On 11/14/13, 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:01:03 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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Yup... Tried references, everything... Keep getting total deadbeats.
This time we are going to let an agency rent it out, or just sell it...

Too bad you don't know some outlaw bikers who could scare them away.

snerk

There is a guy around here who has signs on poles all over town saying
that if you have deadbeats you can't get to move, call him.
I am not sure if it is a lawyer or a thug.

Maybe one of PsychoSnotty's "full patch" buddies moved to your neck of
the woods.

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On 11/14/2013 10:20 AM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 14 November 2013 09:29:46 UTC-4, Hank© wrote:
On 11/13/2013 11:00 PM, True North wrote:

L'il Snot was quick enough to threaten to send a "full patch biker" after you, but lays down for a deadbeat who might cost him thousands of dollars.

What's with that?



Are you talking about our resident deadbeat?

Of course...your one and only BFF, Scott Ingersoll...who else, silly?


You're a funny little guy.
It's obvious to everyone but you that Harry is the deadbeat in question.

Haven't you read about all of his bankruptcies, foreclosures, and tax
evasion incidents?

Haven't you read about Scotty's unpaid taxes and unpaid healthcare
bills?

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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:58:30 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:


I guess you've never been the victim, I have after going to great
lengths, credit check, employment check, references, first last security
deposit... They pay three months worth, takes you a minimum of six
months to get them out AFTER you start proceedings, so they live for 8
months on three months rent, then move on.

It can go on longer than that but I am surprised it wouldn't pop on a
credit check.

I know, I don't know how they do it, but they do. These people were GOOD
at it! Even after employment and credit checks, I'm a pretty good judge
of character, and they seemed very sincere, etc. Then, just the way they
went about it in the next few months, you knew they were professionals
at it. I called the husband one day to tell him to pay or else, and he
cited the laws to me!! The laws tend to protect only the renter.

iBoaterer wrote:
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On 11/13/2013 7:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/13/2013 6:58 PM, Charlemagne wrote:
On 11/13/2013 6:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/13/2013 5:56 PM, Charlemagne wrote:



All of these scumbags come up with the first and last months rent..
Usually from an employer who has them under his thumb, then as soon as
they move in, the start playing games... It's bull**** that landlords
have to put up with it... Should be able to put the **** in the street,
especially when you have it in writing the tenant is intentionally
breaking the lease...



Sounds like you should consider selling the place and be done with it.



Yeah, looking more and more like that now... Tried to hold off till the
prices come back up some but not... the ****er is that we almost sold in
08 and would have doubled our money but we kept it so a "friend" could
move his family in as a favor to them... They were the first of four
that screwed us over so far....



Four in 5 years?



Yup... Tried references, everything... Keep getting total deadbeats.
This time we are going to let an agency rent it out, or just sell it...

There are people that are professional squatters! I know what you are
talking about. Had tenants that knew the laws very well, and used them
to their advantage.

Need a better court. Get with the local judges and work with them. At
Lake Tahoe, California side, takes 30 days or less to evict.

iBoaterer wrote:
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iBoaterer wrote:
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On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:44:41 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
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Same way a landlord pretty much insures his renters can make the payments.
First and last months rent and a security deposit. If the renter can come
up with that much money, he can normally be able to pay his rent.

Horse****.

Then why else would a landlord require that?

To try to recoup at least some of the loss.

They are vetting the renter and gathering a bit of insurance.

Exactly, but it certainly doesn't mean that because the renter came up
with the money for first, last and security that he's going to pay on
time each month.

It is one of the easiest ways to get someone who can pay. As to paying on
time, you make the penalty hurt for being late. That way they only do it
once. You charge them a small amount and they will be late a lot of the
time.

I guess you've never been the victim, I have after going to great
lengths, credit check, employment check, references, first last security
deposit... They pay three months worth, takes you a minimum of six
months to get them out AFTER you start proceedings, so they live for 8
months on three months rent, then move on.

