"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 5:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps,
welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.


Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a
few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the
United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have
to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having
to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler
society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have
no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists."

We really need to find a cure for "religion."




How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that
dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with
an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take
care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the
women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably
do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ,
cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost
the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot
more for the poor, than any group of atheists!



Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time
one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their
parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created
their problem by being born, right?





No, we created the problem by making it easy to have a lot of kids and not
care for them! And you reading comprehension still sucks. I pointed out
early on, we need to take care of the kids. But remove the problem parents
from becoming parents over and over.



By what means, Bilious? Involuntary sterilization, like the Germans did
to the Jews and the Gypsies in the late 1930s and 1940s? I don't think
that will go over big here.

Perhaps a better approach might be to destigmatize sexuality, and start
teaching about "the birds and the bees" in our public schools starting
in, say, the 4th grade and continuing through high school, and also, to
sexually active kids and adults, making condoms and other forms of birth
control readily available at little or no charge. It's significantly less
expensive to give a young couple a pack of condoms or a packet of pills
than it is to support yet another baby. And of course, the morning after
pill and abortion on demand will also help keep down the numbers of unsupported kids.




We start teaching sex in schools earlier now than we did in your on my
youth. How has that worked out? Condoms, Norplant, pills are all
available a,lot cheaper and easier than most of the items those 'poor'
acquire. Just one pair of those fancy sneakers would pay for a couple
years birth control even if they had to pay for it. But since those same
poor are on Medicaid, what is their excuse for getting pregnant? Where is
society holding those 'parents' responsible for the child? Maybe we honor
those deadbeats too much!
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/22...t-reality-show
He should have the option of getting snipped, or going to jail for stealing
from society. Society is having to put up the money for his pecker use, so
he is stealing from society. But, you who brags of having sexual relations
as a very young male, are probably jealous of those deadbeats.


Again, Bilious, I think you are drowning in your right-wingedness.

I was lucky enough to enjoy sexual intercourse at a young age, and smart
enough to know how to prevent my swimmers from fertilizing a girl's eggs.
Your comment about jealousy is just another example of your ignorance.


Bull****. I am not "right wing" as you state. You are so far to left,
that anyone even towards the middle is a righty to you! You were probably
lucky as the girl knew how to prevent pregnancy. Explain why we have so
much out of wedlock and even in wedlock poor popping out babies they can
not afford, or even know how to take care of.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:48:51 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



snip...



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



snip...



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.



I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell
of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on
the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do
understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree
with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe
the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,
and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a
negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and
saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the
recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are
part of the Protestant sects.

Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and
rules onto others who believe differently.

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:19:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



snip...



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



snip...



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.

I think the Pope has great intentions. Helping the poor is always a noble gesture, unless the help
tends to keep them poor and dependant, which it does in this country. The problem with giving money
to the poorest of countries is that the money goes into the hands of the 'leaders' and never gets to
the poor. That's where charities and missionaries come in.

FOAESAD can say all he wants about missionaries just trying to force their religion on the poor in
other countries, but we know it's bull****. Our church has a mission in Haiti, a land full of poor,
and converting folks is the last thing on the minds of the missionaries. Saving lives keeps them
busy enough.

However, my earlier comments about the Pope and birth control remain. Until he does something which
allows for restraint in the making of babies, I won't be hanging on every word he says about the
poor.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


conversation cut for brevity



So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"


I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell

of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on

the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do

understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree

with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe

the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,

and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a

negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and

saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the

recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are

part of the Protestant sects.



Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and

rules onto others who believe differently.





--

Religion: together we can find the cure.

He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory.
It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though.

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:40:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


conversation cut for brevity



So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"


I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell

of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on

the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do

understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree

with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe

the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,

and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a

negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and

saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the

recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are

part of the Protestant sects.



Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and

rules onto others who believe differently.





--

Religion: together we can find the cure.

He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory.
It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though.

Can't resist..."Krause and his trashy left-wing cohorts here are trying to see who they can
provoke...".

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:40:04 -0800 (PST), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:48:51 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


conversation cut for brevity



So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"


I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell

of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on

the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do

understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree

with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe

the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,

and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a

negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and

saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the

recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are

part of the Protestant sects.



Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and

rules onto others who believe differently.





--

Religion: together we can find the cure.

He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory.
It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though.

Krause and his trashy left-wing cohorts here are trying to see who they can provoke. When you read
or respond to his defecations in here, you're just encouraging him.

Now, can we stop this little game of yours?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 12/14/2013 2:40 AM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
Religion only "bothers" me when *it* attempts to push *its* beliefs and

rules onto others who believe differently.





--

Religion: together we can find the cure.
He asked you if you were a Papist. A final yes or no answer would have been satisfactory.
It is noted that you still didn't answer his question, though.


I'd be happy if Harry could define *it*
--
Americans deserve better.

On 12/14/2013 8:10 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:45 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:13:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

When the Pope starts teaching the practice of birth control to reduce the number of starving
children, I may reconsider my attitude towards the Catholic Church. Until then, the Pope and the
Church themselves are immense contributors to the number of starving children in this world.

===

Right on the money with that.

It's the main reason I left the Church.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Do you really think the Catholic church is responsible for unwanted baby
bumps in large numbers. The one track minds of little heads that are in
charge when the seeds are planted are more interested in ****ing than
what the Pope teaches, or what the consequences might be. Primal
instincts rule.

--
Americans deserve better.