In article , says...

On 11/23/13, 8:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2013 8:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/23/13, 8:13 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:40:45 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/23/13, 7:37 PM, Tim wrote:

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:23:41 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:

On 11/23/13, 7:13 PM, Tim wrote:



On Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:08:56 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:



On 11/23/13, 7:04 PM, Tim wrote:







On Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:01:04 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:







On 11/23/13, 5:54 PM, Tim wrote:















On Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:52:16 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:















On 11/23/13, 3:40 PM, Tim wrote:































So is Jessie and Al.































































































? Neither of them are right-wingers.































They're Baptists. you're article was about 'Baptists"















































My article was about a right-winger religious nutjob who
happens to be















baptist. Notice the subject line: Why right-wing religion is
doomed...















I noticed it, and you made it 'right-wing' other wise it's about
Baptists























Substitute whatever Christian right sect you like that wants to
control







its followers *and society in general* .







The why didn't you do that, Harry?















The headline did that. The article that followed simply paid it
off. Are



you trying to say that it wouldn't be easy to find other Christian
right



sects and religiously oriented groups that use nonsense and "the
bible"



to try to control their followers and the general public?







Hmm. How about that Catholic group in your state, America Needs
Fatima,



part of the right-wing American Society for the Defense of Tradition,



Family, and Property. It is linking the tornadoes that hit Illinois
last



weekend to the stateï¿?s recent approval of a marriage equality
bill. God



sent tornadoes to Illinois to punish the state for passing a marriage



equality bill?







What sect(s) comprise the Family Research Council? Now there is an



organization of bat****-crazy, controlling religious nutcases.



What about them, Harry. You continually post that they mean nothing
to you, yet on the other hand, you constantly post of them for your
criticism.





They're a force for evil, and are among the religious groups that work

to push their backwards beliefs onto society as a whole.



How about Ken Copeland, who recently said on a Veteransï¿? Day
broadcast, ...


What about him? Does he really bother you? or do you just want
somebody to kick?


Yes, hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes like Copeland bother me
because of what they spread.



The resentment and subtle activism you display makes you as guilty as
the "hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes" that you despise.

The bottom line is you have the right to ignore them, same as anyone
else who do not believe in their preachings. Conversely, those who
choose to believe have an equal right to do so.

Not much can be jammed down your throat if you keep your mouth shut.





Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.

If this woamn has medical needs then she can go to an emergency room and get seen by a
doctor. Why must women only receive medical services at abortion mills? Are women not good
enough to receive meidical services at the same place males receive medical services.

On 11/24/2013 8:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 8:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


The resentment and subtle activism you display makes you as guilty as
the "hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes" that you despise.

The bottom line is you have the right to ignore them, same as anyone
else who do not believe in their preachings. Conversely, those who
choose to believe have an equal right to do so.

Not much can be jammed down your throat if you keep your mouth shut.





Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.


Why are you concerned with who is elected in Texas and the beliefs of
those who elected them? You live in Maryland, last I knew.


1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer. Texas sends legislators to
Washington, D.C., and some of those legislators try to infect the rest
of their country with their sicknesses.

2. The women of Texas are being oppressed by their ignorant lawmakers.
Texas is still part of the United States, for the moment, anyway, and I
think it behooves us to try to eliminate oppression in this country. I
was concerned with the blatant segregation and oppression of blacks in
the South during the middle part of the last century, and I am concerned
about the oppression of gays in this country now. Just because it is
Texas that is a septic tank of oppression doesn't mean it is ok for me
to ignore it because I live in a different state.


Uh huh. So, were do you draw the line? What reasoning says oppression
of women that occurs in other parts of the world are their business, not
ours. Same with gays. Following your logic and sense of modern day
manifest destiny, we should be active in eliminating lawmakers all over
the planet, including people like Putin who doesn't like gays.

On 11/24/13, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 8:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


The resentment and subtle activism you display makes you as guilty as
the "hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes" that you despise.

The bottom line is you have the right to ignore them, same as anyone
else who do not believe in their preachings. Conversely, those who
choose to believe have an equal right to do so.

Not much can be jammed down your throat if you keep your mouth shut.





Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state
decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.


Why are you concerned with who is elected in Texas and the beliefs of
those who elected them? You live in Maryland, last I knew.


1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer. Texas sends legislators to
Washington, D.C., and some of those legislators try to infect the rest
of their country with their sicknesses.

2. The women of Texas are being oppressed by their ignorant lawmakers.
Texas is still part of the United States, for the moment, anyway, and I
think it behooves us to try to eliminate oppression in this country. I
was concerned with the blatant segregation and oppression of blacks in
the South during the middle part of the last century, and I am concerned
about the oppression of gays in this country now. Just because it is
Texas that is a septic tank of oppression doesn't mean it is ok for me
to ignore it because I live in a different state.


Uh huh. So, were do you draw the line? What reasoning says oppression
of women that occurs in other parts of the world are their business, not
ours. Same with gays. Following your logic and sense of modern day
manifest destiny, we should be active in eliminating lawmakers all over
the planet, including people like Putin who doesn't like gays.





Many of us worked to try to eliminate racial oppression in this country.
Progress has been made, but there is much left to do. Gay rights have
been extended, but there is much left to do. Womens' rights have been
extended, but there is much left to do. Perhaps you are satisfied with a
country that makes no progress in terms of rights for the oppressed who
live here, but I am not. Following your logic, we'd still have slavery
in this country, eh?

I think we should put our own house in order and set an example for
other countries around the world. Sending troops around the world to
resolve oppression in other countries doesn't work too well.

