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On 12/3/2013 10:54 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:18:57 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:05:59 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 19:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North
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On Monday, 2 December 2013 20:18:09 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:













Isn't it nice that Uncle Sam keeps you in the lap of luxury with
taxpayer dollars.







Isn't it nice the taxpayers keep you in luxury?





No one keeps me in luxury..I worked for a living.



Good Morning, lil' Squirt!!



What did you do for your government? In what type 'work' were you
engaged? I'll bet your job was to

be as caustic and derogatory as possible.



How're those gonads coming? You've not displayed any by answering
questions on the topics you

brought up.



Honestly, sitting in your little house talking down to others who are
hundreds of miles away is not

'courageous'.



Bye, Squirt.



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the service,
at least in the years I was "in".


Harry has to fit his mold. I commented on his post, but only on the pertinent part. I expect the
Army was just as concerned with racism as the Navy.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


I thought racist allegations was last year's liberal schtick.

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On 12/3/2013 10:49 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:15:07 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:05:59 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 19:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:



On Monday, 2 December 2013 20:18:09 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:



Isn't it nice that Uncle Sam keeps you in the lap of luxury with taxpayer dollars.



Isn't it nice the taxpayers keep you in luxury?



No one keeps me in luxury..I worked for a living.



Good Morning, lil' Squirt!!



What did you do for your government? In what type 'work' were you engaged? I'll bet your job was to

be as caustic and derogatory as possible.



How're those gonads coming? You've not displayed any by answering questions on the topics you

brought up.



Honestly, sitting in your little house talking down to others who are hundreds of miles away is not

'courageous'.



Bye, Squirt.



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!


You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


I'll be the first to admit that I wasn't as 'devoted' to the Army as I could have been. I did have a
lot of fun while a soldier though!

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


All work and no play makes Johnny a dull boy. ;-)

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On 12/3/2013 10:39 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:32:19 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:05:59 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 19:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:



On Monday, 2 December 2013 20:18:09 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:



Isn't it nice that Uncle Sam keeps you in the lap of luxury with taxpayer dollars.


Isn't it nice the taxpayers keep you in luxury?


No one keeps me in luxury..I worked for a living.


Good Morning, lil' Squirt!!


What did you do for your government? In what type 'work' were you engaged? I'll bet your job was to

be as caustic and derogatory as possible.


How're those gonads coming? You've not displayed any by answering questions on the topics you

brought up.



Honestly, sitting in your little house talking down to others who are hundreds of miles away is not

'courageous'.



Bye, Squirt.



John H. -- Hope you're NOT having a great day!



You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.


Hi Squirt!

Remember saying this a couple days ago, "Maybe you'll follow my lead, Johnny and drop "the name
calling and childish insults". I responded with, "You got it. No more name calling and childish
insults. Agreed? Both of us, right? And you learn how to spell...right?"

And you responded with - nothing. So, are you ready to 'lead' again? You're the one that said it.
I'm ready to jump on the wagon with you - no more name calling and childish insults (caustic and
derogatory comments included).

Ready to go? Just say the word.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


Be mindfull of Donnie waving the brown finger. It has the essence of
Harry on it. ;-)

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On 12/3/2013 1:00 PM, Hank© wrote:

Be mindfull of Donnie waving the brown finger. It has the essence of
Harry on it. ;-)


ROTFLMAO!!! That is a classic!!!
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On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:




You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military career.
I don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.


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On 12/3/2013 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:




You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military career. I
don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.


That sounds about right. My division officer was a mustang Lt. He made
Lt.Cdr. and was immediately transferred. He was well liked and respected
by his peers and the enlisted. Things went south after he left.

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On 12/3/2013 2:17 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:




You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any
demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the
service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military career. I
don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.


That sounds about right. My division officer was a mustang Lt. He made
Lt.Cdr. and was immediately transferred. He was well liked and respected
by his peers and the enlisted. Things went south after he left.


There were many Navy LDOs in the electronics fields mainly because the
enlisted ET schools that they graduated from were so good. For purposes
of the Navy they made better division officers than a university grad
with a electronics related degree who then joined and received a
commission in the Navy.
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On 12/3/13, 3:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 2:17 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:



You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got
promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any
demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the
service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military career. I
don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.


That sounds about right. My division officer was a mustang Lt. He made
Lt.Cdr. and was immediately transferred. He was well liked and respected
by his peers and the enlisted. Things went south after he left.


There were many Navy LDOs in the electronics fields mainly because the
enlisted ET schools that they graduated from were so good. For purposes
of the Navy they made better division officers than a university grad
with a electronics related degree who then joined and received a
commission in the Navy.



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shoes and march in them.


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On 12/3/2013 4:14 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 3:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 2:17 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:



You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got
promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any
demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the
service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military
career. I
don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.

That sounds about right. My division officer was a mustang Lt. He made
Lt.Cdr. and was immediately transferred. He was well liked and respected
by his peers and the enlisted. Things went south after he left.


There were many Navy LDOs in the electronics fields mainly because the
enlisted ET schools that they graduated from were so good. For purposes
of the Navy they made better division officers than a university grad
with a electronics related degree who then joined and received a
commission in the Navy.




More malleable, less likely to question authority, know how to spitshine
shoes and march in them.



Not quite. Little "marching" is done in the Navy. The ETs aboard ship
pretty much had it made and called their own shots most of the time.
Usually nobody, including the CO and XO knew what the heck they did or
how they did it.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 12/3/13, 3:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 2:17 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 1:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 12:45 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 12/3/13, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:



You are an amusing old fart, Johnny.
You are the self assigned leader of talking down to others.
I'd bet it was due to your Lt Colonel rank in the army. You still
expect everyone to salute you.
Well, I will.. but only with one finger.



Half the lieutenant colonels in the Army who stayed in got
promoted to
full colonel. Herring stayed in but got passed over for promotion,
probably for insulting one too many "soldier of color."


Doubtful. I don't know about the Army but in the Navy any
demonstration
of overt racism would be cause for immediate dismissal from the
service,
at least in the years I was "in".


You know why Harry is so ignorant of military policy, don't you?



My understanding is that John was an Army equivalent of a "Mustanger"
meaning he was enlisted, continued school, went to OCS and was
commissioned. That could have occurred well into his military career. I
don't know.

I know that the Navy had several programs whereby an enlisted person
could continue school leading to a commission. Often they became
"Limited Duty Officers" or "LDOs". An LDO was a specialist in a
particular field like electronics or whatever and was not a "Line"
officer meaning they were not eligible for command. Most LDOs in the
Navy never advanced beyond the rank of Lt. Commander.

That sounds about right. My division officer was a mustang Lt. He made
Lt.Cdr. and was immediately transferred. He was well liked and respected
by his peers and the enlisted. Things went south after he left.


There were many Navy LDOs in the electronics fields mainly because the
enlisted ET schools that they graduated from were so good. For purposes
of the Navy they made better division officers than a university grad
with a electronics related degree who then joined and received a
commission in the Navy.



More malleable, less likely to question authority, know how to spitshine
shoes and march in them.



They had actually worked for a living, and knew how to not abuse the
workers. Plus they had a better knowledge of how to fix electronic.
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