On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while 31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20 percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution — in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms — has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 12/31/2013 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring
"Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...
demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened
substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their
present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white
mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while
31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20
percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution — in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms — has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and
dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and
her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.


In other words, only present information that *you* happen to believe
and suppress anything else. Wow. What enlightenment.

On 12/31/13, 9:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring
"Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...
demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a
college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other
living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since
the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened
substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in
the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static
view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their
present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white
mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of
Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while
31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20
percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and
people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution — in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms — has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and
dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and
her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs
has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling
the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.


In other words, only present information that *you* happen to believe
and suppress anything else. Wow. What enlightenment.





Not at all. Slavery was just as wrong in the past as it is in the
present. It is inherently wrong. There was and is no moral justification
for slavery. You are trying to justify superstition, and you can easily
do it among religious conservatives, because many of them believe that
sort of thing, just as they believe "the bible" was divinely written and
is the word of god, even though anyone with a brain and a read of
history knows that isn't the case...oh, and those Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John "books"? They weren't written by any of those four guys.

Sorry.

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick posted didn't jibe with his comments.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!

On 12/31/2013 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44









It surprises you that the commentators at MSNBC are racist? Interesting...

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:43:00 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring

"Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is

pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...

demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated

members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political

science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a

professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of

Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be

African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.

Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,

plus

the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44





















Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the

Republican Party:







The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the

scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll

released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.



The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other living

things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe

"humans

and other living things have existed in their present form since the

beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a

similar

poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened

substantially.



In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of

evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in the

intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest

poll,

nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static view of

human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats

expressed

that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown

for

Democrats.



"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying

that

humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior

researcher

who conducted the analysis, .



Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they

believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of

creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."



According to Pew:



"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of

black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their

present

form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious

groups, a

minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white

mainline

Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have

evolved

over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and

68%

of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of Hispanic

Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while

31%

reject that idea."



Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20

percent

more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap

between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and people

with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)

was

also fairly pronounced.



The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of

plus

or minus 3 percentage points.



As , the issue of evolution � in particular in states where there

have

been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school

classrooms � has increasingly placed members of the scientific

community

at odds with politicians and local school boards.



http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt





Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and

dinosaurs

walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first

reality show.





What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and

her

liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt

Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?











Nothing and...everything.









I think you were just sharing my soapbox.



I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if

schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of

creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points

out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they

are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the

school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's

education.



Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts

college programs.









"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs has

no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence

or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling the

virtues of superstition.



There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.



It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the

population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up

with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.







You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a

large percentage of the population believes something that you don't

buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.



I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in

public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many

who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in

evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.











Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that

those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give

those who believe in slavery a pass?



I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and

superstition in society when and where we can.





In other words, only present information that *you* happen to believe

and suppress anything else. Wow. What enlightenment.

Besides, slavery is still "taught" in school. It isn't swept under the rug and ignored. But some would sweep other's ideas and beliefs under the rug if it doesn't suit them.

Liberals sure don't seem to mind pushing their particular beliefs onto other folks.

In article , says...

On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while 31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20 percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution ? in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms ? has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.

There are still people in this world who believe slavery is ok. The emancipation proclamation
didn't solve the slavery issue outside of the USA.

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:37:29 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%) and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while 31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20 percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution ? in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms ? has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.

There are still people in this world who believe slavery is ok. The emancipation proclamation
didn't solve the slavery issue outside of the USA.

There's a whole group of Muslims who feel that way about females. But, that's OK to some here.

For example:

"Fear of poverty keeps many Muslim women locked in bad marriages, as does the prospect of losing
their children. Typically, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and girls after the onset
of puberty. Maryam, an Iranian woman, says she has stayed married for 20 years to a philandering
opium addict she does not love because she fears losing guardianship of her teenage daughter. "Islam
supposedly gives me the right to divorce," she says. "But what about my rights afterward?"

Women's rights are compromised further by a section in the Koran, sura 4:34, that has been
interpreted to say that men have "pre-eminence" over women or that they are "overseers" of women.
The verse goes on to say that the husband of an insubordinate wife should first admonish her, then
leave her to sleep alone and finally beat her. Wife beating is so prevalent in the Muslim world that
social workers who assist battered women in Egypt, for example, spend much of their time trying to
convince victims that their husbands' violent acts are unacceptable."

Read mo The Women of Islam - TIME
http://content.time.com/time/world/a...#ixzz2p4oLrcVw

--

Hope you're day is spectacular!

On 12/31/2013 10:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 9:19 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 9:09 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:50 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 8:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/31/2013 8:08 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/31/13, 3:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring
"Highlights" of
their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is
pretty
funny. (link below)

BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ...
demonstrated
that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated
members of
"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a
college
dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political
science.
In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a
professor at
Tulane University. She's also African-American.

During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of
Mitt
Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's
adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be
African-American.

What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family.
Comments
like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc.,
plus
the
typical anti-conservative political comments.

So much for the "enlightened" ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44










Sometimes it is really difficult to ignore "the stupid" in the
Republican Party:



The divide between Republicans and Democrats on their views of the
scientific theory of evolution is widening, according to a new
poll
released by the Pew Research Religion and Public Life Project.

The overall percentage of Americans who say "humans and other
living
things evolved over time" (60 percent) versus those who believe
"humans
and other living things have existed in their present form since
the
beginning of time" (33 percent) is about the same as it was in a
similar
poll four years ago. But the political gap has widened
substantially.

