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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:31:43 -0600, Califbill wrote:
John H wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:41:16 -0600, Califbill wrote: John H wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:00:12 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:57:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/13/2013 7:44 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 11/13/13, 7:38 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/13/2013 7:18 AM, John H wrote: The idea that a cop could search, warrantless, your home and this would be acceptable is unfathomable. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! I agree that a search of your home without a warrant showing probable cause is unfathomable. The sneaky thing about this selectman's proposal is that the authorization for the cops to search is tied to your permit to own firearms. In other words, you don't agree .. you can't legally own a firearm. To me, his idea is that in order to qualify for a gun permit you must give the police permission to enter and search your home ahead of time. If there is a local law requiring guns to be locked up safely, how is that law to be enforced? Here's an idea: If you have a gun and it is supposed to be locked and a kid gets his hands on it and shoots himself or someone else, *you* go to prison. Or, if someone steals a firearm and you don't report it right away, you go to prison. Those are already distinct possibilities. You can be charged for negligence and for not storing the firearms in the prescribed manner by law. This will **** off the Tea Party types here, but I would not object to an inspection of my firearm storage. If a cop knocked on the door right now and asked if I voluntarily agreed to him coming in and checking how my guns are stored, I'd say, "Come on in". I am not sure I would trust just any cop who knocked on my door When I got my original machine gun stamp I did have an undersheriff (2d in command for Lee County) make an appointment to interview my wife and I and look at my gun safe. That I can understand. Personally, I think retired Army officers should be able to mount a Ma Deuce on their hoods just to prevent assholish driving. I suppose cops should be able to monitor the installation and storage of same. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Not the officers. But the grunts are more familiar with weapons and should have the right before some ossifer. How about OCS graduates who've seen the best of both worlds. I could buy that! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! Still an officer. Damn! Honestly, they don't pour out whatever knowledge you've gained as an enlisted when you go to OCS. ****, I was an SP5. I knew my artillery stuff pretty good! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Speaking of guns and horses
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, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 695555588406074347.336773bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 579345792406067882.642720bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article 14377863406053108.919177bmckeenospam- , says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:11:25 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? === Yes, big difference, unless your stable is also your dwelling. Inspecting the interior of a home except at the time of construction or renovation generally requires a search warrant and probable cause, and that's the way it should stay unless you want to roll the clock back to colonial times and British rule. It's another example of northeastern nanny state mentality run amok. Yeah, what he said. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! It's the GOP that doesn't want progress..... Progress? Maybe all progress is not good. Illegal search was very important to the Founders of this country. So was witch hunting. I don not know of any of the founders that were involved in witch hunting. Maybe you can give a link. Wait, are you trying to say that the founding fathers were personally involved in everything that they subscribed to? Do you not think the Pilgrims can be labeled as "founding fathers"? Have you never heard of the Salem Witch trials? The Pilgrims were not the founding fathers. And you realize the Pilgrims at Plymouth, MA were two different groups that did not like each other? And the Salem Witch Trials were more, a way too steal someone else's property. Who said they weren't "founding fathers"? You are exercising your dumb a lot on this thread. Well, no, I'm not. YOU are though. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:48:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:48:58 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:41:22 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: The Pilgrims weren't the "Founding Fathers". They were "Flounder Fathers". Sure they were founding fathers. What would make you think they weren't? Is there some written classification regarding what is considered founding fathers, or who gets to make that judgment? === The pilgrims were here almost 150 years before the declaration of independence, revolutionary war and the writing/ratification of the constitution. The people behind those actions are without doubt the founding fathers. Where is this definition of "founding fathers"? === I just gave it to you. Try to pay attention in class. Oh, so YOU get to define the phrase, eh? The pilgrims definitely had an impact on the founding of our county. They settled the area first and established it as viable for western civilization. They created covenants and laws and developed the area, and usually made inroads with the local native population. === I would argue that although the pilgrims were among the first settlers they had only a small impact on the country as we know it. There were other groups right behind the pilgrims who were not religious zealots and had much more pragmatic reasons for settling the country. Virginia with its House of Burgesses certainly had much more influence on our modern governmental institutions. |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:34:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:48:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:48:58 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:41:22 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: The Pilgrims weren't the "Founding Fathers". They were "Flounder Fathers". Sure they were founding fathers. What would make you think they weren't? Is there some written classification regarding what is considered founding fathers, or who gets to make that judgment? === The pilgrims were here almost 150 years before the declaration of independence, revolutionary war and the writing/ratification of the constitution. The people behind those actions are without doubt the founding fathers. Where is this definition of "founding fathers"? === I just gave it to you. Try to pay attention in class. Oh, so YOU get to define the phrase, eh? The pilgrims definitely had an impact on the founding of our county. They settled the area first and established it as viable for western civilization. They created covenants and laws and developed the area, and usually made inroads with the local native population. === I would argue that although the pilgrims were among the first settlers they had only a small impact on the country as we know it. There were other groups right behind the pilgrims who were not religious zealots and had much more pragmatic reasons for settling the country. Virginia with its House of Burgesses certainly had much more influence on our modern governmental institutions. You surely won't get any argument out of Loogy with that statement. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 11/14/2013 1:02 PM, John H wrote:
Damn! Honestly, they don't pour out whatever knowledge you've gained as an enlisted when you go to OCS. ****, I was an SP5. I knew my artillery stuff pretty good! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! What were people like yourself who were enlisted and then earned a commission called in the Army? In the Navy it was "Mustanger" |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:15:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/14/2013 1:02 PM, John H wrote: Damn! Honestly, they don't pour out whatever knowledge you've gained as an enlisted when you go to OCS. ****, I was an SP5. I knew my artillery stuff pretty good! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! What were people like yourself who were enlisted and then earned a commission called in the Army? In the Navy it was "Mustanger" We had no special name that I know of. I guess about the closest would be 'passed over' when it came time for promotion to O-6! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:54:02 -0500, John H
wrote: You surely won't get any argument out of Loogy with that statement. === You've got to be kidding. :-) |
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On 11/14/2013 6:11 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:54:02 -0500, John H wrote: You surely won't get any argument out of Loogy with that statement. === You've got to be kidding. :-) LOL |
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