On 11/19/13, 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:32:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but
was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide
area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the
Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.

Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story?


No. But his later comments didn't reference that.

"Crooper released a statement late Tuesday which did not confirm what
he told the Times-Dispatch about Deeds' exam or a lack of available
beds, but described the process for holding someone under an emergency
custody order (ECO)":

That makes it sound like the son checked himself out


It doesn't sound that way at all. What it sounds like is that the later
statement simply didn't reference the earlier statement.

Would it be a surprise to you to learn that a bed in a psych facility
wouldn't be immediately available in that part of rural Virginia? They
'coptered the dad to Charlottesville, pretty much a two hour car drive
away because there wasn't a hospital near where the family lived that
was capable of handling the case. I wonder if that part of Virginia has
much more than a couple of crappy facilities for treating substance
abusers.

Additionally, as I pointed out in another post, Governor McDonnell and
the Virginia legislature made drastic cuts to the state's budget for
psychiatric hospital beds, and those cuts may well have impacted what
might have been available in a private psych hospital or at least a
general hospital that was equipped to handle psych patients.

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On 11/19/13, 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:32:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but
was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide
area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the
Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.

Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story?


No. But his later comments didn't reference that.

"Crooper released a statement late Tuesday which did not confirm what
he told the Times-Dispatch about Deeds' exam or a lack of available
beds, but described the process for holding someone under an emergency
custody order (ECO)":

That makes it sound like the son checked himself out


It doesn't sound that way at all. What it sounds like is that the later
statement simply didn't reference the earlier statement.

Would it be a surprise to you to learn that a bed in a psych facility
wouldn't be immediately available in that part of rural Virginia? They
'coptered the dad to Charlottesville, pretty much a two hour car drive
away because there wasn't a hospital near where the family lived that
was capable of handling the case. I wonder if that part of Virginia has
much more than a couple of crappy facilities for treating substance
abusers.

Additionally, as I pointed out in another post, Governor McDonnell and
the Virginia legislature made drastic cuts to the state's budget for
psychiatric hospital beds, and those cuts may well have impacted what
might have been available in a private psych hospital or at least a
general hospital that was equipped to handle psych patients.

Why is it that the facts never support your political spin?

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...mental-health-
beds-found/article_41a00cb2-5197-11e3-81be-001a4bcf6878.html

While Cropper would not say which hospitals officials called in Deeds? case, he rattled off a
half-dozen facilities board members generally try in cases like his. Two hospitals on the
list ? the UVa Medical Center and Rockingham Memorial Hospital in Harrisonburg ? said they
had available psychiatric beds Monday. An official at a third hospital, Augusta Health in
Fishersville, said no beds were available.

On 11/20/13, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:43:54 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:32:30 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:14:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 8:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

CNN reports:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reported Tuesday that he had been given a
mental health evaluation under an emergency custody order Monday, but
was released because no psychiatric bed could be located across a wide
area of western Virginia, Dennis Cropper, executive director of the
Rockbridge Area Community Services Board, told the newspaper.

Didn't you also post that Cropper was softening on that story?


No. But his later comments didn't reference that.

"Crooper released a statement late Tuesday which did not confirm what
he told the Times-Dispatch about Deeds' exam or a lack of available
beds, but described the process for holding someone under an emergency
custody order (ECO)":

That makes it sound like the son checked himself out


It doesn't sound that way at all. What it sounds like is that the later
statement simply didn't reference the earlier statement.

Would it be a surprise to you to learn that a bed in a psych facility
wouldn't be immediately available in that part of rural Virginia? They
'coptered the dad to Charlottesville, pretty much a two hour car drive
away because there wasn't a hospital near where the family lived that
was capable of handling the case. I wonder if that part of Virginia has
much more than a couple of crappy facilities for treating substance
abusers.

Additionally, as I pointed out in another post, Governor McDonnell and
the Virginia legislature made drastic cuts to the state's budget for
psychiatric hospital beds, and those cuts may well have impacted what
might have been available in a private psych hospital or at least a
general hospital that was equipped to handle psych

If this guy really wanted treatment, they could have driven him to
Charlottesville, Richmond or the DC area..




"We" don't know the dead guy's mental health history or his family
dynamics or what was coursing through his mind before or during the
attack. Life isn't as black or white as you constantly try to paint it.


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Religion: together we can find the cure.