In 2009, 54 percent of Republicans said they accepted the
theory of
evolution as true, compared with 64 percent of Democrats. But in
the
intervening years, opinions appear to have evolved: In the latest
poll,
nearly half of Republicans (48 percent) believed in a static
view of
human and animal origins, while just 30 percent of Democrats
expressed
that point of view. Independents tracked closely with the
breakdown
for
Democrats.

"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now
saying
that
humans have evolved over time," says Cary Funk, a Pew senior
researcher
who conducted the analysis, .

Nearly a quarter (24 percent) of those surveyed by Pew said they
believed that a "supreme being guided evolution for the purpose of
creating humans and other life in the form it exists today."

According to Pew:

"A majority of white evangelical Protestants (64%) and
half of
black Protestants (50%) say that humans have existed in their
present
form since the beginning of time. But in other large religious
groups, a
minority holds this view. In fact, nearly eight-in-ten white
mainline
Protestants (78%) say that humans and other living things have
evolved
over time. Three-quarters of the religiously unaffiliated (76%)
and
68%
of white non-Hispanic Catholics say the same. About half of
Hispanic
Catholics (53%) believe that humans have evolved over time, while
31%
reject that idea."

Broken down by age, respondents 18-29 years old were about 20
percent
more likely to accept evolution as were the 65+ age group. The gap
between college graduates (72 percent accepted evolution) and
people
with a high school diploma or less (51 percent accepted evolution)
was
also fairly pronounced.

The Pew survey sampled 1,983 respondents, with a margin of
error of
plus
or minus 3 percentage points.

As , the issue of evolution — in particular in states where there
have
been high-profile fights over how it is presented in public school
classrooms — has increasingly placed members of the scientific
community
at odds with politicians and local school boards.

http://tinyurl.com/qzp8llt


Since "the beginning of time." Conservatives belief man and
dinosaurs
walked the earth together, and that "The Flintstones" was the
first
reality show.


What does any of that have to do with Dr. Melissa Harris Perry and
her
liberal panel yukking it up and high-fiving each other about Mitt
Romney's son adopting an African-American baby?





Nothing and...everything.




I think you were just sharing my soapbox.

I for one don't give a hoot who believes what. I also don't care if
schools teach the *theories* of evolution or the *theories* of
creationism. Both exist in our society ... as your Pew survey points
out, so why suppress one at the expense of the other? As long as
they
are presented as *theories* and not necessarily as proven fact by the
school's curriculum, it seems to me that it only broadens a person's
education.

Leave the final brainwashing to the liberal professors in liberal
arts
college programs.




"Creationism" is based on religion and teaching of religious beliefs
has
no place in the public schools. Also, there is *no* scientific
evidence
or proof for religious beliefs. Might as well have a class extolling
the
virtues of superstition.

There is plenty of scientifically valid proof for evolution.

It matters what people believe. If you have a huge percentage of the
population believing superstition and belittling science, you end up
with a stupid society, which is sort of what we have now in 'Merika.



You contradict yourself. "It matters what people believe", yet if a
large percentage of the population believes something that you don't
buy, you want it banned from being discussed in school.

I am not advocating the actual teaching or preaching of creationism in
public schools, but rather the fact that in our society there are many
who believe in it. Just teach the facts. Most people believe in
evolution but there are many who believe otherwise.





Many people used to believe that slavery was ok. Does that mean that
those of us who think and thought it was an abomination should give
those who believe in slavery a pass?

I don't think so. I think it behooves to stamp out stupidity and
superstition in society when and where we can.


In other words, only present information that *you* happen to believe
and suppress anything else. Wow. What enlightenment.





Not at all. Slavery was just as wrong in the past as it is in the
present. It is inherently wrong. There was and is no moral justification
for slavery. You are trying to justify superstition, and you can easily
do it among religious conservatives, because many of them believe that
sort of thing, just as they believe "the bible" was divinely written and
is the word of god, even though anyone with a brain and a read of
history knows that isn't the case...oh, and those Matthew, Mark, Luke
and John "books"? They weren't written by any of those four guys.

Sorry.


If there was (and is) no moral justification for slavery, then it and
it's history should not be taught in school, just like any discussion or
recognition to creationism theories according to your logic.

I am not saying to preach it. I am saying that it should not be ignored
as part of someones general education of the influences on society.
It's a social awareness issue, not a course in how we got here.

On 12/31/2013 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:00:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:47:57 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The various hosts of MSNBC shows have been featuring "Highlights" of

their 2013 shows. Someone put together this compilation that is pretty

funny. (link below)



BTW, one of the show hosts ... Melissa Harris Perry ... demonstrated

that racism is alive and well even among the highly educated members of

"academia" that Perry represents. She is the daughter of a college

dean, has a bachelor's degree in English and a PhD in political science.

In addition to being an MSNBC show host, she is also a professor at

Tulane University. She's also African-American.



During her year in review show on Sunday, she showed a picture of Mitt

Romney's large family that included Mitt Romney holding his son's

adopted toddler on his knee. The toddler happens to be African-American.



What fun Perry and her panel had mocking the Romney family. Comments

like, "One thing is not like the others", "Token baby", etc., plus the

typical anti-conservative political comments.



So much for the "enlightened" ones.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRA5H3iuMQ#t=44

Richard, I believe this is the link you were wishing to post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPbhXNOD9Q

That one's gone. "Removed by user." Shame, 'cause the one Dick posted didn't jibe with his comments.
--

Hope you're day is spectacular!



Actually I *intended* to link the compilation link as indicated in the
first sentence of my original post in this thread. I thought it was funny.