as they can and make up their own minds.



You can still pray for help as an individual in a public school.

When I was in grammar school we stopped saying the "pledge of
allegiance" right after it was "modified" to include the "under god"
bull****. There were lots of complaints about including that phrase from
lots of parents, so the Board dropped it from the morning exercise. My
mother was obliquely involved in that because a number of Republican
voters called to complain and either wanted the phrase dropped or the
pledge dropped. She was whatever the New Haven term for "ward heeler"
was in the party, a minor functionary mostly concerned with GOTV efforts
for Republican candidates.



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Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:48:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/31/2013 2:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring
"Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...
demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a
college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a
picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his
son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44




Perry has apologized.

http://news.yahoo.com/msnbc-host-apologizes-to-mitt-romney-172542402.html

Perry says she meant no offense. I wonder what the hell she *did* mean.
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