Religious beliefs seem to be at the root of much of the oppression in
this country. "Scripture" was misused to perpetuate slavery, and it is
being used these days to oppress women, gays, and other groups.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:25:59 AM UTC-6,
1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer.

Marx said "Religion is the opiate of thee masses"

Harry, I think I know where you're coming from.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:25:59 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/24/13, 8:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


The resentment and subtle activism you display makes you as guilty as
the "hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes" that you despise.

The bottom line is you have the right to ignore them, same as anyone
else who do not believe in their preachings. Conversely, those who
choose to believe have an equal right to do so.

Not much can be jammed down your throat if you keep your mouth shut.





Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.


Why are you concerned with who is elected in Texas and the beliefs of
those who elected them? You live in Maryland, last I knew.


1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer. Texas sends legislators to
Washington, D.C., and some of those legislators try to infect the rest
of their country with their sicknesses.

2. The women of Texas are being oppressed by their ignorant lawmakers.
Texas is still part of the United States, for the moment, anyway, and I
think it behooves us to try to eliminate oppression in this country. I
was concerned with the blatant segregation and oppression of blacks in
the South during the middle part of the last century, and I am concerned
about the oppression of gays in this country now. Just because it is
Texas that is a septic tank of oppression doesn't mean it is ok for me
to ignore it because I live in a different state.

And both of you call Scotty paranoid.

Un-friggin'-real.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:38:32 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 08:26:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 11/23/13, 8:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.

If this woamn has medical needs then she can go to an emergency room and get seen by a
doctor. Why must women only receive medical services at abortion mills? Are women not good
enough to receive meidical services at the same place males receive medical services.

This is an interesting question!

Texas lawmakers are writing laws specifically targeting the legality
of what healthcare women may receive anywhere, whether it is a clinic
or a hospital. Do you know of any laws written that specifically
target the legality of healthcare in men?
John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Spoof.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On Saturday, November 23, 2013 6:40:45 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


What about them, Harry. You continually post that they mean nothing to you, yet on the other hand, you constantly post of them for your criticism.





They're a force for evil,

It'd be interesting to know what your definition of 'evil' is.

On 11/24/2013 8:45 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 8:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:25 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/24/13, 8:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/24/2013 8:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


The resentment and subtle activism you display makes you as
guilty as
the "hate-filled, ignorant religious assholes" that you despise.

The bottom line is you have the right to ignore them, same as anyone
else who do not believe in their preachings. Conversely, those who
choose to believe have an equal right to do so.

Not much can be jammed down your throat if you keep your mouth shut.





Oh, really? Try explaining that to a woman in Texas denied access to
women's health resources because the assholes who run that state
decided
allowing that access would be in violation of their religious beliefs.


Why are you concerned with who is elected in Texas and the beliefs of
those who elected them? You live in Maryland, last I knew.


1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer. Texas sends legislators to
Washington, D.C., and some of those legislators try to infect the rest
of their country with their sicknesses.

2. The women of Texas are being oppressed by their ignorant lawmakers.
Texas is still part of the United States, for the moment, anyway, and I
think it behooves us to try to eliminate oppression in this country. I
was concerned with the blatant segregation and oppression of blacks in
the South during the middle part of the last century, and I am concerned
about the oppression of gays in this country now. Just because it is
Texas that is a septic tank of oppression doesn't mean it is ok for me
to ignore it because I live in a different state.


Uh huh. So, were do you draw the line? What reasoning says oppression
of women that occurs in other parts of the world are their business, not
ours. Same with gays. Following your logic and sense of modern day
manifest destiny, we should be active in eliminating lawmakers all over
the planet, including people like Putin who doesn't like gays.





Many of us worked to try to eliminate racial oppression in this country.
Progress has been made, but there is much left to do. Gay rights have
been extended, but there is much left to do. Womens' rights have been
extended, but there is much left to do. Perhaps you are satisfied with a
country that makes no progress in terms of rights for the oppressed who
live here, but I am not. Following your logic, we'd still have slavery
in this country, eh?

I think we should put our own house in order and set an example for
other countries around the world. Sending troops around the world to
resolve oppression in other countries doesn't work too well.

Religious beliefs seem to be at the root of much of the oppression in
this country. "Scripture" was misused to perpetuate slavery, and it is
being used these days to oppress women, gays, and other groups.



I think you know I fundamentally agree with you. The only thing I really
have a problem with is the expanding dominance of federal mandates over
state's rights. I disagree with your belief that the concept of state's
rights is obsolete and should be abandoned in favor of total, uniform
federal laws. Changes in thinking occurs slowly and it will take time
for some parts of the country to adapt to more "modern" thinking.

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:40:02 -0600, Califbill wrote:

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/23/13, 4:58 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:44:35 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/opzq7am
--

What a crock of crap from the American Taliban.

Women who believe that want to be that way.

You mean, they are forced to like that sort of crap treatment at the pain of death.




Muslim!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Ukraine.html

In the minds of FOAD, Don, et al, that's OK. Muslims can treat their women any way they desire - to
include killing them.

It would be wrong if a Christian attempted to stop an abortion in the 26th week of pregnancy,
however.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 11/24/13, 8:48 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:25:59 AM UTC-6,
1. Religious ignorance spreads like cancer.

Marx said "Religion is the opiate of thee masses"

Harry, I think I know where you're coming from.


It ain't from Marx, although I do understand that misquote in context.
Marx wrote that the real purpose of religion was to create a fantasy
world for the impoverished. The realities of life for the poor make it
extremely difficult for them to be comfortable, so religious belief
tells them they will find comfort and happiness in "the next life."
Religion sugarcoats or serves as an opiate for the poor.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.