I always thought that the landlord should charge them criminally under the
defrauding the innkeeper statutes.

Not to mention his delinquent credit card accounts.

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 11/13/2013 7:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/13/2013 6:58 PM, Charlemagne wrote:
On 11/13/2013 6:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/13/2013 5:56 PM, Charlemagne wrote:



All of these scumbags come up with the first and last months rent..
Usually from an employer who has them under his thumb, then as soon as
they move in, the start playing games... It's bull**** that landlords
have to put up with it... Should be able to put the **** in the street,
especially when you have it in writing the tenant is intentionally
breaking the lease...



Sounds like you should consider selling the place and be done with it.



Yeah, looking more and more like that now... Tried to hold off till the
prices come back up some but not... the ****er is that we almost sold in
08 and would have doubled our money but we kept it so a "friend" could
move his family in as a favor to them... They were the first of four
that screwed us over so far....



Four in 5 years?



Yup... Tried references, everything... Keep getting total deadbeats.
This time we are going to let an agency rent it out, or just sell it...

There are people that are professional squatters! I know what you are
talking about. Had tenants that knew the laws very well, and used them
to their advantage.

Need a better court. Get with the local judges and work with them. At
Lake Tahoe, California side, takes 30 days or less to evict.

Uh, we owned rental property in CA, and that is horse****. You must give
the tenant a minimum of 30 to vacate once notified for failure to pay
rent. The rub is, if they've even paid a PORTION, that changes. Once
they don't vacate, you must file with the court. Service can take easily
three months or more, and then they can simply avoid service by not
answering the door. In some counties you even have to go through a court
hearing before they'll serve. THEN the tenant is given an opportunity to
respond. The tenant has to file in five days, but once he responds,
another two months or so goes by until the court sets a court date. Then
when that finally happens, and the court finds in the landlords favor,
in another month or two, the tenant is served the notice to vacate. By
this time you are in it for 6 or 8 months.

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iBoaterer wrote:
In article 2059192535406073617.937751bmckeenospam-
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iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:44:41 PM UTC-5, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 1269338540406053481.559632bmckeenospam-

, says...


Same way a landlord pretty much insures his renters can make the payments.
First and last months rent and a security deposit. If the renter can come
up with that much money, he can normally be able to pay his rent.

Horse****.

Then why else would a landlord require that?

To try to recoup at least some of the loss.

They are vetting the renter and gathering a bit of insurance.

Exactly, but it certainly doesn't mean that because the renter came up
with the money for first, last and security that he's going to pay on
time each month.

It is one of the easiest ways to get someone who can pay. As to paying on
time, you make the penalty hurt for being late. That way they only do it
once. You charge them a small amount and they will be late a lot of the
time.

I guess you've never been the victim, I have after going to great
lengths, credit check, employment check, references, first last security
deposit... They pay three months worth, takes you a minimum of six
months to get them out AFTER you start proceedings, so they live for 8
months on three months rent, then move on.

I always thought that the landlord should charge them criminally under the
defrauding the innkeeper statutes.

Way back my uncle owned an apt. house in Florida, and he had trouble
with renters not paying. A friend of his in the realty business said
that because the apartments were one bedroom he could get a hotel
license. Sure as hell, he had the rate notice behind the door and
everything! He'd give people a week to come up with the money, if not
he'd call the cops. They tightened that law a few years later, but he
had sold it by then anyway.

On 11/14/2013 2:12 PM, True North wrote:
Not to mention his delinquent credit card accounts.

I hadn't heard about Harry's credit card problems. Do tell.

On 11/14/13, 4:34 PM, Charlemagne wrote:

Just for the record, I never threatened to send anybody to see harry...
I told a guy what harry called his daughter.. period. Just sayin' but we
can't expect don to tell the truth anyway... Remember, he's the one who
has said twice over the years he is coming to beat me up, and ran when
he had the chance.... so......


Your entire post immediately above is...entirely bull****. The cops came
to your house based upon specific threats you made. *They* took it
seriously.



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