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On 11/22/13, 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:35:29 -0500, BAR wrote:

Your screed against conservatives is falling apart. The facilities in and around where Deeds
lived have responded that they were never contacted about the availability of a pshyc bed.
Most said that they had beds available and would have accepted young Deeds if anyone has
called and asked.

I heard the same thing on CNN. Two hospitals within an hour's driver
said they had a bed for him.

We still have not heard anyone say the younger Deeds consented to
being admitted. If he didn't want to go, they couldn't make him go, no
matter how many beds were there. From what I see, most of these
admissions come after a criminal court proceeding ... in lieu of
prosecution or jail time. Think Trey Radel.
If the younger Deeds had survived the gunshot, he would have been
willing to check himself in for treatment. The fact that he had to be
involuntarily taken in for assessment implies he was not a willing
patient before the attack.

Unfortunately the democratic principle of letting no tragedy go to
waste is working here and they are milking this cow on all 4 tits

Since none of us have seen the call list of the facility that did the
preliminary intake on Deeds, we don't even know if the facility in
Charlottesville should have been called. I did get a chuckle out of the
claim that one of the facilities in a nearby town had someone competent
to do a psych eval of Deeds or anyone else on 24-hour call.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

BAR[_2_]

In article , says...

On 11/22/13, 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:35:29 -0500, BAR wrote:

Your screed against conservatives is falling apart. The facilities in and around where Deeds
lived have responded that they were never contacted about the availability of a pshyc bed.
Most said that they had beds available and would have accepted young Deeds if anyone has
called and asked.

I heard the same thing on CNN. Two hospitals within an hour's driver
said they had a bed for him.

We still have not heard anyone say the younger Deeds consented to
being admitted. If he didn't want to go, they couldn't make him go, no
matter how many beds were there. From what I see, most of these
admissions come after a criminal court proceeding ... in lieu of
prosecution or jail time. Think Trey Radel.
If the younger Deeds had survived the gunshot, he would have been
willing to check himself in for treatment. The fact that he had to be
involuntarily taken in for assessment implies he was not a willing
patient before the attack.

Unfortunately the democratic principle of letting no tragedy go to
waste is working here and they are milking this cow on all 4 tits

Since none of us have seen the call list of the facility that did the
preliminary intake on Deeds, we don't even know if the facility in
Charlottesville should have been called. I did get a chuckle out of the
claim that one of the facilities in a nearby town had someone competent
to do a psych eval of Deeds or anyone else on 24-hour call.

You immediately went into your screed about how Virgina and Gov McDonald, mostly Gov
McDonald, failed miseraby with respect to mental health care in Virginia. Your words ring
hollow when placed against the facts and that beds were available, if only they had been
contacted. Any complicity in this matter by Virgina or Gov McDonals is just you using Rahm
Emanuel's don't let any tradgey go to west method of operation to use your broad brush.

The elder Deeds was attacked by his son with a knife, the son is dead from from a gunshot
wound that may or may not have been fired from a gun in the hands of the father. The story
being pushed that the son killed himself with a gun after the father who was bloody and in
very bad shape escaped the house is just that a stroy. It will be interesting to see the
elder Deeds facial expression if and when he is asked directly about him pulling the trigger
of the pistol that killed his son. My money is on the elder Deeds shooting the sone to
prevent the son from killing him.

F.O.A.D.

On 11/22/13, 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:55:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/22/13, 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:35:29 -0500, BAR wrote:

Your screed against conservatives is falling apart. The facilities in and around where Deeds
lived have responded that they were never contacted about the availability of a pshyc bed.
Most said that they had beds available and would have accepted young Deeds if anyone has
called and asked.

I heard the same thing on CNN. Two hospitals within an hour's driver
said they had a bed for him.

We still have not heard anyone say the younger Deeds consented to
being admitted. If he didn't want to go, they couldn't make him go, no
matter how many beds were there. From what I see, most of these
admissions come after a criminal court proceeding ... in lieu of
prosecution or jail time. Think Trey Radel.
If the younger Deeds had survived the gunshot, he would have been
willing to check himself in for treatment. The fact that he had to be
involuntarily taken in for assessment implies he was not a willing
patient before the attack.

Unfortunately the democratic principle of letting no tragedy go to
waste is working here and they are milking this cow on all 4 tits

Since none of us have seen the call list of the facility that did the
preliminary intake on Deeds, we don't even know if the facility in
Charlottesville should have been called. I did get a chuckle out of the
claim that one of the facilities in a nearby town had someone competent
to do a psych eval of Deeds or anyone else on 24-hour call.

Maybe that is a problem with living out in the sticks.
The fact remains that 2 hospitals within an hour's drive, did say they
had a bed. Nobody has said the younger Deeds was willing to go.
Without due process, they couldn't make him. Even then, it is usually
jail or treatment.

Charlottesville is closer to two hours away. I think the other hospital
was in Staunton. Certainly the UVA hospital in Charlottesville would
have been a good choice. I'm not sure I'd go to a hospital in Staunton
for more than a paper cut.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

BAR[_2_]

In article , says...

On 11/22/13, 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:55:47 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/22/13, 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:35:29 -0500, BAR wrote:

Your screed against conservatives is falling apart. The facilities in and around where Deeds
lived have responded that they were never contacted about the availability of a pshyc bed.
Most said that they had beds available and would have accepted young Deeds if anyone has
called and asked.

I heard the same thing on CNN. Two hospitals within an hour's driver
said they had a bed for him.

We still have not heard anyone say the younger Deeds consented to
being admitted. If he didn't want to go, they couldn't make him go, no
matter how many beds were there. From what I see, most of these
admissions come after a criminal court proceeding ... in lieu of
prosecution or jail time. Think Trey Radel.
If the younger Deeds had survived the gunshot, he would have been
willing to check himself in for treatment. The fact that he had to be
involuntarily taken in for assessment implies he was not a willing
patient before the attack.

Unfortunately the democratic principle of letting no tragedy go to
waste is working here and they are milking this cow on all 4 tits

Since none of us have seen the call list of the facility that did the
preliminary intake on Deeds, we don't even know if the facility in
Charlottesville should have been called. I did get a chuckle out of the
claim that one of the facilities in a nearby town had someone competent
to do a psych eval of Deeds or anyone else on 24-hour call.

Maybe that is a problem with living out in the sticks.
The fact remains that 2 hospitals within an hour's drive, did say they
had a bed. Nobody has said the younger Deeds was willing to go.
Without due process, they couldn't make him. Even then, it is usually
jail or treatment.

Charlottesville is closer to two hours away. I think the other hospital
was in Staunton. Certainly the UVA hospital in Charlottesville would
have been a good choice. I'm not sure I'd go to a hospital in Staunton
for more than a paper cut.

The issue is not how far or what facility was better the issue is that these instituitons
were not contacted and they should have been on the list to contact.

When my wife went into pre-term labor they called all level 3 NICU's in the area, MD and VA,
and she was going to be sent to the first one that responded that they had a NICU bed
available.

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