....the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians:

“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that
economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in
bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This
opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude
and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in
the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile,
the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes
others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization
of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end
up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor,
weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as
though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The
culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers
us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives
stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move
us.”
~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium,
November 2013


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Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:41:52 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians:



I'm not ****ed off. Evidently I'm not a 'conservative Christian"

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:41:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians:

“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that
economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in
bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This
opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude
and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in
the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile,
the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes
others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization
of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end
up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor,
weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as
though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The
culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers
us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives
stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move
us.”
~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium,
November 2013

Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity
in doing so.

The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real'
poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl.com/l7t77xd or
http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set:

http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,
cell phones, etc.?

You're ****ing blind, Krause.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.

On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.


Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a
few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than
the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States
have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than
having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't
"papists."

We really need to find a cure for "religion."



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Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 12/12/2013 12:11 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps,
welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.


Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a
few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than
the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States
have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than
having to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't
"papists."

We really need to find a cure for "religion."



What we really need is a cure for the insanity that elected the current
crop of idiots in DC

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Americans deserve better.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps,
welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.


Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a
few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the
United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have
to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having
to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler
society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have
no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists."

We really need to find a cure for "religion."




How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that
dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with
an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take
care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the
women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably
do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ,
cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost
the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot
more for the poor, than any group of atheists!

On 12/12/13, 1:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:

snip...

*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps,
welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?

snip...

John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??
Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.


Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a
few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than the
United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States have
to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having
to live in a cardboard box. When the Pope calls out for a kinder, gentler
society, they think he is excluding the United States, or that they have
no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't "papists."

We really need to find a cure for "religion."




How come those kids living in shelters and on welfare have parents that
dropped out of school, to lazy to get up in the morning and go compete with
an illegal that seems to be able to get a job, etc. maybe we ought to take
care of the kid, and cut the nuts off the dad, and tie the tubes of the
women after a couple kids while on welfare and unmarried. Would probably
do more for society than the War on Poverty that has been going since LBJ,
cost more than Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan together, and we have lost
the WOP. What is your cure for poverty? And I see churches doing a lot
more for the poor, than any group of atheists!



Congrats, Bilious, on yet another wonderful right-wing rant, this time
one that ignores the plight of the kids so you can go after their
parents. How very conservatrasher of you. After all, the kids created
their problem by being born, right?




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Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



snip...



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



snip...



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.

On 12/12/13, 6:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



snip...



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



snip...



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.



I pay attention to the Pope because he is the spiritual leader of a hell
of a lot of people and what he says and does has significant impact on
the world. I am not and never have been a Roman Catholic, but I do
understand and appreciate the influence of that church, whether I agree
with what it posits...or not. There are many areas in which I believe
the Catholic Church has had and continues to have a positive influence,
and there are some in which I think it has and continues to have a
negative influence. I admire much of what the current Pope is doing and
saying to improve the plight of the poor and those who have been the
recipients of wrath from some of those self-described Christians who are
part of the Protestant sects.

Religion only "bothers" me when it attempts to push its beliefs and
rules onto others who believe differently.


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Religion: together we can find the cure.