On 12/17/13, 10:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:53:35 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/17/13, 7:09 AM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:49:09 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:

The rich give to help the rich:





Hey Harry. Surely you're a charitable man. Instead of gripe about "the rich" why don't you tell us what YOU give and WHO it helps?





We give to nonsectarian organizations that help families and individuals

in need of shelter, clothing, food, and medical attention.


"We give nonsectarian organizations?"

How about getting close and personal? Like, pay somebody's back utility bill so they don't get their gas shut off, or buy somebody a cheap but dependable beater car so they can make it to their new job. Donate a few truckloads of firewood so a family because they can't financially fill a propane tank? How about fix the under pinning on a widows trailer so her pipes don't freeze? Or, send some people some emergency bucks because of a sudden health catastrophe, or work really close with local disaster relief when a tornado comes through...

You ought to try something like that. It beats trying to satisfy a conscience by throwing a few shekels into a bottomless pit so you can pay somebody else to deal with "the poooooor"


So, Tim, what do you tell a family to which you’ve given food because
their food stamps were cut because your political party thought it was
more important to protect the tax cuts of the rich and subsidies for Big
Oil?

Are you familiar with Maimonides and the Eight Levels of Charity he
outlined?

The highest level, he wrote, is to give someone a gift or loan or go
into business with him or find him a job so that he no longer has to
depend on others.

Do you do that or give to a charity that does that? We do.

The second highest level is to help those who need it without knowing
who the recipient is and without the recipient knowing who you are,
because this is considered charity solely for the sake of heaven. That’s
how we give . . .anonymously.

Oh, wait, I forgot. You don’t pay attention to the Pope because you’re
not a Papist and I assume that means you wouldn’t pay attention to
Maimonides because he was a Jew. Right?

But, wait. You claim to pay attention to Jesus . . . but he was a Jew.

Religion… it’s *so* confusing.



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