On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:19:13 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:11:13 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/12/13, 11:44 AM, True North wrote:

On Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:48:30 UTC-4, John H. wrote:



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*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,



cell phones, etc.?



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John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!





Y'all give free cellphones to the poor??

Very generous of you, Johnny Mop.





Like so many conservatives who really don't give a ****, Herring and a

few others here think "poor" people only live in countries other than

the United States. It's ok with them if little kids in the United States

have to live in crowded shelters. After all, they say, it's better than having to live in a
cardboard box.

Oh it is! But then again, maybe they should move in with you so they could experience what they've been missing. Have you invited to your place yet?



When the Pope calls out for a kinder,
gentler society, they think he is excluding the United States,


Really? And which 'society' is that?

or that
they have no need to pay attention because, after all, they aren't

"papists."


So, YOU pay attention to the Pope because you ARE a "Papist?"



We really need to find a cure for "religion."


You'd think so, probably because it bothers you. Robert Owen, Karl Marx and Lenin, and Chairman Mao, thought the same thing of course, to enhance 'societies' utopia.

They tried it and it didn't work.

I think the Pope has great intentions. Helping the poor is always a noble gesture, unless the help
tends to keep them poor and dependant, which it does in this country. The problem with giving money
to the poorest of countries is that the money goes into the hands of the 'leaders' and never gets to
the poor. That's where charities and missionaries come in.

FOAESAD can say all he wants about missionaries just trying to force their religion on the poor in
other countries, but we know it's bull****. Our church has a mission in Haiti, a land full of poor,
and converting folks is the last thing on the minds of the missionaries. Saving lives keeps them
busy enough.

However, my earlier comments about the Pope and birth control remain. Until he does something which
allows for restraint in the making of babies, I won't be hanging on every word he says about the
poor.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:48:30 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity

in doing so.



The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real'

poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl.com/l7t77xd or

http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set:



http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?





John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:48:30 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:41:52 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



...the Pope is ****ing off conservative christians:



�Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that

economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in

bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This

opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude

and na�ve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in

the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile,

the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes

others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization

of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end

up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor,

weeping for other people�s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as

though all this were someone else�s responsibility and not our own. The

culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers

us something new to purchase; and in the meantime all those lives

stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move

us.�

~Pope Francis, attacking trickle-down economics, Evangelii Gaudium,

November 2013



Harry, you strive hard to pull the chains of conservatives, but simply display an arrogant stupidity

in doing so.



The Pope is attempting to get 'countries' to change their attitudes toward the poor - the 'real'

poor. *This* is poor, Harry: http://tinyurl.com/kq3jes6 or http://tinyurl..com/l7t77xd or

http://tinyurl.com/ku8sbul or http://tinyurl.com/mkwmz8q or a whole set:



http://tinyurl.com/mh3y48t



*Those* are the poor. How many of those are getting food stamps, welfare checks, free health care,

cell phones, etc.?





John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

John those pics are disturbing indeed. Compared to those mis-fortunate souls, our countries 'poor' are wealthy! Some people can't understand that.But the same that can't understand the rationality are thee ones who gripe and don't lift a finger to help those in need.